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zangoo wrote:so i see no reason to switch to it in 0.8.

also the brit army is upgrading their l115 rifles. they are adding

Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PM II LP telescopic sights;
Suppressors to reduce the flash and noise signature;
Folding stocks for better carrying in a backpack;
Adjustable cheek pieces for more comfort and better eye alignment with the telescopic sight;
Butt spikes to aid stability during firing;
Adjustable bipods, which differ from the original Accuracy International bipod;
5 round box magazines.

this is happening in spring of 2008, so i really think it should be in pr.

so really with those changes the only ones we would put in pr are

Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PM II LP telescopic sights;
Suppressors to reduce the flash and noise signature;
5 round box magazines.

people will say that the brits having a sniper with 25x zoom and a suppressor will be un fair. i think it wouldnt matter, a sniper with 25x zoom would only be good for very long range shots under that the player would have to move the mouse a huge amount and that would make the deviation go up and well you got the point. the suppressor will only make the gun shot more quiet not the bullet so it wont be some L337 gun.

the source is wiki and i checked wikis source it is
Ministry of Defence | Defence News | Equipment and Logistics | Snipers to get new longer range rifles

Jonny wrote:How big is the difference between 100m and 2000m? Thats the important bit.

Also, if there is a difference we need to know if it does actually affect the bullets. It should, but then this is the BF2 engine. That height may just affect vehicles.

KP wrote:Correct, but that makes the rifle the L115A3, and that would make a completely new model necessary. So I suggest you stick with the A1.

zangoo wrote:why? to change the scope you would just need to change 1 number, to add asuppressor you could just add a template to it that looks like a silencer and add new sounds.


edit:i have been thinking about deviation and right now cus we dont have breathing each sniper has the same devation, but this isnt real. so currently the m40a3 has no deviation after it has been still, i think everyone is fine with this, but i think that we should add the guns moa to this, this would make each gun diffrent and i feel that it would add a little more to pr.

KP wrote:Actually, the bipod is different, according to what was posted, and adding or taking away stuff means new UVs and textures are needed, and the same goes for the foldable buttstock.

As for deviation, I believe both the L115 and M40A3 are sub-MOA (about .5 MOA, I think).The SSG is .5-1 MOA. The L96 is roughly .5-.8 MOA.

All of these numbers I've read on the Internet somewhere, but I can't really find the sources right now. Point is, the accuracy of the rifles is pretty much the same, and in all cases below 1 MOA.

Jonny wrote:I am against a set distance because the guns have different muzzle velocities, and so different rates of loosing their momentum.

Jonny wrote: These are all things I want the damage system to reflect and are easy to find and also easy to understand, if your gun is zeroed to a certain distance then you know its only 75% as effective if we use the 0.5*damage method, and that it still drops beyond that.

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