[Proposal] Nordic Battle Group ?

[hx.bjoffe]

Nice uniform, but unless you find a nice afghani pineforest to hide inside a desert camo would be more suited for this mod.
Or a snowy white one. If anyone were to piss of the russians.

[robbo]

Can you use Euroforces player models it just seems right haha.

[Polka]

I hope not, because everything about euro forces was fail.

[para_hjs]

Is the NBG faction devs serious about the idea or just "playing around, and see whats happens"? Do you devs got a devblog or similar?

Anyway, keep up the work.

Looks pretty interesting. Are you in prepreprepre ALPHA state or what?

[halvor1]

Is the NBG faction devs serious about the idea or just "playing around, and see whats happens"? Do you devs got a devblog or similar?

Anyway, keep up the work.

Looks pretty interesting. Are you in prepreprepre ALPHA state or what?

Off course we are taking this seriously just wait ok we need to make some more progress first!

[Glimmerman]

Sweden uses the 40mm, denmark and holland uses 35mm and all others use 30mm (CV9030 is the export version, I guess holland and denmark are special )

We are

[Fonveh]

It's a good idea. But I'd rather want to see a fictional Scandinavian coalition (Norway, Sweden, Denmark)

You could use a variation of the Kalmar flag.

a symbol of Scandinavian unity.

me, KP and olsson discussed doing this faction a while back, but I'm afraid that its not such a good idea due to the complications of having many armies as one - I have a few suggestions myself, but it isnt really suited for PR imo.


I mean, just look at the development time for the other factions, even factions that only really have one handheld weapon as their main requirement to get done for a build, now mix 2-5 contries weapons, soldier skins, vehicles and sell that to the DEVs, I think not - sorry.

the only right way to do this, imo, is to choose one army, make that, then move on. Will take forever and of course everyone wants their homelands forces. Someone just needs to stand up and say, "screw you guys (in a nice way of course , me and these guys here: (insert community modders) are making this faction".

I don't get what you're saying here. You design it to be one faction, so how would this equal more work for the modders? For example, rifleman being Norwegian with Norwegian equipment, Machine gunner being Swedish with Swedish equipment, medic being Danish with Danish equipment.

I also think a united Scandinavian force would be easier for the community to swallow, as separate Scandinavian countries don't make up much of a force on their own.

[KP]

It's a good idea. But I'd rather want to see a fictional Scandinavian coalition (Norway, Sweden, Denmark)

You could use a variation of the Kalmar flag.

a symbol of Scandinavian unity.


I don't get what you're saying here. You design it to be one faction, so how would this equal more work for the modders? For example, rifleman being Norwegian with Norwegian equipment, Machine gunner being Swedish with Swedish equipment, medic being Danish with Danish equipment.

There is no Scandinavian unity. Bloody Swedes stealing our wiminz!

That means we'd have to model a bunch more weapons and more vehicles.
If we'd have different weapons for different countries/classes, we'd need (off the top of my head):

HK416 (just because I don't know what you other guys are using for Spec Ops)
AG3F2
C7A1
Ak5C
Whatever support weapon you lot use...
Glock 17 (and possibly a couple of other pistols)
DMR
Sniper rifle
L-AT
H-AT
Grenades and other kit
As opposed to now, when we have a bunch of AG3F2 versions instead of a million billion different assault rifles.

I also think a united Scandinavian force would be easier for the community to swallow, as separate Scandinavian countries don't make up much of a force on their own.

Tell that to the boys who get shot at in Afghanistan.

[Fonveh]

There is no Scandinavian unity.

It's not that unlikely in military terms. In a potential major conflict in China or the Middle East you might have seen mixed Scandinavian units. There are already alot of talks about cooperation between the 3 countries.

That means we'd have to model a bunch more weapons and more vehicles.

You would possibly have to model 2 or 3 more weapons than other mods. Many are similar to what we already have in-game.

HK416 (just because I don't know what you other guys are using for Spec Ops)
AG3F2 (Ag3 already in-game, though not the F2 version)
C7A1 (Scoped version already in-game)
Ak5C
Minimi (Already in-game)
Glock 17 (I believe one is enough)
DMR (Hk-417, or maybe an AG3 variant)
Sniper rifle (PSG-90)
L-AT - At4 (already in-game)
H-AT (MBT LAW?)
Crew Mp-7

Vehicles:
Tank: Leopard 2 variant
APC: CV-90 - maybe the 40 caliber variant.
Planes: Gripen and F-16 (JSF?)
Transport: Iveco maybe
Truck: Scania variant
Helicopter: FH-90

As opposed to now, when we have a bunch of AG3F2 versions instead of a million billion different assault rifles.

Have you already started a mod with a separate Scandinavian country?

Tell that to the boys who get shot at in Afghanistan.

Of course, all respect to them. But I can't help but think you'll get alot of protests from the PR community with a separate Norwegian, Swedish or Danish mod. But, maybe I'm wrong...

[Z-trooper]

You guys keep saying scandinavian but you never mention Finland...

anyways, my previous comments still stand unchanged I'm afraid, but if anyone has the e-balls to try and pull something like that off and is granted a miracle of a lot of willing modders AND get somone how knows how to, and is willing to, import all of these many many weapons and vehicles it will require - then I say go for it and pray that the DEVs include it, I just know that I wont spend 10's or 100's of spare time hours on something thats not very likely to succeed anyways.

[Fonveh]

Already in-game? are you sure?

L119A1. British spec ops rifle. Not the exact version, but I doubt many can see the difference.

[KP]

It's not that unlikely in military terms. In a potential major conflict in China or the Middle East you might have seen mixed Scandinavian units. There are already alot of talks about cooperation between the 3 countries.

A mixed Scandinavian unit would be part of a larger task force if anything, and not operate on its own. And it's unlikely that Norwegian forces would be sent to war or anything other than "peace-keeping" missions. Thanks, SV!

You would possibly have to model 2 or 3 more weapons than other mods. Many are similar to what we already have in-game.

HK416 (just because I don't know what you other guys are using for Spec Ops)
AG3F2 (Ag3 already in-game, though not the F2 version)
C7A1 (Scoped version already in-game) No, it isn't. Not even close, actually. The L119A1 is the M4, while the C7A1 is the M16.
Ak5C
Minimi (Already in-game)
Glock 17 (I believe one is enough) Not if different countries use different pistols.
DMR (Hk-417, or maybe an AG3 variant) Which still needs to be made.
Sniper rifle (PSG-90) Which still needs to be made.
L-AT - At4 (already in-game) Is that used by Scandinavian countries?
H-AT (MBT LAW?)
Crew Mp-7 That would have to be a Norwegian crewman, who, in any case, probably wouldn't use an MP7, but, rather, an AG3F1.

Vehicles:
Tank: Leopard 2 variant
APC: CV-90 - maybe the 40 caliber variant. Needs to be made.
Planes: Gripen and F-16 (JSF?) Gripen would have to be made.
Transport: Iveco maybe Needs to be made.
Truck: Scania variant Needs to be made.
Helicopter: FH-90 It's called the NH-90 and needs to be made.



Have you already started a mod with a separate Scandinavian country?

Read the thread - it's been mentioned several times.


Of course, all respect to them. But I can't help but think you'll get alot of protests from the PR community with a separate Norwegian, Swedish or Danish mod. But, maybe I'm wrong...
Why? We don't throw the Canadians and the US together, just because they're close and take part in operations in the same country.

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[ZaZZo]

I quite agree with you there, KP.

(Though I might've misunderstood you earlier )

[MaxBooZe]

Btw: Pansarskott m/86 = AT4. Used by swedish army:
designated Pansarskott m/86 (AT4, all versions) and used by all branches of the Swedish Armed Forces

[Fonveh]

A mixed Scandinavian unit would be part of a larger task force if anything, and not operate on its own. And it's unlikely that Norwegian forces would be sent to war or anything other than "peace-keeping" missions. Thanks, SV!

Maybe I'm missing something, but when is this mod supposed to take place? There's an election next year, and I think it's the first and last time that SV will be in the government. Either way, as a NATO member I'm pretty sure Norway would be involved in a global war, regardless of what SV thinks.

C7A1 (Scoped version already in-game) No, it isn't. Not even close, actually. The L119A1 is the M4, while the C7A1 is the M16.

My mistake. Wouldn't it be possible to partially use the M16 model in-game then?

L-AT - At4 (already in-game) Is that used by Scandinavian countries?

It is used by both Sweden and Denmark.

Crew Mp-7 That would have to be a Norwegian crewman, who, in any case, probably wouldn't use an MP7, but, rather, an AG3F1.

Well, it's up to the timeframe of the mod again. Mp7 will be delivered this year, and is intended to be used as a crew weapon from what I heard.

Read the thread - it's been mentioned several times.

Ah, ok. It would be cool to see Norwegian forces in-game. Lets hope you won't be attacked by the Americans who have never even heard of Norway though.

[MaxBooZe]

The L119A1 Is the C8 thou still a Diemaco if needed..

[KP]

Maybe I'm missing something, but when is this mod supposed to take place? There's an election next year, and I think it's the first and last time that SV will be in the government. Either way, as a NATO member I'm pretty sure Norway would be involved in a global war, regardless of what SV thinks.

And thank heavens for that. What a wannabe political party. But even if Norway is a part of such a war, that does not mean Norwegian troops would be deployed and working closely with Swedish (they aren't in NATO), Danish or Finnish (who aren't in NATO either) troops. And, besides, the Nordic Battlegroup has nothing to do with NATO.

My mistake. Wouldn't it be possible to partially use the M16 model in-game then?

It would still have to be re-modelled, textured and imported.

It is used by both Sweden and Denmark.

All right.

Well, it's up to the timeframe of the mod again. Mp7 will be delivered this year, and is intended to be used as a crew weapon from what I heard.

Well, I'm not sure exactly what it's supposed to be used for. MP5 replacement, I now as much, but I believe current vehicle crews (or it may just be mounted personnel) use AG3F1s.

Ah, ok. It would be cool to see Norwegian forces in-game. Lets hope you won't be attacked by the Americans who have never even heard of Norway though.

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