[Official] Weapons Feedback

[Beee8190]

I don't think there is a problem with PPSH having high-ish recoil.

It's not a mp5; it does not even have a handguard.

In return; it needs higher damage.

My reference was to the MP5 we have ingame for MEC faction with very manageable recoil vs ppsh.

[fatalsushi83]

I'll admit, I'm definitely not a gun expert but from these videos it seems that the PPSH is much more controllable. Like Riflewizards said, a mag-dump is ineffective in PR (even though the shooters in these videos are able to keep the gun on target with no problem). Also, in terms of in-game balance, the PPSH has low damage and little stopping power so it should at least have effective full-auto fire at close range. When playing as militia or the Vietcong I see little reason to take it even over the AK-47.

PPSH-41 in Iraq - YouTube
ppsh 41 shooting - YouTube

[ComradeHX]

I'll admit, I'm definitely not a gun expert but from these videos it seems that the PPSH is much more controllable. Like Riflewizards said, a mag-dump is ineffective in PR (even though the shooters in these videos are able to keep the gun on target with no problem). Also, in terms of in-game balance, the PPSH has low damage and little stopping power so it should at least have effective full-auto fire at close range. When playing as militia or the Vietcong I see little reason to take it even over the AK-47.

PPSH-41 in Iraq - YouTube
ppsh 41 shooting - YouTube

Have you noticed the stock?

It's like a traditional rifle stock; the recoil isn't inline with your shoulder.
That means the recoil will naturally have higher tendency to drive muzzle upwards.

In-game mp5 does not have that problem, obviously. In-game Mp5 has negligible recoil while ppsh has fairly noticeable recoil; that is fine as long as the deviation isn't terrible.

[Ragnarok1775]

What the PPSh is meant for, doesn't really need accuracy and recoil isn't too big a problem. It's an SMG, with a moderate muzzle velocity and longer effective range than a pistol (but much smaller than any worthy rifle). Maybe someone on the forums has a lot of extra money and could go on GunBroker and buy one? There's also a lot of ranges in the US where you can rent stuff like that, it would be a great way to settle debates and get some useful data.

[fatalsushi83]

So you guys don't think it's overdone in PR compared to how steadily the shooters in the videos can hold the gun on full-auto? If no one shares my opinion I'll just drop the issue.

[=MeRk= Morbo5131]

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