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Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 16:49
by DNA9881
I believe it would be better to have someone who is higher ranking in the CIA group and who was actually there for the situation unlike Sgt.Taylor. I'm not so much concerned about the maps as I am the blatant admin abuse including random kicks and insulting remarks.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 16:51
by velocity
saXoni wrote:You obviously do, considering you came in here. I'm sure you read all of the posts and realized you had nothing to defend you with, so you ended up posting one of the most ridiculous posts.
Believe me. He didn't read it.

As for Kaland and your sheer ignorance as to what Taylor was saying. I'm glad you won't be coming back on our server again.

Essentially Kaland, you have attempted to say that every single admin in CIA is trolling every player on the server when in reality a single drunk admin screwed around. We have a public teamspeak, if this happens tell someone in there.

Nayo I don't believe you understand the amount of effort our admins put into the server just so you have a enjoyable place to play PR. When I am on our server I remove anyone giving people hassle and disrupting the gameplay. This is usually met with either a grateful "thank you" or a nice big "Fu.. You! You pile of sh.." ect ect ect from their friends.

Why should any of our admins put any time into our server for any of you if you are going to greet us with abuse. The mapvote is the least of our concerns when it comes to the pubbers.

Also tell me why I haven't flat out banned anyone that makes a mistake? This is what you are doing. A single admin screws up and you blow it out the skies.

Our server is free speech, if you have an issue with a player or a member being racist, report them. Once is gets report it gets solved.


//Rant over

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 16:58
by DNA9881
velocity wrote:

Our server is free speech, if you have an issue with a player or a member being racist, report them. Once is gets report it gets solved.


//Rant over
Free speech... you get a link to your forums on which it doesn't even allow you to post your argument if your signed in (might want to have Ace check into that). Or if they don't feel like handling it on the server you get kicked for asking about the situation. One more argument about free speech, isn't Kaland only speaking his mind about your server, he hasn't infringed any of your server rules to encourage a ban.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 17:01
by nAyo
Nayo I don't believe you understand the amount of effort our admins put into the server just so you have a enjoyable place to play PR. When I am on our server I remove anyone giving people hassle and disrupting the gameplay. This is usually met with either a grateful "thank you" or a nice big "Fu.. You! You pile of sh.." ect ect ect from their friends.
I perfectly understand it, I perfectly know also what it is to administrate a server, and to have to deal with idiot griefers etc. So please don't go there just because you don't agree with me.

The thing is, questionning yourselves must be something to foresee when you see that many people sharing the same opinion which goes against yours.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 17:48
by SuperHornet
Nvm

7char

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 17:56
by FuzzySquirrel
The only regularly populated US Server and they behave like Children, Way to represent the mod. :thumbsup:

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 18:12
by Portable.Cougar
I wont post feedback as it wont be positive though as a admin myself I would recommend that the CIA team make an effort to move some of this bickering and name calling to private areas. Either private CIA forums or PM's. Take my advice or not.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 18:23
by takecommand
I agree for what have been said about CIA's behavior. Some of them are bunch of children who aren't respecting any law of usual courtesy.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 18:27
by [AIR]-M3dic0pter-
FuzzySquirrel wrote:The only regularly populated US Server and they behave like Children
Exactly, when you try to have a discussion with almost all of them, it's like you're arguing with a child. It's a standoff. There's no point. You'll always be wrong and they'll always be right.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 18:52
by Acemantura
GP_MineralWouter wrote:So people cannot give negative feedback?
They can and some are supplying me and my clan mates with valuable and informative information that will help us to improve.
GP_MineralWouter wrote:They cannot say it would be nice that if you run a mapvote you stick to it?
That is a legitimate grievance. However, map votes are not cut in stone, and the next map is and always was decided by an admin.
GP_MineralWouter wrote:That you don't kick people for non-kickable reasons?
That is another legitimate grievance, one for which I have no defense. I am doing my best to deal with the situation, but I and many in our administration have real life duties. Personally, I am typing this from work on my lunch break.
GP_MineralWouter wrote:That you pick skirmish maps on a full mixed server?
How is that not allowed? How would that ruin or destroy or disrupt gameplay at all?

Skirmish maps are available and are amazing breaks from normal AAS and INS.

Should we not consider any other game mode?
GP_MineralWouter wrote:To give feedback about certain admins? They can't?
They can, they are, and I am dealing with it.
GP_MineralWouter wrote:I personally don't play enouph on CIA to contribute to this feedback.
Precisely

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 19:46
by Acemantura
Acemantura wrote:...the next map is and always [has been] decided by an admin.
Did you read that Kaland?

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 19:49
by Mineral
If you are dealing with it, then send a positive not to the public, instead of having people like Anti talk total bullshit. Get rid of those kind of people. And honestly, everyone can read the ciagaming forums, and what I sometimes read there :p Either drink less or stop bashing people into the ground with rude messages. People do not post stuff on your forums because they want to hit you in the face in RL(most of the time at least), they do it so you guys can improve, but instead of taking things seriously you guys act like little children. And if you guys are trying to improve on feedback, then man up and dare to say that you are wrong. Instead of laughing around the matter.

Yes, the map is the admins decision. But the mapvote system is something every admin should love. At the end of every round, decide with a couple admins for 5 minutes what good maps would be, put the vote up and set the winner. if admins believe that AAS would not be good for a next round, Then simply don't put it in the vote. Or at least communicate with the audience so they are aware. If in the end you think the next map would not be good for the server, then at least tell it to the current players. So they can understand. And they will, trust me.

Me and Coyote are trying to deal with some PRTA-tags users that grief on your server, and we are taking it seriously threw PM. That's the way I want to work with CIA. Cause it works positive for both groups.

You are number one server in PR, if you can't take all the feedback that brings with you, positive or negative, like I said, close the thread. Or make sure you have your admins under control.

Me, as a manager for PRTA, am only trying to help. Give my own experience and try to help to you see your own mistakes. Because that is what feedback is.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 20:43
by Tequila
Anti wrote: I don't care.
And thats fine. CIA pays for the server and they can do what they want with it. I just hope people will see this and move on to another server. All its going to take is a another US server to come along that has similar rules as CIA and an enforced mapvote before you will see this in your thread..
Everyone who used to play in CIA wrote:I don't care.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 20:44
by Acemantura
Kaland wrote:Indeed I did, just trying to make the point that Anti was abusing his admin rights for personal gain, and it's starting to damage your clan's reputation as a whole.
The map choice and vote has nothing to do with his blatant admin abuse. The maps are overridden by admin committee. I see no problem with one or two mapvote overrides, as such a situation falls to our prerogative.

As for Anti's abuse of players, I haven't an answer for you yet. However, I can assure you that your answer is coming.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 20:50
by Acemantura
GP_MineralWouter wrote:If you are dealing with it, then send a positive not to the public, instead of having people like Anti talk total bullshit. Get rid of those kind of people. And honestly, everyone can read the ciagaming forums (Not all of them), and what I sometimes read there :p Either drink less or stop bashing people into the ground with rude messages. People do not post stuff on your forums because they want to hit you in the face in RL(most of the time at least), they do it so you guys can improve, but instead of taking things seriously you guys act like little children. And if you guys are trying to improve on feedback, then man up and dare to say that you are wrong. Instead of laughing around the matter.

Yes, the map is the admins decision. But the mapvote system is something every admin should love. At the end of every round, decide with a couple admins for 5 minutes what good maps would be , put the vote up and set the winner (This is the Standard Operating Procedure). if admins believe that AAS would not be good for a next round, Then simply don't put it in the vote. Or at least communicate with the audience so they are aware. If in the end you think the next map would not be good for the server, then at least tell it to the current players. So they can understand. And they will, trust me.

Me and Coyote are trying to deal with some PRTA-tags users that grief on your server, and we are taking it seriously threw PM. That's the way I want to work with CIA. Cause it works positive for both groups.

You are number one server in PR, if you can't take all the feedback that brings with you, positive or negative, like I said, close the thread. Or make sure you have your admins under control.

Me, as a manager for PRTA, am only trying to help. Give my own experience and try to help to you see your own mistakes. Because that is what feedback is.
Mineral, I thank you for your kind words of concern. Please note that we do not censor our forums (very much) and that these "discussions" are visible for the public good. There isn't very much that we feel we need to hide.

Peace

Ace

Edit: (FFS Stop posting)

ecfelix wrote:And thats fine. CIA pays for the server and they can do what they want with it. I just hope people will see this and move on to another server. All its going to take is a another US server to come along that has similar rules as CIA and an enforced mapvote before you will see this in your thread..
Well, please make this a quote to remember
Acemantura wrote:I DO CARE

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 21:05
by Anti
You give them map vote, they want want the whole damn server.

It's really an amazing evolution how even a marginal amount of power is given to the pubs and then they want more. Then they complain because they don't get it.

And when the powers that be push back and say, no, not this time, they whine, cry, and moan, like children. And we are the childish ones? Kekeke ^^

Truly delightful!

Continue onwards with the moaning.

64/64 CIA server. Btw.

I did go back and read, for fun, and I'm enjoying this.

Re: ]CIA[ 24/7 Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Posted: 2012-06-14 21:14
by Brainlaag
Dayum, Deja vu, seems like I'm back on the =H= server feedback section. Ace I wishes the best of luck to you, hopefully you can get everything under control, as you seem to be the only reasonable here who actually cares about the playerbase, or anything at all.