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Don't really mean to get involved, but guys, reality check, please. Why should anyone give a flying fuck about what happens on "other servers"? As far as I can see people are raising complaints about problems on your server and are being ignored or criminalized for it. This should be raising red flags for any server leadership regardless of what happens on "other servers".

The concerns are either valid, or they are not. Either way, just address them properly and get on with it. You have logs, you have videos, there are plenty of evidence to find out what really happened in most cases. Trying to shove stuff under the rug and calling people names will hardly help anyone on the long run. :/

Based has been seeded only a few times in May I belive. So thats not a fair way to compare the two, not to mention, you and probably quite a few from BASED and friends have hated PRTA since 9/14 and wanted it to die. Clearly you can see that since its not dying that might upset some people who was hoping that 9/14 would be the end of PRTA.

And as such I can understand if PRTA decides to disregard alot of feedback that seem to be related to that, or due to it have been scorned so bad that they simply don't feel like dealing with you since its more effor than its worth. As it stands you guys decided to make your own community/server, and yet you wish to put pressure on PRTA to change even if you have all these alternatives..

Admin abuse or not, the community bashing goes both ways, although PRTA is just removing you from their home, as is their right. And seemingly your inability to make friends with the admin team, work with them to seed their server and similarly join their events is evidence that when you join their server, you are the least valuable and seemingly someone who is looking for a fight.

I bet that out of the 20 or so matches that PRTA has per day, they make 1 major mistake, which is then reported on the forum.. And seeing again how you guys just seem to have this vendetta against them, I can't blame them for closing a few threads, and unapproving others. If you want to change this situation, then you have to make friends with them, which will be benefitial for the whole PR community.

Make an effort to make this community great, don't sit in your channels feeding eachothers disdain for PRTA by sharing your negative comments and experiences. If you want to see real change in a community that is driven by volonteers and even people putting their money into their projects you need to go above just complaints and discussing how you can remove PRTAs license.

Engage with them put in time to make PRTA great by coordinating events, helping them do more and better things. This way you do not come across as an attacker when you give feedback, but instead as someone who genuinly wishes to help.

Wicca wrote:Based has been seeded only a few times in May I belive. So thats not a fair way to compare the two, not to mention, you and probably quite a few from BASED and friends have hated PRTA since 9/14 and wanted it to die. Clearly you can see that since its not dying that might upset some people who was hoping that 9/14 would be the end of PRTA.

With all due respect mate, im not part of Based,I have nothing to do with based yet I have been the victim of abuse by PRTA admins " [BB] ArkUTD being the main culprit,and PRTA's biggest donor hint hint" more than once to the point where me nor my clan will never play there again. As my reports have shown nothing has been delt with,sorted nor looked into. It is a complete closed door attitude which itself goes against everything the PR community stands for.
I actually got a little abuse from a PRTA guy "[BB] clayton" on PRTA shoutbox telling me how shit I am purely through my reports of admin abuse.

Give me one good reason why I myself,or my clan should help someone or a clan that shows absolutely no respect for anyone who plays on this server.

Sorry mate respect needs to be earnt,but can be lost in seconds... the later being PRTA.

You would be right Wicca if only 914 people would try drama here BUT 2/3 of the people complaining in this thread (even the creator) are not part of Based.

Also a new generation who had nothing to do with 914 took over most positions on PRTA (mainly BB, A-, IL)

It looks like no one trained them or gives them feedback when they make huge mistakes inside PRTA.
I dont know why Tobi & Sloan accept this... Would be pretty nice to hear their story about all the happenings!

Wait, is chav still admining in PRTA? Wasn't he perma banned for cheating?

Mouthpiece wrote:Wait, is chav still admining in PRTA? Wasn't he perma banned for cheating?

Banned for "glitching", he posted a video where he had no fog on and increased viewdistance. But if you look at inspektura's videos on chav you can clearly see that is was not "glitching" or using hacks to increase viewdistance and remove fog. From the videos you can clearly see that he had wallhack on.

BB is not new, nor is IL, they are offsprings from Foxtrot. But regardless if you are all set in your oppinions and such there is no way this situation will change, and we will just see a perpetual issue of you complaining here, and PRTA running a server. They wont care if you dont try to make amends.

Maybe you guys love to complain

Im out!

Wicca wrote: Maybe you guys love to complain

>People are complaining because their solid reports of admin abuse WITH PROOF are being ignored and they're being banned off the server for making those valid reports

>'LUL KEEP COMPLAINING UR JUST BIASED XDDDDDDD'

Please keep your trash posts to yourself.

Giving feedback, criticizing, complaining etc is all good for it's own purpose but PRTA will remain the most populated EU server nonetheless, either you start growing your own competition or you keep recycling what everyone has already said in this thread.

Competition is healthy and PRTA has little to none competition when it comes to EU servers and they know this, they're banking on that fact that makes them basically untouchable for now.

Either you start your own competition or start seeding other servers in protest/boycott to them or you might aswell shut up, take it in the *** and play on their server.

There's nothing left to say anymore, it's all recycling eachothers words by now.

mectus11 wrote:Giving feedback, criticizing, complaining etc is all good for it's own purpose but PRTA will remain the most populated EU server nonetheless, either you start growing your own competition or you keep recycling what everyone has already said in this thread.

Competition is healthy and PRTA has little to none competition when it comes to EU servers and they know this, they're banking on that fact that makes them basically untouchable for now.

Either you start your own competition or start seeding other servers in protest/boycott to them or you might aswell shut up, take it in the *** and play on their server.

There's nothing left to say anymore, it's all recycling eachothers words by now.

Blame it on other servers running fallujah to seed and everybody sitting afk in it rather than set a skirmish map and play it until the population increases. I love MERK's server coz they don't give two shits about what other servers are running and just set a skirmish map to play when the server pop is low.
My default reaction when I see a server with 4 players on it and running on fallujah is to let someone else seed it and let it get to playable levels while I play on some seeded NA server.

Sandepp wrote:Blame it on other servers running fallujah to seed and everybody sitting afk in it rather than set a skirmish map and play it until the population increases. I love MERK's server coz they don't give two shits about what other servers are running and just set a skirmish map to play when the server pop is low.
My default reaction when I see a server with 4 players on it and running on fallujah is to let someone else seed it and let it get to playable levels while I play on some seeded NA server.

You say that but not everyone shares that sentiment as is obvious, a lot of people here that wrote their feedback keep playing on PRTA or other servers that run Fallujah West INS, I'm also part of the problem myself too as I'm forced to play on their server because no other EU server is up at the time, I'd love to play on any other servers that run skirmish maps.

Skirmish maps are fun to play, it's just a damn shame that people love to shit on things and not provide solutions and even actively pursue to try to fix things.

Surely it's not hard to round up 8-10 people that want to play PR and seed not on a damn map that's more overused than Vista's memes.

The current majority of PR players (during seeding time) does not like to play skirmish. which means (sadly) a skirmish map will never get seeded. Period.

The average PR player traits have changed, nowadays they rather drive around with a civi car and scream Allauh Akbar and generally troll, this is why Falluja is perfect for them, and perfect for the ones that want the server seeded

Jevski wrote:In the US in 2011 there was 32,479 fatal car accidents. In Japan there was 4,612 same year.

Using your logic Tit, Americans cant drive.

US Pop: 300m
JP Pop: 125m

Ratio: 2.4:1->~13k:4.6k or, if you want to put it differently, 13k per 125m inhabitants.
40 million Americans produce the same fatality ratio as 125 million Japanese, making it a 3:1 ratio.

Done without a calculator.

->Conclusion I: Americans can't drive.
->Conclusion II: Your example sucks.

His specific analogy might be a bit shit but his line of thought is valid. Assuming everything else is equal, a server that is seeded less will have less reports than a server seeded more often.

There are a lot of other factors that minimise the applicability of the argument though; such as there being a demonstrable difference in quality of administration, both low-end and high-end, between PRTA and other servers.

Note tho that Jevski is 100% just baiting and fuckin with people in this thread

pls switch clan mates together after you scramble the teams

pls just don't scramble it is not an effective way of balancing teams

mectus11 wrote:Either you start your own competition or start seeding other servers in protest/boycott to them or you might aswell shut up, take it in the *** and play on their server.

The fucking pope has spoken! //thread

All the complainers in here (which are one and the same), have their own servers/communities that could be easily used to take players from PRTA, hell even if they step together and just seed ONE of their servers it would make an impact. But no, QQ al the way.

Heavy Death wrote:The fucking pope has spoken! //thread

All the complainers in here (which are one and the same), have their own servers/communities that could be easily used to take players from PRTA, hell even if they step together and just seed ONE of their servers it would make an impact. But no, QQ al the way.

Fuck yeah! Let's just ignore all the reports of admin abuse!

Heavy Death wrote:All the complainers in here (which are one and the same), have their own servers/communities that could be easily used to take players from PRTA, hell even if they step together and just seed ONE of their servers it would make an impact. But no, QQ al the way.

I usually don't try to be a **** but..are you fucking dense?

There multiple accounts of people IN THIS THREAD, providing constructive feedback, yet problems persist.

Yes, what mectus said is still true. Yes, some people here do like drama and/or have a negative history with PRTA. That doesn't matter if the feedback is on point.