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PricelineNegotiator wrote:Hell, I was talking about just using the main gun. I think that would work a lot better and the drop isn't significant enough.It's pretty easy to aim with the existing reticle and get 75% accuracy (at 2km). Enough to take out a tank or group of infantry in about 100 rounds without getting too close for AA lock on.

You might want to save the cannon for the jets since your likley to get pretty up close and personal with the enemy jets

PricelineNegotiator wrote:Is the Harrier's (GR3) cannon going to be the GAU-12 or the ADEN? Either way I don't think it matters.

The ADEN cannon is what the brits used back then.

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:You might want to save the cannon for the jets since your likley to get pretty up close and personal with the enemy jets

Are you implying that air-to-air missiles will not be in the mini-mod? I thought some Argentian jets were taken out by AIM-9s.

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote: The ADEN cannon is what the brits used back then.

I was aware that these were used on the GR3, but wasn't sure if you were going to leave the GAU-12 on the Harrier. The ADEN is a 4-barrel revolver cannon mounted under the fuselage, right? That'll be different to use.

PricelineNegotiator wrote:Are you implying that air-to-air missiles will not be in the mini-mod? I thought some Argentian jets were taken out by AIM-9s.

Na, will be AA missiles, but only short ranged ones (and somewhat limited) and if your enemy is popping flares constantly, guns might be your best bet

PricelineNegotiator wrote:I was aware that these were used on the GR3, but wasn't sure if you were going to leave the GAU-12 on the Harrier. The ADEN is a 4-barrel revolver cannon mounted under the fuselage, right? That'll be different to use.

From my understanding the "gun pod" for the GAU-12 looks basically the same as the ADEN gun pod, which has one gun in each pod.



Then again, not 100% sure but all my sources say ADEN gun pods for Sea Harrier FRS1 and Harrier GR3.

I think it'll be a blast on a 100+ player server.

It'll be fun to fly a Skyhawk over the Brits

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1759691']From my understanding the "gun pod" for the GAU-12 looks basically the same as the ADEN gun pod, which has one gun in each pod.

That'd be correct. The GAU-12/U mounts similar to the ADEN. Using the picture above for a reference, in the GAU-12/U system the pod on the top (port or left side of the aircraft) is the 25MM 5-barrel rotary cannon and the pod on the bottom (starboard or right side of the aircraft) contains the ammo for it (300 rounds, precisely). The ammo is fed through a sleeve from the ammo pod to the gun pod through the belly of the aircraft.

In the USMC, our AV-8Bs rarely carry the guns during shipboard usage due to the extreme weight of the gun. If the gun is installed, the Harriers is restricted to carrying 1 500 lb bomb (it can take off with 1,500 lbs of ordnance without the gun). A couple of pictures of the USMC Harrier with and without the GAU-12/U.

AV-8B Harrier II+ without the GAU-12/U during shipboard take off.


AV-8B Harrier II with the GAU-12/U during land take off.


To be honest, I couldn't find anything other than Wikipedia that said anything about what I just put. But I've got nearly 2 years of experience around these whistling shitcans from time on deployments with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit as apart of the ACE (Air Combat Element) and talked a lot with their maintainers to see the limits of the aircraft (to be honest, just to have ammo to talk shit against them).

I signed up for big maps with vehicles.

Screw Caw of Dooty; bigger maps = better.

mangeface wrote:That'd be correct. The GAU-12/U mounts similar to the ADEN. Using the picture above for a reference, in the GAU-12/U system the pod on the top (port or left side of the aircraft) is the 25MM 5-barrel rotary cannon and the pod on the bottom (starboard or right side of the aircraft) contains the ammo for it (300 rounds, precisely). The ammo is fed through a sleeve from the ammo pod to the gun pod through the belly of the aircraft.

Ye, although with the British Harriers ADEN pods, both pods are cannon pods with the ADEN cannon, with 130 rounds in them each (260 total).

TBH to make the pod all I did was take the GAU-12 pod Stigger made for the AV8B, delete the side without the cannon and then mirror the cannon pod to the other side and made them one object
+ Stigger will hopefully do a quick reskin of it to get it into Sea Harrier/GR3 colours too

mangeface wrote:In the USMC, our AV-8Bs rarely carry the guns during shipboard usage due to the extreme weight of the gun. If the gun is installed, the Harriers is restricted to carrying 1 500 lb bomb (it can take off with 1,500 lbs of ordnance without the gun). A couple of pictures of the USMC Harrier with and without the GAU-12/U.

Ye, which is the main reason why I think us Brits stopped using them on the later versions but during the Falklands, they where always fitted to both Sea Harriers and GR3s and many reports of them being used during the conflict on mainly Pucaras but also on Hueys etc.

Silly suggestion perhaps....

Game mode type Air superiority.

Make Aircraft carrier destroyable, equip it with AA that won't get lock below 15m ASL or within a shortrange (to give Argentinians time to get a bit of height to toss bombs), if Argentina can destroy carrier its all over....or land forces have no air cover and thus would get bombed to hell.

4 Super Etendards/Mirage no AIM9 only cannon and flares
2 Sea Harriers 2 crappy AIM9 each and cannon

Or am I mad?

Could make that a fun dimension on an over 64 server whilst predominantly land forces fight it out on the islands.

VoodooActual wrote:*Prays for Harriers and Royal Marine Commandos, maybe even.. a vulcan!?*

Gimme my Vulcan!

On a different note, how are the guns going to fire? A separate slot for each pod, intervals or both together?

PLODDITHANLEY wrote:Silly suggestion perhaps....

Game mode type Air superiority.

Make Aircraft carrier destroyable, equip it with AA that won't get lock below 15m ASL or within a shortrange (to give Argentinians time to get a bit of height to toss bombs), if Argentina can destroy carrier its all over....or land forces have no air cover and thus would get bombed to hell.

4 Super Etendards/Mirage no AIM9 only cannon and flares
2 Sea Harriers 2 crappy AIM9 each and cannon

Or am I mad?

Could make that a fun dimension on an over 64 server whilst predominantly land forces fight it out on the islands.

Interesting idea about not allowing the AA to lock below a certain height, although only way I can think of doing that would be to limit how much it can physically look down. Only way to do the min distance bit would be to make the AA missiles not arm in time to hit a target up close, but visually from the AA gunners POV, you could still lock and fire on the target but could give them a distance gauge on the target with a custom HUD so they could see what range the target is, possibly even making it turn red at a certain range but don't think that bit is possible.

Having the carrier destroyable however I don't think would be very good for gameplay as if no one was protecting the carrier for a few mins, would be very easy to take out.

How ever if you look at the design plan, the Exocet is in there

Tirak wrote:On a different note, how are the guns going to fire? A separate slot for each pod, intervals or both together?

Will be like any other aircraft with two cannons ingame, Tornado GR4 being one that pops to my mind, which code wise is one weapon, with two barrels and shared combined mag count.

People are avoiding 4X4 maps? Thats news to me. I found them to have a big potential of fun, if explosions at the hands of armor cas mortar and jdams is your idea of fun.

IMHO 4km maps need a nearly full server and gameplay is heavily affected if one asset element of a team are bad.

PLODDITHANLEY wrote:IMHO 4km maps need a nearly full server and gameplay is heavily affected if one asset element of a team are bad.

The really interesting thing about this map is its really fun with only a few players, all in jets and AA, and as such, I'm predicting it to be a pretty good seeder map

Not sure how well it will play thou with a 1/2 full server as then the guys on the ground might find it very hard to find anyone to shoot

For inf it'll be more like a 2km map I think which is good. A safe bet if a server isn't full.

vistamaster01 wrote:Come at me, I'm the biggest CAS whore known to man

Too bad you're horrible at it

Just get me in that Chinook and it'll be fun

as long as i get to be starlight ( ) itll be fun

Would it be possible to have a kit representing the Gurkhas, with kukri daggers and whatever they had?