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Posted: 2007-07-14 06:51
by Lampshade111
Leave it alone!

If you don't like it don't use it!

Posted: 2007-07-14 09:39
by Bob_Marley
What if I don't like the fact that some idiot gets it, uses it for front line combat gets killed and hands over an M4 or L119A1 to the enemy, who are wearing body armor, and that can make them tricky to deal with.

Also the idiots who spawn as SF then grab a limited kit, get killed, etc...

Posted: 2007-07-14 10:03
by Outlawz7
Bob_Marley wrote:What if I don't like the fact that some idiot gets it, uses it for front line combat gets killed and hands over an M4 or L119A1 to the enemy, who are wearing body armor, and that can make them tricky to deal with.
Don't play USMC :p

Last time I played Qwai as PLA, an enemy squad, we constantly engaged, consisted of Support, Medic and 4 SFs :roll:

Posted: 2007-07-14 14:13
by PIMP{UK}1
How about this;

Spec Ops kit is requestable, only 2/4 max per team (64 player server).

Kit can only be obtained from main base.

Spec Ops can not join other sqauds and their sqaud appears locked to others.

Kit gets ubered up with c4, slams and anything else useful for attacking behind enemy lines.
Or the other idea could be have him act as more recon for artillery maybe?

They need limiting anyway and used for what they should do, recon and sabotage.

Posted: 2007-07-15 11:08
by Alex6714
I like it, a bit of a variation to the standard soldier with all the same rifle. I think SF is useful, mostly as a pointman or other such things, because he is not as important as the rifleman with ammo, the engineer with c4 or the medic with health.

Also, I rarely see a SF with a good squadleader, usually he organizes his squad to have medics, riflemen, engineers and maybe an AT/support guy. The SF isn´t normally chosen because he isn´t as useful. That is what I think anyway.

Maybe to satisfy people the name should be changed, and take away his field dressing, binoculars or something? Not sure about the taking away part.

Posted: 2007-07-24 20:18
by six.point.8
SF could be exchanged for an urban-combat kit.
e.g. USMC gets:
  • m16/m4 with an eotech sight
    • Underbarrel Masterkey Shotgun
  • knife
  • flashbangs
  • smoke or teargas
  • field dressing
Additionally the SF kit could be kept, be 'pimped-out' (more powerful SLAMs, mp5/mp5sd, m4sd, aksd, kriss, etc...), and be used as a limited kit with no/low point bonus for frontline combat and a large point bonus for destroying enemy assets.

Whatever decision the devs make, I'm sure it'll pwn anything I come up with. ;-)

ps: if the above has already been stated, in this manner, my apologies.

Posted: 2007-07-24 21:10
by MichSt-Spartan
I just really think that the kit should be given a parachute, and limited. Then choppers could fly high over the enemy base and drop the SF squad in secretly to perform their mission.

Posted: 2007-07-24 22:46
by Zybon
Theres a lot of hating on people that pick sf for the m4a1, but that weapon is simply more appropriate and would actually be used IRL in many urban situations (m4a1 is used by some troops that patrol Iraq.)

So, with that in mind I believe there should be a new CQB kit that gets both m4a1 (for US) and body armor. This would also keep people from picking the limited kit just for an automatic weapon.

Heres what I would like special forces to be:
  • Limited kit
  • No armor
  • Knife
  • Silenced close-quarters battle weapon
  • Pistol
  • Parachute (in lieu of fast roping)
  • SOFLAM
  • Grappling Hook
  • SLAMs
  • Flashbangs
  • At least 2 Field Dressings (self sufficiency)
  • INCREASED respawn time due to the extra training needed

Posted: 2007-07-25 00:06
by bunny
i sed leave it alone, but the paratrooper thingwould be cool. it's been suggested b4 tho and its been problematic so idk

Posted: 2007-07-25 00:27
by nillazsuck
I think the special forces should look like this Image
Seriously though I don't really see the need for special forces. They don't have anything useful to benefit the squad. Maybe if they had some kind of a requestable asset from the cammander like a vehile. Something that would make them "special". Then make it a limited kit. Or simply rename it "Noob Forces".