=HOG= (North American) - Feedback Thread.

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Post by __Super_6__5__ »

KhlavKalash wrote:Can you try to have admins online when the server is full? We had it so often last time that there was no admin. there are always trolls and teamkillers. i know its not so easy to provide 24/7 admins, especially when the europeans join the server (time shift). eventually you can recrute some EU admins or kill the server when the last admin leaves. we have a lot of other servers available with admins, but the players wont leave a full server....
just my thoughts and opinion.

KhlavKalash
we will never kill the server. all those servers sitting idle with no players need to be turned off. That is the dumbest idea i have ever heard.

This is America, we sleep when you are awake therefor we are not on the server, have you applied? Why dont you send them our way, we are ALWAYS accepting admin applications, some make it, some dont.
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Post by Mineral »

It is not about turning servers off, it's about killing them when last admin leaves. Let's make that distinction clear for the further discussion of it to avoid confusion.
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Post by KhlavKalash »

the idea isnt that dumb... but ok. i'm already an admin on an server. and we are always looking that there is an admin online when the server is full. and if the last one leaves. he will tell the players so they know they play without admin. we had situations we even restarted the server that the players join another server.

problem is we have too much servers available and too less players. and when i see there is a full server without admin and possibilities to play on a server with admin, i dont get it why we (the community) could not manage it to work together.

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Jeah thanks mineral. sorry for the misunderstandings.
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Post by Haley »

Maybe a better idea, instead of shutting down servers with players is to get rid of all the servers that sit empty or have very few players....there are maybe 10 servers that ever populate....the rest just seem to pull off the players who run them...Seems like a waste.
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Post by FFG »

Haley wrote:Maybe a better idea, instead of shutting down servers with players is to get rid of all the servers that sit empty or have very few players....there are maybe 10 servers that ever populate....the rest just seem to pull off the players who run them...Seems like a waste.
Would work if the populated servers have admins...
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Post by AlonTavor »

Haley wrote:Maybe a better idea, instead of shutting down servers with players is to get rid of all the servers that sit empty or have very few players....there are maybe 10 servers that ever populate....
How does that help with lack of admins? Why would empty servers need admins?
How do you consider the 5-10 players that are seeding their own never-populated servers a meaningful number?
the rest just seem to pull off the players who run them...Seems like a waste.
And yet your server is full most of the time, usually without admins in my timezone.
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Post by Haley »

Well all the admins on the dead servers could apply to be admins on the live servers...
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Post by rPoXoTauJIo »

Haley wrote:Well all the admins on the dead servers could apply to be admins on the live servers...
Only to get denied like ffg :p
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Post by FFG »

Haley wrote:Well all the admins on the dead servers could apply to be admins on the live servers...
Lmao because all servers run the same, have the same standards on rules etc. okay.
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Post by Dorian »

So much salt and incompetence on HOG rn
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Post by Haley »

The point is that even if the servers are run differently, as far as rules go, only a few servers populate....so we are left with servers and rules the players choose to populate....look at the server list and note all the empty servers that have different rules....
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Post by CAS_ual_TY »

Haley wrote:The point is that even if the servers are run differently, as far as rules go, only a few servers populate....so we are left with servers and rules the players choose to populate....look at the server list and note all the empty servers that have different rules....
It still has nothing to do with that. Players choose the server that is full, thats it. I could get my server back up, turn it into the biggest shithole ever, seed it on fallujah and it would get full, no matter the "rules". I could also change my rules every single day, or hour, yet it wouldnt affect the amount of players at all.

In other words:

If you think that players always join the server they think is the best, then why
- do EU servers have such a competition, different servers can seed every day?
- do players, entirely, not join back a server after a crash? If you would crash right now, SSG would be full, not you.

Please... explain... these... points... to... me...

And another point:
Why does it hurt to shutdown, or deseed a server when the last admin left? Why is this such a problem? I really dont get it. And YES other servers have done it / are still doing it. Set vehicle warfare and the server will slowly die, with the pop still having fun. We do that atleast.
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Post by Murphy »

"Join other servers" isn't something you can say in a community of this size. If we all just joined diff servers and tried to seed it would completely kill whats left of this game, everyone would get bored and eventually tired of trying to seed against all the other players getting bored of seeding.

It's sad that you cannot shoulder the burden of running one of the few popular servers with enough foresight to see how your actions impact the rest of the community run servers. This isn't about different admin styles, or different rulesets this is about keeping the flame of PR alive for every server not just your own. Please don't be DRK and stick your heads in the sand "BUT BLUBALLS SAID I COULD RUN THIS HOW I WANT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOUR OLD AND STOOPID " **dabs**.
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Post by Haley »

If we have fewer servers with 10 to 30 players then we could fully populate the remaining servers...there are what 4 or 500 players left....thats enough for maybe 8 servers? It may be time to shutter the servers that rarely or never populate to save the game...people will tire of seeding and move on....cant we even agree that we have way more servers than needed? Run 2 or 3 NA servers, 2 or 3 Euro servers and 2 or 3 Chinese and 2 or 3 Russian servers, 1 or 2 SA and they would be full based on location and time zones...
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Post by Chuva_RD »

Why anyone bothers to infer any ideas in heads of HOG staff while they in the open text say that HOG staff orbits around their axis all losers without a full server.
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Post by Haley »

Im trying to offer a solution that will fill other servers. HOG is almost always full. We do not need help. We are trying to help the empty servers so players can get a slot on a server....our server always has a wait to get in....if we could consolidate the player base then we could have 2 or3 full servers regularly. There has to be a place for players that don't like HOG, or are banned.....
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Post by FFG »

Haley wrote:Im trying to offer a solution that will fill other servers. HOG is almost always full. We do not need help. We are trying to help the empty servers so players can get a slot on a server....our server always has a wait to get in....if we could consolidate the player base then we could have 2 or3 full servers regularly. There has to be a place for players that don't like HOG, or are banned.....
When NWG competes with you on the weekends. If both servers average around 60-80 players thats more people playing then if only NWG or HOG we're popped.
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Post by Haley »

Exactly....so shut down all the servers with 30 players or less and both servers will be full...
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Post by inb4banned »

It's terrible for the community to allow a server to ban anyone they want for any reason they choose. What's even the point of having rules if the admins are allowed to do whatever they want. As long as there's some dislike and suspicion admins will ban and not give a fair chance for an appeal. They throw around random accusations but never bother proving anything. Deal with this incompetence if you wish to help the community.
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Post by Tit4Tat »

Been afk for some time, but still kept in the loop. Just wanted to say...its such a shame that these c**ts that are well know to all of us and which are banned on nearly every server and have a fan base which justifies their actions and protects them I.e that dickhead above me. All I'm saying is why don't we as a small community that has given years of loyalty and enjoyment to one self and others with similar mind frame, to enjoy what's left of this unique game? By that I say we should once and for all some how ban or get these little fukers addresses or whatever you comp nerds can do and as a final farewell, terrorise this liitle shits i.e order a high class prostitute to virus's house or send an email to atom and tell him he didn't make the cut for the Olympics as a gymnast? Oh, forgot...tell inspectura as hard as he wants to try he will never be like that weird mofo hotmilf.

Anyway, this shit is a joke, few sour ******* need to be put to rest or they will put pr to rest.

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