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Actually CH-53 Sea stallion and CH-53E Super Stallion are wery mutch still in active use.

And AIX made a BF2 model..... maybe we could get it and improve it....

Doc.Pock wrote:means it will be in 1.0

Maybe. Assorted other models will need to be completed before it can be released; for example, the AT4 wouldn't have been released if the RPG-26 hadn't been ready to go also.

All in given time.

^^You are right there won't probably be this machinegunner class in 1.0, but If the model is ready, it can be used on various vehicles, like the on the RHIB boat, on some jeeps and such...

-lucky

lucky.BOY wrote:^^You are right there won't probably be this machinegunner class in 1.0, but If the model is ready, it can be used on various vehicles, like the on the RHIB boat, on some jeeps and such...

-lucky

Hueys, Blackhawks, Lynx, Chinook, Merlin, pretty much every western transport heli aswell. Some factions could use it as a replacement for the Mg3.

I also highly aproove of a Ch53 in PR. Marine/ german/ Israeli factions could use it as their own little Chinook, Marines could get the Osprey instead maybe? As it's replacing the Ch53 iirc.

^^ There used to be an Osprey in PR, they removed it or it never made in.

foxtwofive wrote:^^ There used to be an Osprey in PR, they removed it or it never made in.

Actually it's because there weren't any maps for it.

Edit: I didn't really make myself clear, the osprey is around somewhere, and it's fully functional, I tried it myself a while ago.

We had an Osprey?

[R-DEV]Spush wrote:We had an Osprey?

It never was in PR no but we had permission to use the RC V-22 but its model was pretty poor and no maps large enough to use it on.

The PK's are the equivilant of the 240, C6, and GPMG. all of those mgs are classed as general purpose machineguns. all 7.62x51 and 7.62x54 rounds.

The PK is already in the game, so really its BLUFOR that is missing out.

all thats needed is to throw the RPK in for the russians, give BLUFOR our GPMG's and we're golden! then we'll have SAW's and GPMG's for everyone! huzzah!

I would imagine it would go something like this -

GPMGs -
M240/FN MAG (most BLUFOR factions)
MG3 (Germany and MEC)
PKP (Russia)
PKM (Militia and Insurgent factions)
QJY88 (China)
M60 (Militia or Hamas)

Automatic Rifles/LMGs
M249/Minimi (most BLUFOR factions)
Probably the HK23E or HK13E for the MEC
Negev (IDF)
MG4 (Germany)
RPK-74M (Russia)
RPK or RPK-74 (Militia and Insurgent factions)
QBB-95 (China)

pretty good list, includes all factions, or at least most. Fair amount of work, but its always fun to have new toys.

'Hunter[1stReconBn wrote:;1708019']The PK's are the equivilant of the 240, C6, and GPMG. all of those mgs are classed as general purpose machineguns. all 7.62x51 and 7.62x54 rounds.

The PK is already in the game, so really its BLUFOR that is missing out.

all thats needed is to throw the RPK in for the russians, give BLUFOR our GPMG's and we're golden! then we'll have SAW's and GPMG's for everyone! huzzah!

RPK is underpowered, especially in real life.

That is the reason Russians use PKM/PKP as the most popular squad support weapon: it shoots big rounds, has lots of power, and can shoot more rounds before overheating(PKM also lets the barrel be quickly changed).

Russians should just skip the RPK altogether unless a specific map requires portrayal of a specific branch of Russian armed forces.

Ask Noserfatu; I'm pretty sure they use it. It's decent in-game too thing as you can actually use it standing up and reload it way faster than the other ARs.

As for the work:

GPMGs -
M240/FN MAG (most BLUFOR factions) - Probably done.
MG3 (Germany and MEC) - Done.
PKP (Russia) - Probably done or else relatively easily doable thing as the new PKM
is done. Also, the devs have hinted for a long time that it's going to turn up sooner or later.
PKM (Militia and Insurgent factions) - Done.
QJY88 (China) - Not done as far as anybody knows.
M60 (Militia or Hamas) - Done.

Automatic Rifles/LMGs
M249/Minimi (most BLUFOR factions) - Done.
Probably the HK23E or HK13E for the MEC - Not done as far as anybody here knows, although the vBF2 HK21E model could be pressed back into service in an emergency. It's also really just a modified G3, and the G3's done, so...
Negev (IDF) - Done.
MG4 (Germany) - Done.
RPK-74M (Russia) - Either done or relatively easily doable thing as the AK-74M is done.
RPK or RPK-74 (Militia and Insurgent factions) - Same as above.
QBB-95 (China) - Done.

Food for thought.

thats still a few weapons that need be done, but yes it could be completed in the near future

We could also make the Star Ship Enterprise while we are at it...

To put this as simply as possible, if you want something like this in PR, its up to you guys, the community to make it happen. There is so much we want to make in PR but we simply do not have the time or the people to make everything we want and all our modellers are tied up doing other things, most of them with multiple tasks which are going to be occupying them for a long time to come. I myself have enough tasks on my plate to last another year if not more without needing any new ones and that's only counting the highest priority tasks I've got.

If you want this I suggest you guys learn how to model otherwise its unlikely to happen any time soon if you just expect us to do it all for you. Its what I, and pretty much every single other PR developer did when we saw something missing in PR, Motherdear with his AAVP7A1 for one quick recent example and there is no reason why you guys can't do it too.

ShockUnitBlack wrote:Maybe. Assorted other models will need to be completed before it can be released; for example, the AT4 wouldn't have been released if the RPG-26 hadn't been ready to go also.

Except we introduced the AT4 in 0.5 and RPG26 in 0.8...

[R-DEV]Outlawz wrote:Except we introduced the AT4 in 0.5 and RPG26 in 0.8...

I believe in that time the MEC where using a place holder L-AT, can't remember what it was exactly but think it might have been the RPG-7 iirc.

Okay, again been sort of presumptious, but arguably the only gun needed to be modeled to make the machinegunner class is really the FN MAG, thing as you could give the MEC the vBF2 HK21 (very ugly, but who cares), the PLA the Type 80 PKM clone (fairly unrealistic), and the Russians the PKM and the existing RPK (fairly unrealistic again in the case of the RPK).

Not ideal, but you'd have a whole new class.

Sorry for pressing this.

Its expected from u shock judging by ur sig