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Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-05-31 14:54
by Smiddey723
narref wrote:A rock can get you unconscious but helmet should be enugh protection
There you go then

Unconscious = Wounded

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-05-31 21:45
by soldier19919
maarit wrote:if possible... rock shouldnt kill at all just make supression effect to active.
so throw rock at blufor...he gets supression and you can run off and hide.
maybe
wtf, are you stupid? let's say i come there and throw 2 heavy rocks at your face as hard as i can, you'll surely bleed and be in pain, if i throw more, you die

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-05-31 23:04
by badmojo420
Spec_Operator wrote:I know, and I know. But both of these things would not allow people to shoot in real life (I don't mean being run over; I mean a civilian entering a random vehicle in a random city); thus, rocks, which also would not be reason enough to shoot most of the time in real life, couldn't really be considered "no weapon" from a realism standpoint as if you go with realism here, you'd have to allow revives and civies entering cars as well.

As you said, it's game restrictions. My point is; the rock should, as a gameplay decision, also be considered a weapon, imo.
Agreed. I just wanted to clarify those rules because there is so much confusion surrounding them. I get killed all the time if I pull out the medic bag. It's so bad that I'll do it just so they kill me and get punished.

And the unarmed kit should come with rocks. At least for the non-conventional forces.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-01 00:20
by Shaheed
Sorry but rocks are not overpowered!! did u know a rock with a weight of 250 g (realistic weight) and thrown with a impact speed of 150 kmh (good baseballers throw with more than 170 kmh precise, so i think i can throw a stone with 150 kmh maybe not very precise, but this is another subject), have about 1,5 times more energy than a ak bullet!! if a stone hit your head it will definitly break your bones, which in 90 % (my father was doctor) gonna kill u! so i think stones or rocks are not overpowered!!

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-01 00:42
by Bringerof_D
i say leave it as it is, it's a lot harder to hit someone with a rock in PR than it is in real life anyways. There is also no reference as to how heavy the rock being thrown is. and to be perfectly honest i too have never actually managed to kill anyone with the rock save for the one time he was already bleeding out.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-01 10:32
by Mahis
If i throw a fist sized rock on ur face u will go to hospital or die, thats a fact.
It takes more than 2 rocks to head and more than 5 to torso to kill. Once we had 3 guys like 2m from a medic throwing him with rocks. He just kept healing himself and we didnt manage to kill him.
So its not overpowered imo.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-01 12:02
by maarit
soldier19919 wrote:wtf, are you stupid? let's say i come there and throw 2 heavy rocks at your face as hard as i can, you'll surely bleed and be in pain, if i throw more, you die

chill out dude.
but maybe you are right.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-01 22:58
by Von_Gnome
Last weekend, me and some pubbies made a civvie-sq, and when we were half past the round, our sq had the the highest KDR in the insurgent team :D

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-01 23:32
by Boris.T.Spider
If anything is overpowered it is the restrainers. They should not produce a dead-dead result, same goes for knife/bayonet and other h2h attacks. Although, perhaps for balance they could reduce the amount of wounded time a restrained civy gets before they expire, but having a lone wolf rush into a group of insurgents and punch out the civy for an IP bonus, get gunned down, and the squad can do nothing for their arrested comrade while he stares at a black screen for over a minute is a bit strange. It would make sense if to get the intel points the BLUFOR would have to stay around to interrogate said civy for say two minuntes until he goes dead-dead, or at least make sure he was not rescued before being picked up by the hypothetical invisible interrogators.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-02 14:33
by seasmy
I know you guys are all talking about the "Over-Powered Rock" But look at the size of it FIRST! Its not that big to kill a guy when hit on the chest, As i told you in my first post :l . I have been hit on the head with a brick but I was only Unconscious NOT my head bleeding Nor I was wounded .

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-02 21:34
by Nebsif
Realistic or not, who cares? Killing people with rocks is one of the most fun things u can do in PR, usually they dont even understand why theyre bleeding as the rock makes no sound.. epic thingy that rock is.

+1 for what Boris said!!! ^

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 05:53
by Nakata
the rock is over powered.. most guys says "if the rock hit your face ..." nut the most of rock in game dont hit the face.

Solution: more rock hits to kill, permision to kill the civi if he kills somone, critical hit for hits on face.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 07:09
by Michael_Denmark
Not completely sure if the rock is overpowered, or not. The rock is an old weapon. A well-aimed rock thrown with high speed against the head, should be able to kill a person.

Cop hit by rock in gang violence in Noble Park | Herald Sun


Besides, people have used rocks to kill each-other for millenniums. If time or interest, check out ancient warfare.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 13:17
by Dorkweed
well... technically you're wounded the first time you're downed by a rock...

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 14:13
by vishuddaxxx
insurgents are nerfed as it is?

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 14:42
by CallousDisregard
You can kill people with a smoke grenade to the face so a rock seems fair.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 14:52
by AtlantisThief
Okay interesting, i was today having a funny round as a civilian and was throwing up to 7 stones at a soldier (i think you mean rock=stone). It weren't "head-throws" but all 7 body hits and he was neither caughing nor did he seem to feel disturbed by me.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 15:15
by CallousDisregard
I was told that body shots are worth 1 hit point out of 100 total.

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 20:26
by Mikemonster
CallousDisregard wrote:I was told that body shots are worth 1 hit point out of 100 total.
We need 100 'rock-sniper' civvy's, a willing Blufor guy, and a 128 server to test this.. MWAHAHAHAHA

Re: Overpowered ROCK!

Posted: 2011-06-03 20:52
by badmojo420
Dorkweed wrote:well... technically you're wounded the first time you're downed by a rock...
^This

I think most of the people complaining the rock is OP need to stick with a squad.(And medic)