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Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-25 09:21
by mrjoe(ita)
Server feedback is the cure for cancerous servers, however it seems PRTA has developed immunity over it.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-25 15:10
by mectus11
Played 2 days ago on the server, here's my feedback from those rounds.

I joined on Sbeneh Outskirts INS ALT, which is not a fun map to play with the new changes and was a frustrating game but somehow we were close to winning with them being left with 28 tickets, I also noticed how admins like to jump the gun with afk kicking to get their own friends in as our friend was connecting and he got kicked for that reason.

Then they ran Soul Rebel AAS which is a good map, no complaints there had a fun round. The map after though was another insurgency map which didn't make sense to me, you just ran insurgency a map ago? Is there any process on how you choose maps to set? We have a bunch of good AAS maps but setting INS -> AAS -> INS makes no sense as it was played a map ago and people that saw that left the server and it nearly died because of bad map choices.

I played three rounds so I probably didn't get to see much on the admin abuse side of things, I was too busy re-learning the gun mechanics again since I haven't touched PR since the gun changes.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 10:34
by DogACTUAL
So many edgelords in this thread. Regardless of the accusations being true or not, everything PRTA gets accused of here i witnessed on other servers too.
We have a bunch of good AAS maps but setting INS -> AAS -> INS makes no sense as it was played a map ago
Seriously? Every server does that from time to time. Are you implying that INS doesn't deserve to be played as often as AAS? I bet if they only ran AAS then there would be complaints about how there is no variety on their server. Btw this is coming from someone who prefers AAS himself.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 11:21
by Heavy Death
Usually its run aas-ins-ins-aas so both sides get blufor.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 15:59
by Tit4Tat
DogACTUAL wrote: everything PRTA gets accused of here i witnessed on other servers too..
Don't know how many servers you played on, bit it sure doesn'.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 17:14
by mrjoe(ita)
I have actually had a good round, responsive and good admins. It seems you have a couple of brain dead admins which spoils everything. If only you would allow the Admin command so I could see how did the job right this time...

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 18:29
by DogACTUAL
Don't know how many servers you played on
Let's just say that there is a server out there that bans you just for criticizing its admins in its own server feedback thread on this website. With the reasoning that if you don't like the way they operate or disagree with the admin's decision you have no business being on their server. For this reason i will not name the server in question.

Does PRTA ban all of you from their game servers for critizing them, sometimes even with with (borderline) insults?

Does PRTA never, and i mean never admit any wrongdoing on their part?

That's what i don't get here, every critizism you throw at PRTA you could throw at any server out there.
You are hypocrites if you only attack PRTA. Don't tell me PRTA is the worst offender, i think there is a worse one out there. The fact is that every server community that lasts long enough will get some bad admins eventually.

Things that happened on other servers:

I got kicked from BASED quite a few times for what i can only assume was to make room for community members or friends. When i asked why they gave no straight answer.

I got kicked and tempbanned for just reporting something trivial, because the offender was friends with the admin. Happened a few times on different servers.

I got banned for weeks because of false reports made by friends of an admin in an attempt to troll me, for just one accidental tk while they tked me twice on purpose.

I got banned because 2 of the more vocal PRTA critics in this thread falsely reported me for ghosting because i switched teams right before the round ended to try out an aa cannon (after those specific 2 people made me aware in allchat that the cannon was buffed in the recent update).

I even made my intentions clear in allchat so there would be no misunderstanding as to why i switched, but that only made them aware that i switched and used it against me by reporting me anyways (was after an update when the cannon was buffed and i got shot down from max VD, wanted to see how OP the cannon was before the round ended). Most ridiculous ban i ever received. But i got over it and have nothing against those 2 guys now, maybe some people here should let go of their anger too?

I reported clear offenders and trolls but they went unpunished while other people got punished for for trivial reasons.

I saw a lot of nepotism happening on servers between admins and their friends.

I know of two proven cheaters that are still allowed to play on certain servers, most likely because they are friends with the administration. One of them is even an admin on the server IIRC. No i am not talking about chav.

Most of what i just listed i saw happening not only to me, but to other people aswell.
Ironically PRTA is the server i encountered the least problems on, but that's just my experience.

So my view: Blaming HOG for everything that is wrong with the PR community came out of fashion.
Now PRTA is responsible for everything that is wrong in the PR community in the eyes of the lynch mob.

Maybe you should report and fight injustice wherever you see it and not just focus on a single server, because i know there are a lot of other offenders out there.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 18:49
by viirusiiseli
DogACTUAL wrote:I know of two proven cheaters that are still allowed to play on certain servers, most likely because they are friends with the administration
Biased administration? Not in PR!

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-26 23:34
by Tit4Tat
Dogactual, go read feedback from let's say my clans server or the old skool servers. There is no comparison. It's a shame that after all these years this is what's left out of all the servers. I love PR, but seeing prspy and wanting to play, only to go ' fuk that' when I see the list of seeded servers.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 02:42
by Jevski
In the US in 2011 there was 32,479 fatal car accidents. In Japan there was 4,612 same year.

Using your logic Tit, Americans cant drive.

Now if you instead compare it per population, the picture is quite different.

Same with MERK and PRTA. One is rarely populated, the other is full every day.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 05:49
by Sandepp
Jevski wrote:In the US in 2011 there was 32,479 fatal car accidents. In Japan there was 4,612 same year.

Using your logic Tit, Americans cant drive.

Now if you instead compare it per population, the picture is quite different.

Same with MERK and PRTA. One is rarely populated, the other is full every day.
Still doesn't change the fact that both HOG and PRTA are both shitty servers that doesn't care about quality and bans people for no reason.
By your logic if server population is the only parameter of a quality server then Mcdonald's must be the world's most premium restaurant.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 08:21
by Jamaican
From what i seen they took too long in banning some players. They were always causing **** on server arguing with admins to cause problems. Thank god we dont have to play with some of them no more. As we join to play PR not watch these guys act like investigators inspecting and recording admins.

Too much negativity in PR from a certain crowd, they carry on and they will kill it.

Never had a problem with prta, but then i only join to play PR, i dont join to argue with admins and cause problems.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 10:24
by DesertFox284
Jamaican wrote: Never had a problem with prta, but then i only join to play PR, i dont join to argue with admins and cause problems.
So, if you join PRTA and get tempbanned for breaking a non existing rule without warning, you will be ok with that? If you get your squad resigned and taken by an admin because it's names Armor instead of Armour, you will be ok with that? If you want a switch to the other team to play with your friends, then admins ignore you or say no switching when teams are even then they switch their friend 5 seconds later, you will be ok with that?

Because all those things happened, on this server and this server only.

Just because you weren't wronged by them it does not mean someone else wasn't. And those who were banned were banned because they complained about them being wronged by the administration of PRTA. Of course, their complaints were ignored and/or censored so they pushed on, you know the outcome.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 11:03
by Jamaican
What im saying is ive been on server when some of those others who complain have been on, and i have seen the txt they type out obviously aimed at admins and prta in general, So no they are not innocent players being bullied by abusive admins they deserved what ever punishment was handed out.

You go into someones house and piss on the floor, dont complain when they kick you out

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 12:01
by exel82
Jamaican wrote:What im saying is ive been on server when some of those others who complain have been on, and i have seen the txt they type out obviously aimed at admins and prta in general, So no they are not innocent players being bullied by abusive admins they deserved what ever punishment was handed out.

You go into someones house and piss on the floor, dont complain when they kick you out
Admin Report - Admin `!admins`.split(" ")[0] reported by Liam | Page 2 | PRTA - Project Reality Teamwork Alliance Admins blatantly lying... until Ghost (Was one of the only reasonable admins on PRTA, who for some reason has been removed or resigned from the admin team) steps in: https://gyazo.com/7e9faa5ad1038943403f296575b0da69

Closed - Admin How should i know? reported by Mats391 | PRTA - Project Reality Teamwork Alliance
Another example of PRTA administration blatantly lying and also an example of their admins double morals regarding rules such as the freekit rule (2.3). And if you look at 7.2 all the rules apply to admins aswell, still some admins abuse their position and pressure players by making up rules or by misinterpreting the rules. Also regarding misinterpretation of rules. Some of the admins aren't very good at english and frequently misinterpret the rules either by mistake or intentionally.

This isn't about making up admin abuses, the evidence is there (until it's removed lol). This about genuine reports of admin abuse and getting banned for reporting admins.

Edit: Also reporting admins and using common sense on the server is regarded as disruptive behaviour: https://gyazo.com/58c3efe5b6b53f79d193282c79a837a7

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 13:20
by __Super_6__5__
the game is dying and you all are trying to blame the servers for it. Its not the servers. At this moment, around the entire planet, there are 409 players playing this game, its in its death throws

Posted: 2017-05-27 13:39
by AfterDune
Which still is a really good number. It's been like that for ages too by the way. Only around major releases does playercount go way up, otherwise it's pretty much like this.

Also, the "PR is dying" comment is almost as old as PR itself...

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 17:53
by Jevski
Sandepp wrote:Still doesn't change the fact that both HOG and PRTA are both shitty servers that doesn't care about quality and bans people for no reason.
By your logic if server population is the only parameter of a quality server then Mcdonald's must be the world's most premium restaurant.

Yeah, its not like you have an agenda. Ive seen the Based whinebox where you all sit and bash PRTA. Almost every server is shit yet your own remains empty most days.

And its clear you didnt understand anything in my post.

Lets try this another way.

10 out of 10 says you have trouble understanding simple things. Thats are 100 % out of 10 who have that opinion

100 out of 1000 says you have an IQ higher than 160 - thats 10% who think so.

Now according to you, the 10 are right because, the 100% is higher than the 10%

As to Mcdonalds, then yes its a very popular FAST FOOD restaurant. What is is not is a four star michelin restaurant. That is what you dont get. You cant compare an apple with a bananna, and then say the apple has a wrong colour.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 18:33
by Vista
Jevski, how can people be biased if they are citing specific issues with proof?

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-05-27 19:49
by Sandepp
Jevski wrote:Yeah, its not like you have an agenda. Ive seen the Based whinebox where you all sit and bash PRTA. Almost every server is shit yet your own remains empty most days.

And its clear you didnt understand anything in my post.

Lets try this another way.

10 out of 10 says you have trouble understanding simple things. Thats are 100 % out of 10 who have that opinion

100 out of 1000 says you have an IQ higher than 160 - thats 10% who think so.

Now according to you, the 10 are right because, the 100% is higher than the 10%

As to Mcdonalds, then yes its a very popular FAST FOOD restaurant. What is is not is a four star michelin restaurant. That is what you dont get. You cant compare an apple with a bananna, and then say the apple has a wrong colour.
Ok then lets go by your logic. BASED Feedback thread has 124 posts and less than 5% of the posts are complaints and most of them are about map balance.
PRTA on the other hand has 416 posts as feedback with one of the feedback thread getting closing down due to them not able to take criticism. They have at least 75% of the posts talking about bad admins and admin abuse. So tell me who is wrong in this situation. Do you think all the people complaining here have an agenda including Mats who is a dev?

And no you can't use server popularity as an excuse for having bad rounds and admin abuse. This is not some random noise that increases with sample size. This is very deliberate admin abuse that will happen even if the server gets populated rarely.