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I would have to say Blufor, During insurgency maps I find Blufor more organized and I just simply cannot play Project Reality without using teamwork, I find it boring and old. All and All I dislike insurgency because theres a lot of down time, where your aimlessly looking for a cache until you can get intelligence(red square maker) I'm the type of Squad Leader that wants to always be moving, always doing something. In Assault and Secure, I can do that, theres always somewhere you need to be. Thats just me though, then you have the bunch that sit in main all game. -_-

Smash wrote:Insurgent = someone who has taken up arms against enemy

Haji = Any brown/Arabic/non-white/non-American etc

It's really just a demonizing term that reduces regular non-insurgent people into objects to be killed because they are *only* hajis, not people with feelings or family members, etc.

Maybe go join the KKK so you don't have to limit your racist hate to "just hadjis"

Back on topic:

It's more fun to play as OPFOR when the BLUFOR is more organized, moving in convoys, using medics, etc.

Sitting on Archer with an RPG cover a road to the known cache is boring when the Canadians are all sitting at the castle.

Guys, can we keep this on topic? It isn't about what Haji means its about your preferred team. Personally I dont see why you guys care if someone calls you a "haji" its a game get over it.

well of course they side im on when the map starts. but i always prefer insurgents because of the lovly enfield, theres nothing more satisfing killing modern soldiers with state of the art automatic rifles, with an enfield

I defently prefer the Blufor, most of the time its US, for me its just the feeling of being what you wanna be.
But for example, when there is this maplist, and it looks like this Asad Khal - Ramiel - and another map then I prefer to be on the insurgent team, so I am gonna be on the US team in Ramiel, its my tactic

Playing on the BLUFOR with a sucky team (=regular public server team) is just too much of a pain in the ***. People keep spawning when there is a medic right next to them. They don't use mumble, they don't read chat, they don't drop you supplies (even if they're waiting in the base).

Long story short: Playing on insurgency is much more relaxing since there is little need for the teamwork.

i prefer insurgents on basrah (setting ambushes and arty IEDs is fun) and Ramiel (sp). I prefer BLUFOR on karbala and lakshar. Korengal has been ruined so i dont even play it. The Israeli maps i can go for either team since teamwork is more prevalent when you have non-soviet guns for some reason lol.

On Ramiel i find it to be way to stressful to play as the US since most of the time the insurgent team is smart enough to stay in the city and not get picked off by FOB defenses forcing the US team to search for caches the hard way. Once you fire a shot in the city as the US you just get swarmed on all sides. ive yet to play a match where even the medic has had time to drop his gun and get someone up. You always have to be on the move and looking in every direction; to often a secure position becomes a death trap. For me its a little much, especially when i just wanna relax after work.

Well it depends to some extend on the map and teamwork but basically i'd say its more satisfying to be successful with the insurgents. recently i did play on archer and we were down to one cache which was in the most north eastern village in the small valley. the canadians attacked over and over again with chinooks landing and dropping troops all the time which were greeted with lots of gun-fire as soon as they exited the choppers. kind of operation anaconda or something. in the end we even won.

Don't remember if I posted why I prefer BLUFOR, but it's because I need scoped weapons, I'm terrible with unscoped weapons.

I like BLUFOR for the tactics and armour, but also like REDFOR for the feeling and ambushes.

Always the Opfor, why? Because when the round starts, take a truck, go to the end of the city or some not so public place and wait for enemy helis to fly by, its very much fun to shoot down unsuspecting appaches after some time they stop using air assets and opfor win just because of that.

love playing insurgents setting up ambushs and killing off those wanna be rambos fun as fun can be after a long day at work

I love insurgets just because i dont have to worry about my k/d r

Insurgency, but not for killing *rambos* however this can be very fun as well.

Nope, I love insurgency because it packs more challenge, and alot more sense of victory when you manage to get a good team going.

I mean its not that hard to find a squad of navy seal, special forces Bluefor going in like they professionals, pretty much any kid whos seen an action movie loves to do that (me included)

But try making a squad, or 2 or 3, in insurgents, working together and communicating like the future of the nation depended on it. Helping each other out to the death, willing to sacrifice for victory. Setting out grandiose ambushes and planning extraordinary attacks, against all odds. AND coming out on top of it.

Now thats what moves me

I remember when I first got into PR, (or BF42 Desert Combat) Not many people were into insurgency or insurgency tactics. However the more I played with patience, playing my cards right, and ended up getting amazing massive kills or stylish attacks, yelling allaaaaaaahu akbarrrrr and making the other side so angry it would have put to shame the Counter-Strike kid (remember that video lol). More and more people started to join me and discovered a totally new style of gaming. Challenging and motivating at the same time.

The goal? Having fun.

i like both
but i think it all depends on how good your team is
if it is
then you'll enjoy both sides

One of the best war movies ever, The beast of war. Check it out its worth finding it, its about a russian tank crew in Afghanistan, its one of those war movies who passed the time barrier. The explosions and layout is very well done and realistic for the 80s.

Anyways, Theres a great scene of dialog in the movie between the commander and the driver of the tank whos a bit rebel. While they are removing a cook-off shell (shell that didnt go off properly)

[Koverchenko and Daskal are in the tank removing a dud shell from the cannon breech]

Daskal: Just tell me one thing; why do you stick up for the Afghan?
Koverchenko: Because he's doing the best he can, sir.
Daskal: That's what worries me.

[he then opens the cannon breech as the dud shell falls out into Koverchenko's arms]

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Lots of other good quotes from that movie,

(Helicopter sees distress signal and lands, crew gets inside helicopter)

Daskal: Get back in the tank.
Kaminski: What for?
Daskal: Because I said so.
Golikov: We're going home, sir.
Daskal: Yeah. In the tank.
Kaminski: Why can't we go home in the f***ing helicopter!!!?
Daskal: Because you're tankers.

[Golikov and Kaminski are walking back to the tank carrying fuel cans from the helicopter as Daskal watches them from behind the tank's machine gun]

Golikov: What are we doing? Why don't we make a run for it?
Kaminski: Are you crazy? He'd shoot us right out of the sky!

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[the tank is incapacitated. Daskal hands out a grenade to Kaminski and Golikov]

Daskal: You know our standing orders.
Kaminski: What?
Daskal: Out of commission, become a pillbox. Out of ammo, become a bunker. Out of time, become heroes.
Kaminski: You must be out of your f***ing mind!!
[He tosses his grenade aside]
Daskal: Now. Together.

[Daskal pulls the grenade pin and crew jumps him]

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Koverchenko: Well, sir, the roadwheel's cracked. Kaminski drank our brakes. We're low on petrol. The battery's low. We're losing oil. If the engine heats up it's gonna seize. The terrain, obviously against us. We have no rations. The Mujas behind us don't seem to run on rations, petrol, or anything we know of. And they have an RPG. Their aim is getting better. Sir.

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Amazing movie

Generally blueforce because it used to be more of a challenge, but now an well organized team wins with more tickets than it started with, or almost break even and a disorganized team can still get away with winning the game.

Winning as BLUFOR is dead easy on Insurgency because of:

- all the ghosting/team switching that quickly reveals the cache location - something that's rife amongst INS servers.
- BLUFOR has armour that simply spam shoots at the cache building general area from afar and the resultant splash damage is enough to take down the cache - infantry rarely move in do the job as is done in "real life" *gasp*
- BLUFOR has littlebird choppers that simply spam shoots at the cache building general area from afar and the resultant splash damage is enough to take down the cache
- BLUFOR has long range TOW missiles at FOBs that simply spam shoots at the cache building general area from afar and the resultant splash damage is enough to take down the cache.
- BLUFOR has UAV that - combined with the fact that insurgents cannot hide their "hideouts" and thus the only ones built are in the open - can easily spot hideouts and in some cases the cache itself because DEVs sometimes have the cache spawn in the open such as in a field, in-between buildings, or on a building rooftop - same applies to choppers flying over the possible cache area and easily spotting it from above.
- the caches regularly spawn RIGHT NEXT to the previous cache location, as in 50m away, and because the area is allready crawling with BLUFOR it's impossible not to stumble onto it and take it out.


Looks like this trend will continue with PR ARMA2:
"CI is based on the PR:BF2 Insurgency mode, where BLUFOR have to find and destroy the enemy's ammo caches.
However in PR:ArmA2 we have added some new features, like gathering information from dead or captured insurgents to reveal ammo cache positions. Insurgents will know also know all the ammo cache locations [which means the BLUFOR will also certainly know most if not all of the cache locations] but they will not know which one has been revealed to BLUFOR. This opens a battle up to strategic chase play and will be an even more deadly [even more deadly for insurgents] game of cat and mouse."

IEDExpert102 wrote:Winning as BLUFOR is dead easy on Insurgency because of:

- all the ghosting/team switching that quickly reveals the cache location - something that's rife amongst INS servers.
- BLUFOR has armour that simply spam shoots at the cache building general area from afar and the resultant splash damage is enough to take down the cache - infantry rarely move in do the job as is done in "real life" *gasp*
- BLUFOR has littlebird choppers that simply spam shoots at the cache building general area from afar and the resultant splash damage is enough to take down the cache
- BLUFOR has long range TOW missiles at FOBs that simply spam shoots at the cache building general area from afar and the resultant splash damage is enough to take down the cache.
- BLUFOR has UAV that - combined with the fact that insurgents cannot hide their "hideouts" and thus the only ones built are in the open - can easily spot hideouts and in some cases the cache itself because DEVs sometimes have the cache spawn in the open such as in a field, in-between buildings, or on a building rooftop - same applies to choppers flying over the possible cache area and easily spotting it from above.
- the caches regularly spawn RIGHT NEXT to the previous cache location, as in 50m away, and because the area is allready crawling with BLUFOR it's impossible not to stumble onto it and take it out.


Looks like this trend will continue with PR ARMA2:
"CI is based on the PR:BF2 Insurgency mode, where BLUFOR have to find and destroy the enemy's ammo caches.
However in PR:ArmA2 we have added some new features, like gathering information from dead or captured insurgents to reveal ammo cache positions. Insurgents will know also know all the ammo cache locations [which means the BLUFOR will also certainly know most if not all of the cache locations] but they will not know which one has been revealed to BLUFOR. This opens a battle up to strategic chase play and will be an even more deadly [even more deadly for insurgents] game of cat and mouse."

1-Destroy Armors via IED, RPG and MINES.
2-Destroy Aircrafts via .50 and AA missile.
3-Concentrate on killing enemy, not defending cache. Having 7 caches wont make the BlueFor tickets hit 0. Killing assets and as many soldiers as possible will.
4-Stay away from the cache once you have what you need.
5-Ambush access roads to the cache.

Its funny to see so much frustration over things that normal run away from me and my boys when we play. lol.

When Johnny plays the Tank is sh**less scared of coming out. When a little bird flies around he is IMMEDIATLY chased by 2 technicals, and has to run away from the tracers.

When intel is received about a cache, 9 times outta 10 johnny is already waiting around with a multiple IED ambush.

Cheer up mate its really not that bad. Just gotta get a better team going. Also devlop your sense of strategy. Play your cards right. Bleed the enemy tickets. I cannot even remember how many games Weve won as insurgents, ending the round by shooting a chopper or a tank or stryker.

Sounds like johnny isn't playing against very good teams if their armor is close enough to hit with rpgs.

SpungE wrote:Sounds like johnny isn't playing against very good teams if their armor is close enough to hit with rpgs.

Sounds like you been playing dipsh*t insurgents if your APCs or Light armors never get hit by RPGs.

*1-Destroy Armors via IED, RPG and MINES.*

The idea as an insurgent is to choose the battlefield.

Your armor has no CLUE were we gonna hit it. Hence, cannot decide where to be far enough.

P.S: The term Armor doesnt specificly mean tank. Heavy armor does.

Most Tanks facing me go down via ARTY IEDs or Hidden mines.