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Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-12 11:56
by Mr.VdHeide
As a matter of fact I have been following this thread since the start.

Yes. The fact they have no !admins command makes it hard to see if there are admins online. But it is not that hard to make a complete list of all their admins. And then whenever something happens, you check which admins are online in the player tab and record how they respond. Though I understand most people join a server with the intention to play PR, instead of playing detective... lol




D.J.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-12 12:47
by kanakeitto
[R-CON]Mr.VdHeide wrote:But it is also up to the community to give the PRTA staf specific names. Is there any kind of list? It would be good to have a list of 'bad' admins supported with video evidence to actually prove to PRTA how much some of their admins are failing to do what they are supposed to do
FYI: on their forums the admins do everything to hide the identities of those who have been reported for admin abuse etc. and settle with giving them only so-called 'internal warnings' (God only knows what these include, I'd guess LOLs over how easily fooled the community is). So, it's almost impossible to pinpoint the most unfunctional admins because of '!admins'-command not working and staff's silence+unwillingless to act on the matter.

Argument "Well, it's probably just some rogue admins not doing their jobs right" seems to be untrue based on all this, it's more likely that it's the minority that does their job (or their hobby :lol :) well.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-12 13:16
by Mr.VdHeide
All I was trying to say is that it would be good to get a topic filled with actual evidence. With actual evidence I mean that the community needs to get a lot of properly organized evidence that can be used against prta.

Also, if you feel like PRTA is a bad server, then just don't play there. There are plenty of other servers that can be seeded

I personally hope that the PRTA lead admins will recognise the issues and solve them.




D.J.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-13 14:24
by FlyingR
So I was following this thread and the old PRTA thread for quite some time and reading many members complaining about how the server was poorly administered.

I've never had a problem in that server myself but reading all the feedback from this thread always made me reluctant in joining the PRTA server, but sometimes there's truly no alternative so I joined yesterday evening with a few friends; Beirut and Muttrah, so here's my feedback:

Teamswitching: well, one of my guys was in the wrong team so I did !r please switch... and found myself surprised that they switched my man instantly. You did prove me wrong on that front, so well done.

!admins: This is very annoying and frustrating, for the love of God please put it back, make things transparent or most people will think there's something shady going on.

From the other member's feedback I still find it weird how some things are handled but I won't stick my nose. I've never had a problem with you guys, and appreciate that you make events for the community, especially the Manhunt one (when the hell is it coming back?!)!

Cheers

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-15 07:54
by Mats391
May I ask why the tracker is not public? Want to see what was going on here, but cba to use battlerecorder as its over 40min into the game.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-15 12:31
by Clund
'[R-DEV wrote:Mats391;2161605']May I ask why the tracker is not public? Want to see what was going on here, but cba to use battlerecorder as its over 40min into the game.
It is, kinda. PM a manager and you will get the link.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-15 23:41
by sunshine2241991
Today after hovering at 1k alt . with transport to be stand by for supple got warning for trolling without explanation even when i asked twice for a explanation .
after 50 min i got shoot down . waited for 5 min for new trans because they needed supple got shoot again .
got kicked .
top server quality

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 08:03
by Wicca
For a server that is really unpopular they sure are popular, they had 2 servers fully seeded yesterday! Explain this to me.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 08:27
by DrHaX
Wicca wrote:For a server that is really unpopular they sure are popular, they had 2 servers fully seeded yesterday! Explain this to me.
Just like when Rana was in FH he seeded the server every morning and the majority who join at that time do not care what server to join - therefore most of the times they filled FH. Even when the most of the times when he interacted with the community he had to use google translate and the administration quality wasn't good to say the least

If you have only a few servers to join during the evening and you don't have time to seed servers, like many of the people here who don't, they just join whatever they can to play the game. If there was a choice they would always join the one which was administrated better because they end up having the best games there. But right now there is a lack of people to actually seed the servers and nobody is arsed to go for a failed seed when there is already X server seeded.

But by all means, hide yourselves behind the false idea that populated = quality

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 08:34
by Tommygun
I'm amazed at the hate here. How come its always the admins fault and not the slaptards who don't read rules or care about them and ruin the game for everyone else? Admins would hardly be needed if people behaved.

The !admins command was removed from PRTA because some players would come on and use it to see if there were any admins on. If not they would go wild and TK or destroy all the assets in their main base or generally behave like the children they are.

As far as I know no one is secretive about being an admin and those in the community who care enough know who we are and can visit the teamspeak server and see ts.prta.co

PRTA are always looking for admins. The more we have the better (my view) and it means less work for each individual as the load is shared. Be the admin you want to see.

Some admins don't work out and some have bad days, we are all human. PRTA tries to address that. We are not perfect. I try not to admin. I get going when the server is full and just kick AFKs, no Mics and people not in sqds and then people who are very naughty and get several complaints about them. Other admins are a bit more hands on. We all have or differences, like football refs! Some of us are more liberal with the red card.

Personally, I just love the game and don't really care which server I play on as long as the ping is good and there are not a load of slaptards ruining game balance. I am an admin on PRTA so I seed that and people come and play, so I stay and it seems others do too. However, if PRTA is not seeded I have no problem playing on HOG, Area 94 or based or any others if they are doing well and my ping is reasonable. There is too much childish factionalism. Let it go, play the game on the server that works best for you.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 09:30
by mrjoe(ita)
Tommygun wrote:I'm amazed at the hate here. How come its always the admins fault and not the slaptards who don't read rules or care about them and ruin the game for everyone else? Admins would hardly be needed if people behaved.
Is the admins fault when they bend the rules to favor them and their friends. Sadly there is a lot of evidence of such "modus operandi" on this thread, so I would say the majority of the complaints are not due to the slaptards that play on the server (which are a minor issue on PRTA)

I personally would appreciate and understand more if you were more honest and said: this is our server and admins have free judgment on what is acceptable and rules are subject to interpretation by any PRTA admin.

Regardess the DrHax post, since he mentioned F|H, I agree with him, seeding the server nowadays happens when you start early in the morning. People from fare east are the best seeders, because it is afternoon for them, when is early morning for us. As long as you have an admin active in the morning (Europe time) you will seed.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 09:31
by gwa1hir
Wicca wrote:For a server that is really unpopular they sure are popular, they had 2 servers fully seeded yesterday! Explain this to me.
narrow minded as always, wicca

how can the food be bad and unhealthy at Mc Donalds when so many people eat there...amirite?
*face palm*

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 11:48
by Wicca
gwa1hir wrote:narrow minded as always, wicca

how can the food be bad and unhealthy at Mc Donalds when so many people eat there...amirite?
*face palm*
Cause it tastes good?

Like what, dont you like mcdonalds?

Your just mad because you hate PRTA, and they are succeeding!

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 11:54
by Mats391
Clund wrote:It is, kinda. PM a manager and you will get the link.
I have the link, but it requires login now

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 12:15
by Vista
Wicca wrote: Your just mad because you hate PRTA, and they are succeeding!
If by succeeding you mean getting dozens of admin abuse reports, then yeah, they are absolutely killing it!

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 12:22
by Wicca
Vista wrote:If by succeeding you mean getting dozens of admin abuse reports, then yeah, they are absolutely killing it!
They are the undisputed EU go to server. No other server can maintain the same frequency of seeding and population throughout the day.

I guess, the more people that visit the server, the more issues you will have, something you might not know about..

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 13:43
by CAS_ual_TY
Wicca wrote:They are the undisputed EU go to server. No other server can maintain the same frequency of seeding and population throughout the day.

I guess, the more people that visit the server, the more issues you will have, something you might not know about..
As much as I try to stay out of this, what you just wrote might be the case of NA servers, but eu is far away from that. I will just quote myself:
CAS_ual_TY wrote:[...]
On a serious note: Thats not how seeding works anymore. You now try to get as many players as possible on fallujah, and hope for all arabs to join, because they love fallujah, more than any populated server. The =KW=, _AM_SY_ (or anything with SY), =AW= and other arab clan tags always join fallujah. Servers have seeded up on their own (from 0 players) just because fallujah was running and some arabs joined it.

And thats how you seed nowadays. And thats why fallujah is the only map worth seeding on right now. You can even outseed a server with 50 players if you are on fallujah and the other is not.

If this wouldnt be the case, and everyone joins because of they like a specific server (ofc there are people like that, but very rarely at the morning or seeding time) then PRTA would be able to seed perfectly fine on any map. But as all servers, they are running fallujah only because thats the only way to seed right now.
Also, its not how many issues you have, its how you resolve them and how you prevent them from happening in the future. Of course a server that is seeded more regularly will get more issues than a server that is not seeded regularly, but that is not an excuse to, well, ignore them or handle them badly for either of those servers ("hey we seed anyways, lets ignore it!" // "hey, we barely seed anyways, it doesnt matter, lets ignore it!").

Now, to talk directly about your statement and the server I am writing feedback in, look at the last part of my quote. I wish, I truly wish that the playerbase would care about what server they play on, I dont care what server, but that is not the case in eu, maybe because of the different countries and cultures people here come from. But there are times where I enjoy playing on NA more than on EU.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 14:25
by gwa1hir
Wicca wrote:Cause it tastes good?

Like what, dont you like mcdonalds?

Your just mad because you hate PRTA, and they are succeeding!
if you think mcdonalds or any other fast food restaurant and their low class food truly tastes good, you probably never had a really good burger, or good food in general, in your life.they give you shit to eat. and you scream for more....fucking peasant

and yeah im totally mad because all i care in life are PR servers :D . i couldnt give less fucks about which server succeeds.

but lets get not too off-topic. your logic about "many player = quality" is flawed in so many ways. and i dont think you have the capabilities to understand that so i wont keep trying.
but who am i to talk? we are all just mad kids and are jealous of PRTA ;)

close the thread boys, wicca figured us out !

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 14:47
by Wicca
If PRTA is as unpopular as you claim, and the other servers are much more popular. Why are you loosing the seeding wars?

Seems to me that the people replying to this thread are just really good at making alot of noise over nothing.

If other servers than PRTA were much better, wouldnt that mean that people would get up alot more early than PRTA players to seed?

And yes, I think having players on a server makes it better, since who wants to play alone..

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-04-16 14:50
by Clund
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:I have the link, but it requires login now
Apparently they changed it :(