PR G15 plugin?

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LithiumFox
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Re: PR G15 plugin?

Post by LithiumFox »

Raufbold wrote:Ouch...Why not get an aimbot then?

Serously, it is a game, so everyone should have the same technical preconditions to keep it fair. Your real life argument does not fit at all.
I'm sorry that instead of paying for food i like to buy shiny things for my computer.

I assume having 3 screens is unfair then. Or using a mouse with 6 different DPI settings so that i can adjust for my poor *** reflexes.

Oh i know, why don't i just cut off my left arm so that i can be fair to the one armed people out there who kick my ***. Oh right, THEY KICK MY ***. (Please read below, i mean no offense and explain this later.)

The way humans work is they use the tools given to them. Obviously, an Aimbot is considered cheating, but having a LCD screen that gives you some sort of information, like how I would like having a list of people in my squad so i can just look down and see who i'm talking to (cause i forget names a lot).

For instance, there are some very active members of the community who don't have use of an arm, or a hand. They are limited to one hand. They work around this by using computer tools that can help them with this "handicap", usually ending with the hilariousness of being better than most people that are completely capable of using both hands. Whether they use a trackball mouse, some foot pedals they use for a racing games (accelerator forward, brake backwards, clutch would be crouch... it's actually kinda nice cause you can slowly walk XD) they adjust for what they can do.

Now, one could use the excuse that an aimbot is just a tool to "help them play better", but sadly, these tools don't usually affect the SKILL of shooting a gun in PR. The G15 keyboard was meant to show important information to players.

Example: In PR you could show the following:

-Current commander
-Current squad members
-Squad member kits (via little icons :D )

-current amount of team tickets left.
-basic distance away from object (the 50m estimate, or a 100m estimate)
-basic GPS for "GPS enabled maps" (map codes, ex: A7, G5, M8, etc.)

The stuff i bolded is stuff i REALLY want.

Anyways, my point is, humans have always been using tools to better further their own and community interests. Something basic, like showing squad members, would be epic for those of us who spent the extra cash (which we worked for, don't even look at me i'm jobless, but i still managed to WORK to buy my stuff. :D No unemployment for me!)

Final point:

"We're right. You're wrong. I'm pulling a Gaz in this sentence. :P "*


*All offense intended.
** Not towards those who have one arm. D:

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Raufbold
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Re: PR G15 plugin?

Post by Raufbold »

LithiumFox wrote:I'm sorry that instead of paying for food i like to buy shiny things for my computer.

I assume having 3 screens is unfair then. Or using a mouse with 6 different DPI settings so that i can adjust for my poor *** reflexes.
If it comes to PR, you can have as many monitors as you want. Yes, a DPI switching mouse is somewhat unfair maybe, i haven't tried one yet. Both examples are more or less godgiven, like say...one arm.
Oh i know, why don't i just cut off my left arm so that i can be fair to the one armed people out there who kick my ***. Oh right, THEY KICK MY ***. (Please read below, i mean no offense and explain this later.)
Well, if they kick your ***, you definetely should try cut ting off your hand, maybe it helps! But maybe you just suck, even with 3 monitors and a dpi switching mouse :D
The way humans work is they use the tools given to them. Obviously, an Aimbot is considered cheating, but having a LCD screen that gives you some sort of information, like how I would like having a list of people in my squad so i can just look down and see who i'm talking to (cause i forget names a lot).
Humans also set a frame when it comes to sportive competition, in order to ensure comparability of performance. Taking your argument further, an aimbot is only a tool also, so is a wallhack or a health display on players and vehicles.
For instance, there are some very active members of the community who don't have use of an arm, or a hand. They are limited to one hand. They work around this by using computer tools that can help them with this "handicap", usually ending with the hilariousness of being better than most people that are completely capable of using both hands. Whether they use a trackball mouse, some foot pedals they use for a racing games (accelerator forward, brake backwards, clutch would be crouch... it's actually kinda nice cause you can slowly walk XD) they adjust for what they can do.
I am glad that they found a way participate. Now what is your point here?
Now, one could use the excuse that an aimbot is just a tool to "help them play better", but sadly, these tools don't usually affect the SKILL of shooting a gun in PR. The G15 keyboard was meant to show important information to players.

Example: In PR you could show the following:
.
.
.
-basic distance away from object (the 50m estimate, or a 100m estimate)
-basic GPS for "GPS enabled maps" (map codes, ex: A7, G5, M8, etc.)

The stuff i bolded is stuff i REALLY want.
So you want the PR team to support information on your keyboard they have deliberatly taken out of the game? I am fine with the other points, since i can access them without additional hardware gadgets. The aimbot is the exaggerated example, there are other "tools" in the shed which can give you an unfair advantage.
Anyways, my point is, humans have always been using tools to better further their own and community interests. Something basic, like showing squad members, would be epic for those of us who spent the extra cash (which we worked for, don't even look at me i'm jobless, but i still managed to WORK to buy my stuff. :D No unemployment for me!)
I wonder where the community interest is in giving people an edge that are willing to buy gadgets. Also, if the information is available for everyone, you can have whatever you want on your keyboard. As i stated before, if the information is accessible to everyone in game, i am fine with it.
Also, i am very proud that you worked for your stuff and hope you will have a new job soon to buy more stuff.
Final point:

"We're right. You're wrong. I'm pulling a Gaz in this sentence. :P "*
No, you are not. Stop to polish Gaz' apple :P

*All offense intended.
** Not towards those who have one arm. D:
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