mumble? i dont get it...

[Kain888]

Yeah you have to join the mumble server first before starting the game.

No. You can join it whenever you like. During the game as well - it just works normally.

Also I don't use overlay, I feel it's unnecessary - maybe if there wold be one only for SL channel.

And crashes? As Ploddit said except each day reset I can't recall any crashes except one in 2 years of using it.

[KingKong.CCCP]

The more you argue with people who "hate" mumble, the longer it will take them to understand they are totally wrong.
So, Gracler, just forget about it. You don't have to use it. There are plenty of servers where mumble is not mandatory.

[Gracler]

The more you argue with people who "hate" mumble, the longer it will take them to understand they are totally wrong.
So, Gracler, just forget about it. You don't have to use it. There are plenty of servers where mumble is not mandatory.

I think you miss the difference of having an opinion and arguing... as you can see i do frequently use Mumble but if it isn't moderated then i don't see the point. Then it turns into shouting and bitching through the channel and that i can be without.

[Kain888]

No need to moderate channel or anything like that, jst play on server with mature playerbase, should be easy in pr.

[Gracler]

Why not? Shit is awesome and should be turned on at all times if possible. The ability to communicate with blue guys is so damn good. I can't remember all the times I've been saved by consulting blue guys about a situation. I can't remember all the times I've dragged another squad with me for some epic assaulting. It is also invaluable at defences and basically at any given point in any battle.

I do agree with you, and I've had many good experiences with mumble, especially in the beginning when I was introduced to mumble. And I also think some of the jokes that fly around is actually quite entertaining, but after playing a few hours i just want to play the game and then it gets annoying.

I do believe that I'm probably a minority that doesn't like all this random pranks and laughing going on on mumble, so this is why i rather turn off mumble than trying to play the grumpy old man moderating it.

The 1-5 players in my squad I will deal with, the rest of the team I can simply turn off if necessary.

I am looking into mapping some more shortcuts so that i can manage mumble more effectively and so that i can keep it running but just mute it when i really need to listen for enemy's.

I'm buying a new rig as-well and plan to use 2 screens permanently so this will make it a lot easier to figure out who is talking as-well.

[Oskar]

I do believe that I'm probably a minority that doesn't like all this random pranks and laughing going on on mumble, so this is why i rather turn off mumble than trying to play the grumpy old man moderating it.

I'm all with you on this one. I love Mumble as a concept, but whenever I'm on a server like for example PRTA, there is way too much blabbering and talk in the SL channel.
It really distracts me, often times I just mute it altogether.
Whereas when people do keep messages short, to the point and use radio procedure to some extent, I'm all content.

Just because we have Mumble, doesn't mean that the in-game SL markers, commo rose and team-chat are unusable.

[Gracler]

No need to moderate channel or anything like that, jst play on server with mature playerbase, should be easy in pr.

There is always a need for moderation even on the good servers. The difference is the good servers deal with it quickly and efficiently.

Example:

Some time ago a new player joined mumble (because it was a requirement) but for some reason he messed up his settings so he couldn't hear what was being said on mumble but he was using voice-activation so all his sneezing and coughing and random war-cry's was being transmitted force-center. Everyone was shouting him to turn off his mic, but nothing happened. I local-muted him and it took about 10 minutes before an admin removed him from mumble.

[Arc_Shielder]

SL channel?

Agree, it is overused. And then I hear 3 SLs warning me about a tank like I can't hear one when is 50 m away. However in those cases I tolerate because they're using it for what was created for.

But when there's too much blabbering going on I simple say 2 to 3 times "Clear comms!".

It works.

Still, hoping that next version will solve some of these annoyances.

[Kain888]

Still, hoping that next version will solve some of these annoyances.

Till Wicca is alive there won't be any fix to mumbling and blabbering on the SL channel. ;]

Example:

Some time ago a new player joined mumble (because it was a requirement) but for some reason he messed up his settings so he couldn't hear what was being said on mumble but he was using voice-activation so all his sneezing and coughing and random war-cry's was being transmitted force-center. Everyone was shouting him to turn off his mic, but nothing happened. I local-muted him and it took about 10 minutes before an admin removed him from mumble.

Not sure if you are referring to the PRTA, but on PRTA we have hardly more than 2-3 admins that have admin power on Mumble as well. That's the biggest pain.

[Gracler]

Whereas when people do keep messages short, to the point and use radio procedure to some extent, I'm all content.

Just because we have Mumble, doesn't mean that the in-game SL markers, commo rose and team-chat are unusable.

I think that there should be a label on the SL channel saying these wisdom words haha.

[USNCaseySmith]

Yup, this. And if you speak good English make sure you go on PRTA server - Mumble is mandatory and it works best when 100% of the servers population is on.

A lot of people get Mumble and join a dive server full of lonewolfs with perhaps 3 people on Mumble, and then whine that nobody uses it.

It is a brilliant gameplay and immersion tool that allows you to speak realistically to anyone near you on the battlefield. When you get in a chopper, you can talk to the pilot. When you're in CQB you can shout to a neighbouring squad to tell them where a sniper is. When you're a Squad Leader you can talk to the other SL's via the Squad leader Channel.

But please, see it at it's best by going on PRTA and playing PR like it is supposed to be played. If more people did this more people would use Mumble. I struggle to play a proper teamwork game without it, and most people using mumble will want to play a proper teamwork oriented game.

It seperates the wheat from the chaff..


Also, make sure the Overlay feature is on (you need to run mumble before you start PR for this to work) it will show you who's talking. You can set it up to be anywhere on screen and any size.

PRTA?? Ive never heard of that server, which one is that. The only decent server that uses mumble almost 90% of the time and 90% of the in game population use it is Tactical Gamer. Annd how do I start it as an admin? As I 've been having these problems too

[xambone]

So i have to convince the guys who barley hold any interest in mumble to download a new version and all you can say is... it will blow their minds. can someone give some honest features or reason why this will be better, or when we might see it? june? or may?

[gazzthompson]

PRTA?? Ive never heard of that server, which one is that. The only decent server that uses mumble almost 90% of the time and 90% of the in game population use it is Tactical Gamer. Annd how do I start it as an admin? As I 've been having these problems too

project reality teamwork alliance (PRTA) is full every night and kicks non mumblers so has a 100% (or near enough) mumble usage, very popular server.

I have played PR for 3-4 years, the last 4-5 months i have only (with very few exceptions) played on servers with mumble users, no mumble users and i simply dont play as theirs no point (IMO)

[sweedensniiperr]

The reason there is so few mumble admins, which is also the reason it could take some time for a guy to get globally muted is because the servercontrol the mumble ad doesn't mins. The DEVs do. Means,that there is less mumble admins than in-game admins.

[Agemman]

PRTA?? Ive never heard of that server, which one is that. The only decent server that uses mumble almost 90% of the time and 90% of the in game population use it is Tactical Gamer. Annd how do I start it as an admin? As I 've been having these problems too

EU server. Since you're american it might not be that populated or preferred during the american peak.

Till Wicca is alive there won't be any fix to mumbling and blabbering on the SL channel. ;]

Wicca actually has had good comms in SL-channel recently. He's been going CO and telling people to request use of SL-channel through him. Locally though... Yeah that's another story.

[Gracler]

PRTA?? how do I start it as an admin? As I 've been having these problems too

In windows 7 you just right-click the PRmumble(0.5beta).exe and select "run as administrator"

Programs who are not run as administrator normally will not respond to commands unless if they are the active window. Some sort of "brilliant" fail-safe windows use.

Same issue happens with ventrilo etc when your in-game you can still hear people talk but you wont be able to operate using shortcuts without tabbing out.

[USNCaseySmith]

In windows 7 you just right-click the PRmumble(0.5beta).exe and select "run as administrator"

Programs who are not run as administrator normally will not respond to commands unless if they are the active window. Some sort of "brilliant" fail-safe windows use.

Same issue happens with ventrilo etc when your in-game you can still hear people talk but you wont be able to operate using shortcuts without tabbing out.

Thank goodness, I had thought my mumble was broken!! Haha, then is there any way I can set mumble to always run as an admin?

[Gracler]

Again "right-click" PRmumble(0.5beta).exe select "properties" then the "compatibility" tab. Then under Privilege level "check" run this program as an administrator

[Mikemonster]

Radio chatter and having to listen to sometimes un-needed bits of information is part of being a Squad Leader.

Much as I would like there to be some magic filter that only let me know when a report was relevant to my Squad, I recognise that it's my duty as Squad Leader to sort it out myself and use what information is available. Essentially I AM that filter, my job is to relay the relevant stuff to my guys so they can use it to better their position (and fun ).

I would much rather be on a server with frequent talking on SL Channel and VOIP and local Mumble than on a server where nobody talks. it's basic teamwork, too much information from entheusiastic players will beat not enough from players either lonewolfing their squad, or too afraid to break the silence.

There are only about 9 SL slots.. If you are a regular and good SL you will learn the other players, and you will use the last 20 years of human interaction experience to know when and when not to talk.

If someone is being a loudmouth generally other people will back you up if you tell them to leave it.

Also, on the annoying local chatter - If some guys are being asshats, it's almost always because nothing is happening - I.e. you're all at a cache not being attacked (but needing to be defended). Sometimes on PRTA that happens, and it will usually annoy me, but I ignore it. It's an inseperable part of the high level of comms Mumble allows and as such I can tolerate it.

Really, muting everyone because it infringes your dome of security (being able to deal competently and confidently with lots of different comms at once) is pretty lousy in my opinion. And if some of it is too much, just tell them to shut up as more important stuff is going on. Works for me anyway.

Sometimes I think I talk too much on Mumble.. But nobody's told me to shut up yet.

[illidur]

if mumble had an overlay feature that worked well with pr it would probably help ALOT of people.

the overlay would just show who is talking at any given time within the range of hearing. maybe even show the distance/direction (optional)