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Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-04 18:32
by BlackwaterSaxon
archerfenris wrote:Actually behind my "Allahu Akbar" and "God is Great" comments in chat after I blow up a Humvee with an RPG is a real character. His name is Abdullah Wadi Al Tajer and he's a foreign Fighter in Iraq after leaving his family in Syria to answer the mandatory call of Jihad. Shame on you for judging so generally!
I hope you're taking the piss, because, that's pretty wrong, do you roleplay when you play as any other army? Just seems unnecessary and inappropriate considering current events.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 02:30
by archerfenris
BlackwaterSaxon wrote:I hope you're taking the piss, because, that's pretty wrong, do you roleplay when you play as any other army? Just seems unnecessary and inappropriate considering current events.
Well no, no it's really not inappropriate considering current events. Of course I really don't give a shit for political correction like some other Americans and most Europeans (not sure what they're pissy about, they're barely fighting in the war, most not at all. Plus they're the ones pissing ppl off with ridiculously offensive cartoons). I speak a little Arabic, know alot about that region so use my knowledge when I relax. Sorry if you're not so informed. Plus I do have name for other soldiers. I'm in the Army so I just RP as myself on the American side. And it's not like I really RP it's just cool to give my soldier a name and facts. The only reason I really have a name for my Insurgent nemesis is because my GF is arab and translated my western name into its arab equivelent. So since I had that name handy, boom. Plus Syria is the most aggressive arab country I could think of so, walla.

But then again I bet you're one of those who switches to bluefore every time you get the chance. Please refrain from shitting on people for having a good time. If you must be pissy, be pissy quietly. Those that actually put the time and effort to play a round through as insurgents get excited when they manage to take down an APC with RPGs or ambush an entire squad and kill them all with their PKM. Above all else chill and enjoy the game, that's all it is, a game.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 03:59
by BlackwaterSaxon
archerfenris wrote:Well no, no it's really not inappropriate considering current events. Of course I really don't give a shit for political correction like some other Americans and most Europeans (not sure what they're pissy about, they're barely fighting in the war, most not at all. Plus they're the ones pissing ppl off with ridiculously offensive cartoons). I speak a little Arabic, know alot about that region so use my knowledge when I relax. Sorry if you're not so informed. Plus I do have name for other soldiers. I'm in the Army so I just RP as myself on the American side. And it's not like I really RP it's just cool to give my soldier a name and facts. The only reason I really have a name for my Insurgent nemesis is because my GF is arab and translated my western name into its arab equivelent. So since I had that name handy, boom. Plus Syria is the most aggressive arab country I could think of so, walla.

But then again I bet you're one of those who switches to bluefore every time you get the chance. Please refrain from shitting on people for having a good time. If you must be pissy, be pissy quietly. Those that actually put the time and effort to play a round through as insurgents get excited when they manage to take down an APC with RPGs or ambush an entire squad and kill them all with their PKM. Above all else chill and enjoy the game, that's all it is, a game.
I like the way you jump to assuming that I must go BLUFOR all of time on insurgency, what you're basing this off I'm not sure as I've already stated that I prefer to play on the Insurgents side. Also, how was I shitting on anyone? This is a forum, I'm simply airing my opinion on those that do something which I feel is inappropriate, I wasn't aware that was a crime. Personally I'm looking forward to the next time I'm on BLUFOR, chance to make some American jokes, shoot a few friendlies and make banjo noises down the mic, just roleplaying of course, nothing wrong with that.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 07:05
by archerfenris
BlackwaterSaxon wrote:I like the way you jump to assuming that I must go BLUFOR all of time on insurgency, what you're basing this off I'm not sure as I've already stated that I prefer to play on the Insurgents side. Also, how was I shitting on anyone? This is a forum, I'm simply airing my opinion on those that do something which I feel is inappropriate, I wasn't aware that was a crime. Personally I'm looking forward to the next time I'm on BLUFOR, chance to make some American jokes, shoot a few friendlies and make banjo noises down the mic, just roleplaying of course, nothing wrong with that.
Ahh you see though, I obviously know more about Arabs than you do about Americans, so there lies your problem. However, I'm sure you see the difference as my guys name is NOT Muhammed dirka al Jihad. His name is Abdullah Wadi Al Tajer, a perfectly legitimate and original name. He left his family behind in Syria to take up martyrdom because he's brainwashed into thinking that's right. He also enjoys Falafel, playing football, and visiting relatives. Now If I'm being stereotypical at ALL please let me know where I faulted. And since my GF herself, an Arab muslim, sees it all as simply a game I really don't see why you're being so pissy about it. You've said it's inappropriate and I've assured you through the words of the minority in question, it's not. Case closed.

That being said I can see why you wouldn't want to take a position that might offend someone (you should inform the Danes on how to do this), but I really don't have to walk on eggshells as you do, Americans are used to a little more diversity than you guys are and we learn to get by without having to be so PC about things.

If you play alot on insurgent all well and good but what I do disapprove of is your pissy bad attitude. Some guys like to let out a "Allahu Akbar" every now and then. Get over it. It's real and far from stereotypical if you bother to go watch raw combat footage. When I'm American I make taunts to the insurgents as well. They're all jokes. Next time I play as Brits I'll make sure to RP as a really pissy British officer with bad teeth, breath of stale fish, and all he thinks of is how many tax breaks he gets as a noble. Cheerio good chum!

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 08:58
by kaufman_23
either side realy. if im in a relatively good squad that actualy works together

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 18:16
by soytam
I prefer insugent because mostly of my freinds can't speak english .WE could been a Dummy squad.
So all of us decide better don't bother and losing those BLUFOR assets.Play clam and listen to what the others said.
We get used to them.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 19:13
by BlackwaterSaxon
archerfenris wrote:Ahh you see though, I obviously know more about Arabs than you do about Americans, so there lies your problem. However, I'm sure you see the difference as my guys name is NOT Muhammed dirka al Jihad. His name is Abdullah Wadi Al Tajer, a perfectly legitimate and original name. He left his family behind in Syria to take up martyrdom because he's brainwashed into thinking that's right. He also enjoys Falafel, playing football, and visiting relatives. Now If I'm being stereotypical at ALL please let me know where I faulted. And since my GF herself, an Arab muslim, sees it all as simply a game I really don't see why you're being so pissy about it. You've said it's inappropriate and I've assured you through the words of the minority in question, it's not. Case closed.

That being said I can see why you wouldn't want to take a position that might offend someone (you should inform the Danes on how to do this), but I really don't have to walk on eggshells as you do, Americans are used to a little more diversity than you guys are and we learn to get by without having to be so PC about things.

If you play alot on insurgent all well and good but what I do disapprove of is your pissy bad attitude. Some guys like to let out a "Allahu Akbar" every now and then. Get over it. It's real and far from stereotypical if you bother to go watch raw combat footage. When I'm American I make taunts to the insurgents as well. They're all jokes. Next time I play as Brits I'll make sure to RP as a really pissy British officer with bad teeth, breath of stale fish, and all he thinks of is how many tax breaks he gets as a noble. Cheerio good chum!
To be honest, that's fine if you have a legitimate use for it, my main objection is "durka durka mohammed jihad" and other fairly poor bastardizations of the situation in the middle east. We can all drop the GF card down, my fiancee is American, and in your defence, she doesn't agree with me one bit, so :P , guess that's me screwed.

I don't see it as a pissy bad attitude, I'm just quick to get aggravated by immaturity on a game that in many cases has a very mature playerbase. Nice British stereotypes though, I've only ever heard the one about bad teeth, just one thing though, noble? We've moved on a bit since the middle ages you know.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 19:36
by archerfenris
BlackwaterSaxon wrote:To be honest, that's fine if you have a legitimate use for it, my main objection is "durka durka mohammed jihad" and other fairly poor bastardizations of the situation in the middle east. We can all drop the GF card down, my fiancee is American, and in your defence, she doesn't agree with me one bit, so :P , guess that's me screwed.

I don't see it as a pissy bad attitude, I'm just quick to get aggravated by immaturity on a game that in many cases has a very mature playerbase. Nice British stereotypes though, I've only ever heard the one about bad teeth, just one thing though, noble? We've moved on a bit since the middle ages you know.
Just firing back with equal stereotypes. But don't you have a house of lords run by nobles? So hardly moved on as much as you think. Okay I'll give you the "dirka dirka" thing (Though if you bother to watch the movie it comes from it's HILARIOUS), which actually is annoying and honestly is offensive. Interestingly enough knowing things about arabs, the slur "Hadjis" really isn't offensive since it's actually a word in Arabic used to call someone who is on their pilgrammage to Mecca, so despite its negative conotation is surprisingly unoffensive. Dirka dirka, however, is very...but I never do this.

It is a pissy attitude if you're bringing up racial/prejudice issues that wouldn't be brought up in the first place if you don't mention them. I've played with a few arab-muslim immigrants from Sweden who were a cool bunch of guys and I've never heard them complain once about the jokes. Now some of the jokes are offensive, but for the most part they're jokes about EXTREAMISTS and since moderate Arabs joke about extreamists themselves it's not a big deal. The only reason to take offensive would be if you support terrorists, and if they do I really don't care if they're offended. =P

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 19:55
by BlackwaterSaxon
archerfenris wrote:Just firing back with equal stereotypes. But don't you have a house of lords run by nobles? So hardly moved on as much as you think. Okay I'll give you the "dirka dirka" thing (Though if you bother to watch the movie it comes from it's HILARIOUS), which actually is annoying and honestly is offensive. Interestingly enough knowing things about arabs, the slur "Hadjis" really isn't offensive since it's actually a word in Arabic used to call someone who is on their pilgrammage to Mecca, so despite its negative conotation is surprisingly unoffensive. Dirka dirka, however, is very...but I never do this.

It is a pissy attitude if you're bringing up racial/prejudice issues that wouldn't be brought up in the first place if you don't mention them. I've played with a few arab-muslim immigrants from Sweden who were a cool bunch of guys and I've never heard them complain once about the jokes. Now some of the jokes are offensive, but for the most part they're jokes about EXTREAMISTS and since moderate Arabs joke about extreamists themselves it's not a big deal. The only reason to take offensive would be if you support terrorists, and if they do I really don't care if they're offended. =P
Well, they're lords, but they don't really run anything...it's difficult to explain, the word noble just conjures up images of chainmail clad men in surcoats drinking from goblets is all :P

I've seen Team America, but it's an old film now, and not necessarily what you'd call a classic, but I can understand where you're coming from. Over here at least the phrase "dirka dirka" has been heard by my personally against muslims, extremist or otherwise, and it does get on my nerves quite a bit. I wasn't aware arabs made jokes about extremists themselves, so there's something I've learned, but you must admit, when you're trying to organise something on the insurgents side and all you get back is "ah, dirka dirka mohammed jihad", it does get quite annoying after a while.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 20:07
by Bazul14
I usually play as insurgents because:
1-Its harder, any noob can stay in a tank/apc and fire at infantry
2-AKs
3-AKs
4-AKs and shotguns
5-IEDs
6-and because I like messing up/disproving stereotypes or preconceptions, such as AKs in BF2 suck at long range, Techies are **** against HUMVEEs, RPGs are aimlessor u can't kill a tank with them, M4 rocks at long distance.
7-and free mines.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-05 21:01
by Jman234
How about you girls stop talking about that and about sides on Insurgency. Anyways, I myself prefer Insurgents because I love just sitting on top of a small mountain and waiting with my cellphone out wating for HUMVEEs to roll by.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-06 14:46
by archerfenris
BlackwaterSaxon wrote:Well, they're lords, but they don't really run anything...it's difficult to explain, the word noble just conjures up images of chainmail clad men in surcoats drinking from goblets is all :P

I've seen Team America, but it's an old film now, and not necessarily what you'd call a classic, but I can understand where you're coming from. Over here at least the phrase "dirka dirka" has been heard by my personally against muslims, extremist or otherwise, and it does get on my nerves quite a bit. I wasn't aware arabs made jokes about extremists themselves, so there's something I've learned, but you must admit, when you're trying to organise something on the insurgents side and all you get back is "ah, dirka dirka mohammed jihad", it does get quite annoying after a while.
Nah. When I think of British nobles these days I think of ridiculously rich men who've done nothing to get that money, walking around in expensive suits and talking with their bottom lip (watch Family Guy). Ahhh Team America, such a funny movie. Yes Arabs do, in fact, have a sense of humor. My GF sometimes jokes (only with other arabs though, not in mixed company) that if they don't do what she wants she'll blow 'em up. But yes being a called a terrorist in more moderate Arab countries is a huge insult. But yes we are in agreement. If there are no hideouts built around the caches and you dickholes are running around saying stupid **** I'd get pissed off. Nothing angers me more than how 90% of people STILL cannot use an RPG properly.

But the name of my insurgent certainly adds a little flavor to the game. For example, last night I FINALLY got ahold of the artillery IED for the first time. Yay! Went to a busy road intersection and planted, then went down the road and waited, and waited, and waited. I'm a patient little jihadists, so it's not a problem. But then I think, because i have a laptop, my palm accidently taps my touch pad twicce...BOOOM! I'm also too close to the IED (They're much bigger than the old ones) and go black and white immediately. Totally fucked up and trying to stop the bleeding with a meer dressing Abdullah Wadi Al Tajer manages to make it back to his dirtbike before bleeding to death in in a very very painful manner. This shit is real, I've seen something similar happen on real footage. Just one less jihadist to worry about =P

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 00:42
by ebevan91
BLUFOR, I need scopes on my guns.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 01:51
by dcKarter
When I first started playing I preferred Insurgents, mainly because it was fun being naughty and sneaky. :D But when I came back for v0.9, I prefer BLUFOR alot more, driving around, going door to door, etc.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 04:46
by AdrwIvrsn
BLUFOR, because there is nothing more stupid but fun to run around in an insurgent's clothing and an RPG-7.

...Actually, the Molotov cocktail I find works great for BLUFOR, as it can contain enemies in a location while you send other squads or squad members safely around to flank them. This is especially true near caches. And for conventionally unconventional forces with better equipment like the Taliban, sometimes having an AK-47 gives you that extra punch in CQC than would an unscoped M16 or AK-74. (I think... I will assume that PR simulates the 7.62x39mm having greater energy than the smaller caliber 5.56x45mm at short ranges)

So maybe I can say both, as long as I am on BLUFOR with insurgent equipment. :razz:

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 05:14
by ***LeGeNDK1LLER***
AdrwIvrsn wrote:BLUFOR, because there is nothing more stupid but fun to run around in an insurgent's clothing and an RPG-7.

...Actually, the Molotov cocktail I find works great for BLUFOR, as it can contain enemies in a location while you send other squads or squad members safely around to flank them. This is especially true near caches. And for conventionally unconventional forces with better equipment like the Taliban, sometimes having an AK-47 gives you that extra punch in CQC than would an unscoped M16 or AK-74. (I think... I will assume that PR simulates the 7.62x39mm having greater energy than the smaller caliber 5.56x45mm at short ranges)

So maybe I can say both, as long as I am on BLUFOR with insurgent equipment. :razz:
mmm prepare yourself to be teamkilled...since sometimes if you are just thinking to grab an enemy kit you get shoot from friendlies :shock: :shock: .

jeees guys check your fire!

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 05:35
by archerfenris
***LeGeNDK1LLER*** wrote:mmm prepare yourself to be teamkilled...since sometimes if you are just thinking to grab an enemy kit you get shoot from friendlies :shock: :shock: .

jeees guys check your fire!
If you have an enemy kit you're asking for it. Stick with your own kits.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 05:49
by AdrwIvrsn
Typically I don't switch kits unless I'm with my squad. I won't try to lonewolf when I already said Molotov cocktails are great for squad maneuvers and of the said teamkilling.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 12:18
by Damian(>>>PL
INS, I need only Arty IED, and much of ammunition, I dont need anytching else.

Re: Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

Posted: 2010-05-08 14:31
by dtacs
AK-47 and I'm good. Greatest gun in PR and you can destroy the BLUFOR with it tbh, love Insurgents.