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jigsaw-uk wrote:I can see what you are saying, and it may be useful in pub games but it would require extreme discipline from all concerned which is the only way it would work in a pub game, and im sure you must understand that that simply will not happen in 95% of pub games. It also means that every1 in the server has to be connected to the same mumble server. What then happens to the guy who doesnt have mumble (which would inevitably happen countless times in a pub game), does he just sit and cry in a corner?

It necessitates having 2 methods of communication, VOIP and mumble in order to maintain any kind of squad cohesion. For example, I like to split my squads into 2 or 3 man fireteams dependent on the situation. How am I supposed to speak to the other fireteams which could be some distance away without using the existing VOIP/TS method.

Now Tartantyco I believe that you are in the PRT as well as I am so lets look at it from that angle. During battle I have 1 main TS button and 4 keybinds. It takes around 10 seconds to set up a keybind, and allows you to then communicate with each specific SL in your team, without all of them hearing the 2 of you jabbering on about whatever.
In addition you can set whispers so that all SLs can converse in private with each other.

Now to some of your other points:
1. If you see a enemy moving up behind your "blue" m8 how about you just shoot that enemy and you've got no problems. The very fact that your shooting will alert him.
2. Why would I want to break up different squads into different fireteams. How the hell is that supposed to work. Having fireteams composed of different members of different squads is pointless, counter-productive and confusing as hell.
3. Flooding the VOIP? VOIP is within your own squad. If you want to talk to another squad then use your keybinds as detailed above. Your still using the VOIP for in-squad comms so why would you bother with mumble? Sounds to me like the VOIP would be pretty well flooded if all SMs from 2 different squads are chatting away to one another.
4. You can only talk to each other within a certain distance. What happens then when you split to envelope an enemy position by flanking from the left and right with a base of fire? You then have to use the existing VOIP/TS, cos you'll be just that far away that in the heat of battle you cant quite make out what the others are saying, so whats the point in using the mumble in the 1st place? Why not just use VOIP/TS all the time?

Therefore in my mind it is fixing something that was not broken in the 1st place. The only feasible benefits of mumble over TS are to allow individuals to talk to each other in-game without using chat (so long as they are close enough) and allowing their voices to seem as though they are coming from each players position in-game.



Ok, now I admit that I have done the above Although im not saying its shit and doesnt work (im sure it does work if you are prepared to screw around with the settings for long enough). What im saying is that it has nothing which sets it apart enough from the existing communication applications to be worth all this fuss.

[R-DEV]CodeRedFox wrote:Well that comment right there shows me you dont understand the pluses of this software. So you dont need to use it, move on.

While BF2 VOIP was good its been a huge problem for Project reality. Squads not being able to talk to each other, players right next to each other cant communicate. Commanders not passing info to squads. its just doesn't work for PR.

Mumble on the other hand its like giving us the abillity to mod the VOIP system. And that's the idea behind it.

[R-DEV]CodeRedFox wrote:Well that comment right there shows me you dont understand the pluses of this software. So you dont need to use it, move on.

While BF2 VOIP was good its been a huge problem for Project reality. Squads not being able to talk to each other, players right next to each other cant communicate. Commanders not passing info to squads. its just doesn't work for PR.

Mumble on the other hand its like giving us the abillity to mod the VOIP system. And that's the idea behind it.

Dr2B Rudd wrote:they were in teh iGi channel because T&T didn't have their own channel. but it was pretty annoying to hear all their chatting when we were loading a new map etc.

If you're unrevivable, waiting for respawn everyone in the channel can hear you all across the map.

crazyasian11 wrote:Um no, your avatar is still on the ground so your voice comes from there.

crazyasian11 wrote:Maybe you are playing with people using force center.

crazyasian11 wrote:Um no, your avatar is still on the ground so your voice comes from there.

[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:I'm actually pretty certain he's right crazy. When you're unrevivable, everybody can hear you because as far as BF2 (and hence Mumble) is concerned that body is no longer you.

Scot wrote:I find that when turned around, it mutes people too much. I mean, all i've done is turn around, it's not like I've run away from them... it does make for fun though, getting lost and faintly hearing your squad member running towards you, only to get run over by a bomb car...