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Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 15:46
by TeRR0R
No problems the other way around.
I can play from germany with 170ms latency and no loss or lag in america based servers.

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 15:50
by ma21212
[quote=""'[R-CON"]Tim270;1757319']Well 2 guys in my clan that live in north America have been having a lot of problems with our german ts/server, they will timeout about once a hour and have to wait a min or two before they can rejoin. We think there must be some problem with the routing as we cant find a problem anywhere else.[/quote]

[quote="L4gi""]Tim, we got the same thing with our 'mericans. And its only to the German box.

[/quote]

Yeah, this happens ONLY with the US players, we all get disconnected at the same exact time, wait 5 mins then reconnected at same time. Never happens with the Canadians, or Europeans. Such an annoying problem, I honestly cannot explain how annoying it is...

Ive noticed this happens around 3-6pm est, kinda peak hours I guess.
PricelineNegotiator wrote:Because our country is fucking huge and you can't possibly expect every single area to have amazing internet.
Dude, I live 10 miles from a major city. On the Eastern Coast. In a higly suburbanized area. I expect good interwebs. My ISP (Comcast) says I can get upto 20mbps, in reality I get only 10% of that. But even with that I get really good pings off EU servers, hell I can even play on the Chinese server with a ping of 250.

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 15:51
by saXoni
Hey Smooth, there's no reason to stray off topic and start discussing the Norwegian climate just because you just realized your internet isn't good enough to reach Europe properly.
I know several American PR-players playing on European servers without any problems whatsoever, meaning there's no "deal" with the European servers - there's a deal with your internet. Your internet is the point.

I suggest a forum moderator locks this thread as the thread-started isn't able to discuss this in a proper and mature way, nor is he able to realize that the problem regarding this matter is about him and his internet/ISP, not European servers.

The temperature here was around 60F today, I guess you wanted to know.

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 15:52
by BroCop
ma21212 wrote: Dude, I live 10 miles from a major city. On the Eastern Coast. In a higly suburbanized area. I expect good interwebs.
In the US this seems to go the other way around from what I've seen :p

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 16:12
by SmoothIsFast6
MaxBoZ wrote:A continent that has several different countries with several different lines, companies and currency's with a population of well over 700 Million people has better internet than 1 single country with 300 Million inhabitants does. A country so large with only so few providers resulting in no competition, it's got nothing to do with the size or amount of people that are in your country. The Netherlands with 17 Mil. inhabitants and 40000 km2 has about the same amount of (actual) providers the US does.

Get over yourself, you really wanted to answer to your question, you got it. Now several US people in here have explained that they have absolutely no problem with connecting to German (European) servers, including someone from California. So unless you live in Alaska or Hawaii I would say that the main reason you are having trouble is due to either your home connection or due to a problem with the connection in your local area.
Again i'll nullify your statement, you can't average in variables, even if you have the same number of providers.

I've answered my own question that germany is just far away and lots of factors along the way that can interrupt my connections, just two of my states + a few people is more than your whole state, we have eminence dense area's where it does mess with connection speed. Why do you want to prove me wrong about my internet? my internet is great for what it is, not to germany but yeah it sucks anyway cause it should be a million times faster we also should have flying cars by now

anyways you nederlander's need to cheer up, i haven't met a nice one in awhile
saXoni wrote:Hey Smooth, there's no reason to stray off topic and start discussing the Norwegian climate just because you just realized your internet isn't good enough to reach Europe properly.
I know several American PR-players playing on European servers without any problems whatsoever, meaning there's no "deal" with the European servers - there's a deal with your internet. Your internet is the point.

I suggest a forum moderator locks this thread as the thread-started isn't able to discuss this in a proper and mature way, nor is he able to realize that the problem regarding this matter is about him and his internet/ISP, not European servers.

The temperature here was around 60F today, I guess you wanted to know.
I didn't just realize it i realized it for awhile, i was just thinking more people who i've talked to here in the states would step up and say yeah this happens to me to, like when i was talking to them, it's weird because it's only to do with PR, any other german gaming server like with BF3 ect. i can connect fast no problem not even a flicker all day. So move on and cheer up buddy

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 16:27
by PricelineNegotiator
ma21212 wrote:My ISP (Comcast) says I can get upto 20mbps, in reality I get only 10% of that. But even with that I get really good pings off EU servers, hell I can even play on the Chinese server with a ping of 250.
Not sure if you know the difference between MB and Mb. A Megabyte (MB) is composed of 8 megabits (Mb), so when they sell you 20 Mb internet, you can only really download at 20/8 MBps. That would be the cause why you get 10% which ~12.5% of what you think you should get.

If you already knew the difference and are only getting .2Mbps, then your ISP definitely sucks.

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 16:46
by MaxBooZe
Please come back when you can actually nullify my argument, lock this please.

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 19:50
by PricelineNegotiator
MaxBoZ wrote:Please come back when you can actually nullify my argument, lock this please.
In case you didn't notice, you argument is completely wrong.
MaxBoZ wrote:A continent that has several different countries with several different lines, companies and currency's with a population of well over 700 Million people has better internet than 1 single country with 300 Million inhabitants does.
This can't really mean anything unless we have more than one reliable source.
A country so large with only so few providers resulting in no competition, it's got nothing to do with the size or amount of people that are in your country.
What the fuck kind of logic is that? That's like saying that I need to outline a circle with string, but the amount of string shouldn't depend on the size of the circle. I realize that internet isn't all about just the outline of an area, but also inside of the perimeter.
The Netherlands with 17 Mil. inhabitants and 40000 km2 has about the same amount of (actual) providers the US does.
How in the hell does the amount of provides the US has compare to the amount the Netherlands has? It's unlikely that these providers amass to be the same size, so there is no comparison. The providers in the US are likely bigger anyway.

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-11 20:11
by SmoothIsFast6
i agree, lock the thread

I've found what i was looking for, we can continue this off topic weirdness these guys started in PM's

thanks all

Re: whats the deal with EU servers

Posted: 2012-04-12 06:07
by sr.bambino
conclusions:
1) PR has some retards posting on the forums

2) US internet is expensive and slow compared to many other 1st-world nations due to; monopoly of the ISP industry in the US, and lack of government or private investment in faster internet hardware.

3) US provides a sufficient internet access to connect from California to a German server w/ 200-240 ping, so why give a fuck

Now we can go on with our lives and continue to shoot each other in PR,

Note: Internet in Chile & Israel is abominable [absolutely terribly retardedly slow)

thankyou

-Bam

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-12 17:21
by SmoothIsFast6
thank you for your useless comment

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-12 17:45
by JimmyKid1996
I thinks its your ISP. I got FiOS, and I can connect to a server (for example) in Frankfurt, Germany, with a ping of 111. From my house, to the closest server (I believe is TG, in which I think is in Virginia) I get 56.

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-12 20:44
by SmoothIsFast6
I think it's flooding and the science of jittering or just PR + mumbles demanding use of the internet or both

I get better ping than you on each server you mentioned on comcast, that's not the problem

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-12 22:32
by Tim270
I think it was quite obviously documented on the previous pages that is a problem with Comcast and Germany, or a German ISP.

The best thing imo is to ring Comcast and see if they are aware of the problem.

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-13 01:20
by SmoothIsFast6
i've done some optimizing with services and this and that can't remember what i did, but this could have been do to a lot of things, all kinds of factors involved

haven't had a problem since, but this seems to come and go on certain days/nights

anyway, off to ruck run

Posted: 2012-04-13 01:44
by JimmyKid1996
SmoothIsFast6 wrote:I think it's flooding and the science of jittering or just PR + mumbles demanding use of the internet or both

I get better ping than you on each server you mentioned on comcast, that's not the problem
I doubt it. Your using a broadband provider, I have a FIBER OPTIC line. If its better, than prove it. I'm not saying FiOS is better, just faster.

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-13 02:12
by SmoothIsFast6
whats wrong with these kids? calm down, what test you want me to do and we'll both do it and see

i get 16 ping to TG but i'm closer than you, and 100 to germany

like i said my internet is good for me, anyways just has some coconut water after my run feeling refreshed going to play some PR now....

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-13 09:13
by Gullerback
Yea you have fios.. cool.

Ping & download speed are 2 different things.

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-13 16:18
by JimmyKid1996
SmoothIsFast6 wrote:i get 16 ping to TG but i'm closer than you, and 100 to germany
Yet, you have problems connecting?

Re: What's the deal with EU servers?

Posted: 2012-04-13 16:20
by PricelineNegotiator
While we're on the topic of connections, how long does it take for you guys to log in to PR? About 15 seconds is the standard for me and I've never noticed a difference between connections when I take my laptop or desktop to other places.