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Re: The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo
Posted: 2008-07-22 11:00
by markonymous
damn you i was just about to post that

Re: The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo
Posted: 2008-07-22 11:21
by Scot
Hmm I know Wiki isn't the most trusted source, but it doesn't say that the DRC use that vehicle. However Zimbabwe and Burkina Faso do, so it's not unreasonable for them not to use it.
Re: The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo
Posted: 2008-07-22 11:27
by Brummy
Watch the vid. Wiki doesn't say DRC uses the AK47/AKM either. Now tell me they don't..
Re: The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo
Posted: 2008-07-22 11:36
by Scot
Yeah, sorry hadn't seen the vid, like I said, Wiki isn't the most trusted source.
Re: The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo
Posted: 2008-07-22 13:28
by STORM-Mama
[quote=""'[R-MOD"]Brummy;737841']Nope AKMs are generally used in Eastern Countries which produce it themselves. It would not be hard, but currently we have some problems with the AK.[/quote]
I understand.
[quote="sakils2""]Defending their country and natural resources from the bad guys?[/quote]
I was referring to the colonial heritage. Many african politicians blame the western world for their misery. Also, China/MEC probably won't have the same kind of demands on human rights, etc. as NATO. And developing countries generally care more about their economy then human rights and democracy.
But, most of all, PR is in need of a new conventional OPFOR.

Re: The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo
Posted: 2008-07-22 16:30
by FastWinston
Yes pleas make the AKM and AKMS, as many of the congolese soldiers (and other conventional African armies) i have seen use them (alot also use one of the Chinese knockoffs (giveaways are the hooded front sight and mounted spiked bayonet))! Compared to the AK47(s) you need a straight angled folding stock and different wooden stock and forward grip, stamped reciever, different pistol grip, compensator/muzzle reducer and a ribbed reciever cover. The model already made seems to have a bit of both the AKM and AK47 and should be remade/fixed, but of course there are a billion different variants of the AK so (almost) nothing is dead wrong in the extreme sense

Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-22 22:44
by EOD_Security-2252
Definately no about the AKM. Africa in general has way to low of an economy to get modern AKs of any sort. All of the guns in Africa are either left over from the colonial powers or imported from the Middle East. South Africa's about the only country in Africa that could have AKMs, but they don't use them.
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 01:11
by ValerioZ.[ITA]
Please, evaluated my idea, this is :
African Rebel Union Vs Nato
AUR (Congo/Somalia/Rhodesia/Zimbabwe/Ethiopia/Rwanda ecc)
-Ak47
-Ak47 Su
-AKS-47
-PKM
-Fal ecc..
Nato (Us/Ita/Uk ecc)
The rebels Africans are bad because they are Muslims of the revolutionaries.
In somalia NATO sending America and Italy.
The Italy had many colonies in africa, After the "Operation Irine" many Italians died in Somalia and in Ethiopia.
Several soldiers were made prisoners.
(14 Italian soldiers died and several were made prisoners.)

Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 07:46
by arjan
'ValerioZ.[ITA wrote:;739009']
The rebels Africans are bad because they are Muslims of the revolutionaries.
Dude, but after that you hijack this thread for youre own we gonna stick to a plan we have right now.
Its quite stupid if we allready have a faction up, and are working on the weapons/codes/ and w/e, and you come in asking for a whole new faction, and you probaly only care about the italians.
And you already are trying to get a italian faction in the works, so discuss stuff in youre own thread.
If you want youre own faction dont post in here, Thank you.
its bad enough you typ racist kinda stuff down :S
and Brummy. when are the stuff for mapping ready?

Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 08:15
by STORM-Mama
FastWinston wrote:(alot also use one of the Chinese knockoffs (giveaways are the hooded front sight and mounted spiked bayonet))!
Type 56
EOD_Security-2252 wrote:Definately no about the AKM. Africa in general has way to low of an economy to get modern AKs of any sort. All of the guns in Africa are either left over from the colonial powers or imported from the Middle East. South Africa's about the only country in Africa that could have AKMs, but they don't use them.
I understand what you mean, but calling the AKM a "modern rifle" is not really correct. It was designed in the 50s and has been spread throughout the world since. According to wikipedia "the AKM is the most ubiquitous variant of the entire AK series of firearms" and that doesn't sound that unlikely to me. It was after the 50s that the Soviets really started mass-producing and giving away weapons to their allies.
And don't have enough money to buy it? Lol, the AKM is the one of the AK-variants that is most easy and cheap to produce in vast numbers.

That was one of the reasons that the Soviets replaced the original AK47 with it.
When I think about it, maybe giving them the AKM really wouldn't make them feel more organized. Forget about it.
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 08:28
by sakils2
Sorry, for double-post.
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 08:37
by sakils2
I was referring to the colonial heritage. Many african politicians blame the western world for their misery. Also, China/MEC probably won't have the same kind of demands on human rights, etc. as NATO. And developing countries generally care more about their economy then human rights and democracy.
But, most of all, PR is in need of a new conventional OPFOR.
I am sorry, if I offented you. Well, I blame western world, too. Africa was almost robbed naked. Altough, there we're some African kings (something like that) who sold slaves etc.
Of course we need OPFOR. Reality ftw!!!
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 10:20
by Brummy
arjan wrote:Dude, but after that you hijack this thread for youre own we gonna stick to a plan we have right now.
Its quite stupid if we allready have a faction up, and are working on the weapons/codes/ and w/e, and you come in asking for a whole new faction, and you probaly only care about the italians.
And you already are trying to get a italian faction in the works, so discuss stuff in youre own thread.
If you want youre own faction dont post in here, Thank you.
its bad enough you typ racist kinda stuff down :S
and Brummy. when are the stuff for mapping ready?
Z is working on vegitation, he said he could get them imported around Monday-Tuesday.
Anyway, Guys, stick to the rules. No racism, etc. You guys know it, don't do it

Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 10:26
by arjan
Sounds good!

Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 11:40
by ValerioZ.[ITA]
arjan wrote:Dude, but after that you hijack this thread for youre own we gonna stick to a plan we have right now.
Its quite stupid if we allready have a faction up, and are working on the weapons/codes/ and w/e, and you come in asking for a whole new faction, and you probaly only care about the italians.
And you already are trying to get a italian faction in the works, so discuss stuff in youre own thread.
If you want youre own faction dont post in here, Thank you.
its bad enough you typ racist kinda stuff down :S
and Brummy. when are the stuff for mapping ready?
I do not ask a new faction. I ask an enemy for my faction. Idiot. Of the racist from to the others and not to me.
I have only said that many Africans are Muslems and are the truth.
The somalis are Muslems.
A need Opposing Force and african rebel are a good idea
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 11:50
by arjan
Watch youre language man.
and you said that they where bad!
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 11:51
by STORM-Mama
'ValerioZ.[ITA wrote:;739312']I do not ask a new faction. I ask an enemy for my faction. Idiot.
And the enemy of "your faction" is not a faction itself? What are you trying to say? There are in fact people that take this project seriously. As an army on its own and not only an opportunity to include the italians in PR.
So please take your insults somewhere else.
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 11:57
by arjan
Thanks STORM that was exactly what i wanted to say to him, but couldnt get the words.
Re: [Proposal] The Army of the Democratic Republic of Congo Faction
Posted: 2008-07-23 12:43
by Pride
Guys, just stfu arguing and start revelling in Brummy's Congolese 1337ness
