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Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-01 14:08
by Wicca
How are you supposed that community if you don't even expect your admins to be able to take care of players disrupting the gameplay?
Herp. I just thought you meant that we were being disrupted by players. But if we are not being disrupted, how are the admins supposed to deal with players disrupting the gameplay?
And why would I not expect my admins to deal with it?
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-01 14:56
by xambone
CO would be more important if the game were going to last 4 hours instead of 1-2.5 hours
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-01 15:48
by saXoni
Seriously, an admin's job is to help other players and their stay by warning, resigning, kicking and banning. If they're not capable of that they shouldn't be admins.
This is what I wrote.
[R-CON]Wicca wrote:Thats your oppinion, as the owner of the server I have a different view.
This is how you replied.
[R-CON]Wicca wrote:why would I not expect my admins to deal with it?
Apparently you have a different view on how admins should deal with stuff (or not deal with stuff for that matter), and you seem to disagree with me on the matter. So yeah, you tell me why you don't expect your admins to deal with it.
[R-CON]Wicca wrote:Herp. I just thought you meant that we were being disrupted by players. But if we are not being disrupted, how are the admins supposed to deal with players disrupting the gameplay?
There are no certain players disrupting the gameplay, but there will always be players out there disrupting the gameplay, and when they do your admins are, according to Sweedensniper, too swamped and unable to take care of it.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-01 19:34
by Wicca
I dont think our admins are swamped. Really, they are quite lazy tbh.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 13:07
by Wicca
We are doing a revision of our rules, which will be posted here once its finished. It might change somethings that people feel were wrong, but i still feel strongly that people who have the power to warn and remove people. More easily can assume command, due to that power.
This goes along with having some etiquette in dealing with tactics and strategies, as it is a game. And you cant always win. So banning someone for losing is obviously a big nono, and I think our admins can dechipher it as such.
But please do report it if, they do anything like such, or in someway violates the trust.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 13:15
by Wicca
We have simplified our rules. Please read the following to update yourself on our server rules.
1. Communication
1.1 All players must be on mumble and have a microphone.When the server is filled, we will kick non mumblers for players that are on mumble.
- Please make sure that your nick in game and nick on Mumble are similar to ensure you will not be kicked.
1.2 Do not spam mumble or Commo Rose during the game, or between rounds.
1.3 Spamming allchat is forbidden. Using it for quick talks between the teams is allowed. When a server admin tells you to stop please do so.
2. Squads & commander
2.1 No squads before 1:30
2.2 No locked INFANTRY squads below 4 players.
2.3 All players have to be in a squad.
2.4 An admin can resign a player in every position.
-Any squad leader that doesn't follow the Administrators orders, will be warned and kicked.
-Any squad member who does not follow his SLs orders can be warned and then kicked.
2.5 Players in the Commander spot are not allowed to dicate what squads should do, the Commander position ingame is only to be used for placing the area attack and using the UAV/Spotting feature.
3. Vehicles and Assets
3.1 Air Attack & Air-recon assets are controlled by the CAS squad.
3.2 Air transportation assets are controlled by the TRANS squad.
3.3 Armored assets are controlled by the correct named squad(APC or TANK). A admin can always ask to combine APC and TANK into ARMOR;
3.4 All vehicles must be manned by trained personnel. An admin can kick you if he deems you are unfit for the asset.
3.5 Veichles need to be manned by the minimum personell to be operating properly.
3.6 Technicals cannot be claimed by a squad. This does not apply for SPG Techies.
3.7 Heavy assets (CAS, Armour, Mortars and Artillery) are not allowed when the server population is below 30 active players.Transportation assets (trucks, jeeps and transport helicopters) are allowed.
4. Mainbase
4.1 No baseraping at the main bases. No shooting into main bases, no shooting from main bases.
4.2 It is forbidden to engage enemy air assets which are taking off.
5. Forbidden tactics
5.1 Suicide tactics are forbidden except for suicide vehicles.
5.2 You are not allowed to drive people intentionally over with vehicles. This means turning around or circling just to kill.
5.3 You are not allowed to attack the opposing teams first capable flag until 10 min of the game has passed, unless it is active in the AAS order.
5.4 Mortars in Dome of Death are disallowed.
5.5 C4 is allowed to be placed anywhere but may not be dropped from moving vehicles.
6. Cheats & glitches
6.1 Cheating and glitching is strictly forbidden. If you are found doing it you will be banned.
-Any person suspected of cheating may be removed and further investigated.
7. Behaviour
7.1 Insulting/racism is not allowed. Insulting anyone in any manner, is not allowed. Racism is in any manner not allowed. We expect you to act in a mature and respectful manner at all times.
7.2 Giving intel of your own team to the enemy is prohibited. And will lead you to being kicked or banned.
8. Teamwork
8.1 All players are expected to communicate and play PR in an organized manner. Any player or squad found not completing the tasks benefitting the team, or similar do not attempt to assist the team will be warned and kicked.
8.2 Team-stacking that is deemed detrimental to the server flow of game play will be corrected by Admins. Attempts to continue team-stacking after admin team switching will result in warn/kick.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 14:46
by L4gi
2.5=
troublesome meme removed
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 15:53
by Web_cole
Ok, a) changing your server rules every other week is stupid and is just going to lead to confusion with your players, and probably your admins.
and b)
2.5 Players in the Commander spot are not allowed to dicate what squads should do, the Commander position ingame is only to be used for placing the area attack and using the UAV/Spotting feature.
This is fucking stupid. If SLs don't like the CO there is a goddamn mutiny button. Admins need to stop playing game designer, because apparently they are
bad at it.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 16:31
by Wicca
Web_cole wrote:Ok, a) changing your server rules every other week is stupid and is just going to lead to confusion with your players, and probably your admins.
.
Shit. Should I change it?
Look, take a chill pill. And let it play out. If its shit ill remove it.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 17:30
by Spec
PRTA decided that they want to use the Commander position as a UAV operator position and have the admins do the actual commanding, as an experiment. Ya'll will just have to live with this for now, or complain, as usual, in the PRTA forums. If you believe this change conflicts with the server license, contact the red tags. But cut down on the swearing here.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 17:54
by Jafar Ironclad
I'd say, let PRTA try the "commander doesn't command" rule. I know, that sounds very strange coming from me, but I believe in the power of shits and giggles within reason. If they feel like there's a problem, let them try to solve it.
It's a pretty severe change and implication, though, and I'm not sure it'll work myself. It would be wise to revert it if it doesn't help.
I would play on PRTA more often (and thus command for them more often), but PRTA has reserved slots and is outside the US, and CIA doesn't/isn't.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 18:58
by Wicca
[R-DEV]Jafar Ironclad wrote:I'd say, let PRTA try the "commander doesn't command" rule. I know, that sounds very strange coming from me, but I believe in the power of shits and giggles within reason. If they feel like there's a problem, let them try to solve it.
It's a pretty severe change and implication, though, and I'm not sure it'll work myself. It would be wise to revert it if it doesn't help.
I would play on PRTA more often (and thus command for them more often), but PRTA has reserved slots and is outside the US, and CIA doesn't/isn't.
People who lead the teams are admins. People who use the command post use it to man the UAV or call in arty. Its how the game has become.
The thing is, I want admins the deal with problems ingame without having to warn so much. But actually contribute to the gameplay. If you want a reserved slot you can just ask jafar. Anyone in the dev team should have one on all the servers!
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 20:28
by Jafar Ironclad
[R-CON]Wicca wrote:If you want a reserved slot you can just ask jafar. Anyone in the dev team should have one on all the servers!
Cool. Made a request on the PRTA support forums. Had a hard time finding it, but then realized that google was my friend.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-02 22:26
by avskum
How come the server isn't up?
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-03 00:06
by Wicca
Noone seeded it. or the attempt failed. Will try again tommorow.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-14 16:10
by Stealthgato
You should enable VOIP. Now, for example, mumble is messed up and we have no way of voice communicating with squad members. I don't understand why you disabled VOIP.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-14 17:48
by Brainlaag
Stealthgato wrote:I don't understand why you disabled VOIP.
To reduce strain on the server and indirectly force people to use Mumble, from what I recall.
Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-15 11:43
by ExeTick
I disabled VOIP so I dont ctd so often. it worked for me

Re: PRTA (Europe)
Posted: 2012-11-15 15:12
by Wicca
Stealthgato wrote:You should enable VOIP. Now, for example, mumble is messed up and we have no way of voice communicating with squad members. I don't understand why you disabled VOIP.
I disabled voip. Cause voip is bad... Mkaaaay?