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Tarranauha200 wrote:
This would be epic.

... Or you could give them this thing.

Back on topic - I agree, the PLA needs love more than the other factions do. They have some cool assets in real-life too; the ZTZ-99, ZBD-97, and ZSD-89 are all unique, modern Chinese vehicles.

I'd love to see the PTL02 assault gun and the WZ550 HJ-9 tank destroyer make appearances too, especially since the WZ551 exists already.

The MEC simply need to be further differentiated from the Russians. Personally, I would recommend giving them MT-LBs and the Russians BTR-80s and not mixing things up beyond that.

Rudd wrote:Iranian faction


con - crapload of work for no change in gameplay at all...

I'm genuinely surprised you think that. Each faction's vehicles and weapons give the team originality in the feel of how they work. If anything the next obvious move to simulate a real big conflict in game involves Iran (not forgetting Africa or North Korea). MEC is vanilla, no matter how many ways you change the skins or weapons they are still a non-existent faction that dont make sense. I like the MEC, in fact I think they might be my favourite team, but they are at the end of the day nonsensical because they are a relic from the original game, in fact it would make more sense to take the MEC, rename them to Iran and make an excuse for the T72s and G3s. since I started playing PR I thought the MEC should have just been called republican guard and be done with it, they were from my perspective far more similar to sadams troops than anything else. and guess what...when the guy finishes his bagdad map, who do you think is going to be occupying the city? its either going to be Insurgency or AAS and for the AAS layer its naturally Republican guard.

edit: also if there was Iraqi army and Iranian army, there could be an Iran, Iraq war map (scud launchers ftw)

Sounds like you just don't like the name "MEC". In reality they are a different faction then VBF2's MEC with vehicles and weapons that are more tailored to "Modern" Middle Eastern countries, of course a ton of Middle Eastern countries use western gear it's still more realistic.

Alternate LAT kit for MEC could be an RPG-7 with 2 PG-7V rockets and the alternate HAT kit could be MP5 + RPG-7 with 2 PG-7VR rockets. Also how about the regular specialist getting a scoped G3 and an 870 with breaching slugs and the alternate specialist with just the Saiga with more magazines and more grenades (and possibly with slugs aswell - like the British insurgency specialist)?

Should replace the iron-sight G3s for MEC with the ones with no rails on top (like the Taliban one). They just look so ugly with that rail when it's not being used D:

[R-DEV]Spush wrote:Sounds like you just don't like the name "MEC". In reality they are a different faction then VBF2's MEC with vehicles and weapons that are more tailored to "Modern" Middle Eastern countries, of course a ton of Middle Eastern countries use western gear it's still more realistic.

I hear what your saying, but no its not just the name. its just about whats right. it opens doors where is, keeping the MEC as a whole keeps doors closed.

[R-MOD]Spec wrote:
Personally, I like the G3. I like that it isn't yet another 5.56x45mm assault rifle / carbine. Makes the faction play a little different. If anything at all, I'd always have wished for the specialist kit or some other kit to get the MP5 as alternative primary weapon when you request it with a right-click, as it is a great CQB weapon and already in the arsenal.

Can you guys plz do that? also is it possible to bring back the non rail G3s for at least one kit, for example make the normal specialist a non rail G3 / alt spec. mp5

It's pretty, pretty badass

Rudd wrote:Iranian faction

pro - more realistic flag selection on screen...

con - crapload of work for no change in gameplay at all...

the mix of replica western assets, their odd homemade small arms and russian equipment would be interesting though, and which camopattern would you pick for the grunts? they have so many!

I'd prefer staying with the MEC though, they're pure fiction, impossible as a situation really (language barrier for a start), their inclusion in this mod can not reasonably be defended, but they're awesome nonetheless. Bringing in some older western assets would be an interesting add though.

I'd definitely support an Iranian faction, but not as a replacement for the MEC. From the bit of real-life geography we can pick up from the game, they seem to encompass the Arab countries of the Arabian Peninsula and the Levant, considering that their influence stretches at least from Oman(Muttrah) to Lebanon(Op. Marlin). Meanwhile Iran is in a completely different(but nearby) location, with a distinct language and culture.

Is the G3 able to be given another scope? IF yes that would be way better than the scope that the G3 currently has and that take 1/4 of the screen. It just doesn't fit the weapon :S

MEC vs Taliban insurgency would be an incredibly interesting addition to the MEC faction. Possibly taking place on a kokan like map giving the MEC a few medium assets like MTLBs and possibly a Gazelle which would not be over powering against the Cache defenders as in Karbala. It would represent the struggles of real life Pakistan and Afghanistan against the Taliban. Making MEC for once BluFor!

I support DNA9881's suggestion. MEC versus an insurgent faction would be a nice.

As for MEC's equipment itself, I'm happy with the way it is right now. Although I wouldn't mind seing another OPFOR faction like Iran or another Arab country/fictional coalition with a different set of weapons.

I think MEC servers the purpose of being an Iran faction and also a Pakistan faction. I just think they should be given some more weapons. And maybe some more "new" equipements.

TBH I just want to see the beautiful version of the G3 back. The current one with rails is ugly as shite (no offense to you who modeled it. the issue is the weapon not the model)

CroCop wrote:TBH I just want to see the beautiful version of the G3 back. The current one with rails is ugly as shite (no offense to you who modeled it. the issue is the weapon not the model)

True, like the L85, its a weapon that only its mother can love.

I like DNA's suggestion as well about making MEC blufor against an Insurgent team. It could make for some interesting mechanics, although personally, I would like to see it in a heavily urbanized environment.

On the subject of the MP5, I personally think that it would make a more logical alt kit for the Squad Leader. Officers quite often will carry smaller weapons due to the fact that their squad should be doing the vast majority of the fighting. An Officer's weapon is primarily for self defense. In a faction that already utilizes the MP5, I think it makes more sense for an officer to grab that weapon than a RIFLEMAN Specialist. Either way, more MP5's on the battlefield is a good thing, in my opinion.

As for multiple variants of the MEC, maybe if a design plan were assembled that would model out the kit loadouts and assets to be used, and provided that the design plan were sufficiently unique, I could theoretically support the idea. Just taking the MEC and giving them AK's isn't going to cut it for me, personally.

While a lot of the Middle Eastern countries with more militia-like militaries use Kalashnikovs, those with more structured armed forces (most notably Iran and Pakistan) use G3s. I'm fine with MEC the way it is, they could just use some better APCs. Glad to hear the BMP2 is coming, but BTR90 and MTLB are still incredibly weak... being a fictitious faction, couldn't they have "armed up" and gotten better APCs?

One of the thing I like about the MEC is that you don't really see modern, professional Arab militaries in fiction much...giving them AKs or changing their appearance so that they turn back into the usual Soviet Army clone or "terrorists with tanks" would be a step back IMO. I'll have to see the new kit geometries to judge them, but I'd be fine with just some general polishing or updating.

I'd also support the MEC vs. insurgents idea, would be interesting and it's not exactly uncommon in real life for Arab militaries to confront irregular forces.