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Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 14:09
by BroCop
The only time multi mappers are useful is if ones PC is made mostly out of wood so someone else needs to LM it
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 15:33
by Rhino
Multiple people working on the same map can work BUT, you first need an svn system setup and both mappers need to be in constant communication on what each other is doing, ie, one working on staticobjects where the other is working on painting down undergrowth or something, in order for there not to be any conflicts in their work and then for the mapper to only upload the files they know they have changed and revert the ones the editor has changed needlessly etc. The system also works well if only one mapper works on the map at a time, in different time zones so while one sleeps, the other works on it to avoid any conflicts, and once the other finishes they commit all their changes and leaves notes of what they have done, ready for the next person to take over.
With the latest tortoisesvn build it dose have a really good merging function for when it confronts conflicts but I'm not sure how well that's going to work for a massive staticobjects.con file if both mappers work on the statics at the same time, and things like terrain conflicts will not be possible for it to deal with.
But tbh this is quite advanced stuff we are talking here and I wouldn't advise it to anyone to do this without first a lot of experience of making maps and know how they work and what part of the editor affects what files etc.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 18:36
by Spush
GP_MineralWouter wrote:also, spush mentioned that I shouldn't worry about the AKM. Is this a confirmation about the AKM coming to PR in 1.0?
I think you're correct, I must of miss read the file names XD, so you can continue work on your AKM. Was thinking of the AKMS one.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 19:07
by Alek-say
[R-DEV]Spush wrote:I think you're correct, I must of miss read the file names XD, so you can continue work on your AKM. Was thinking of the AKMS one.
So, will be AKM in PR 1.0? Instead of AK-47? Or what?
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 19:24
by simeon5541
Alek-say wrote:So, will be AKM in PR 1.0? Instead of AK-47? Or what?
I think that AK47 don't have external differences,
so there is no need of adding almost same gun into PR,
also original AK47 is quite rare on today battlefield,
except Type 56 which is Chinese copy of original AK47,
everything other which we see on news are probably AKMs and its copies.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 19:30
by Alek-say
AKM is better than AK.
Also, it has compensator:
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 19:31
by M42 Zwilling
simeon5541 wrote:I think that AK47 don't have external differences,
so there is no need of adding almost same gun into PR,
also original AK47 is quite rare on today battlefield,
except Type 56 which is Chinese copy of original AK47,
everything other which we see on news are probably AKMs and its copies.
Actually, there are several small differences between the AK-47 and AKM. I think the most noticeable one is the slanted muzzle brake designed to reduce muzzle rise that was fitted to most AKMs.
EDIT: Wow, ninja-ed twice in one day.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 19:57
by simeon5541
That thing is removable so it is not real difference . . .
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 20:04
by Alek-say
simeon5541 wrote:That thing is removable so it is not real difference . . .
Look at this:
Compared to the AK-47, the AKM features detail improvements and enhancements that optimized the rifle for mass production; some parts and assemblies were conceived using simplified manufacturing methods. Notably, the AK-47's milled steel receiver was replaced by a U-shaped steel stamping. As a result of these modifications, the AKM?s weight was reduced by approx. 1 kg (2.2 lb), the accuracy during automatic fire was increased and several reliability issues were addressed. The AK-47's chrome-lined barrel was retained, a common feature of Soviet weapons which resists wear and corrosion, particularly under harsh field conditions and near-universal Eastern Bloc use of corrosive primed ammunition.
The AKM?s receiver, compared to the AK-47, has a stamped sheet metal housing to which a rear stock trunnion and forward barrel trunnion are fastened using rivets. The receiver housing also features a rigid tubular cross-section support that adds structural strength. Guide rails that assist the bolt carrier?s movement which also incorporates the ejector are installed inside the receiver through spot welding. As a weight-saving measure, the stamped receiver cover is of thinner gauge metal than that of the AK-47. In order to maintain strength and durability it employs both longitudinal and latitudinal reinforcing ribs.
AKM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 20:27
by simeon5541
Like I said,no real external differences,so there is no need
for AKM model,much better solution would be model of Type 56,
it is really common in Syrian Army and it have some external differences
comparing to AK-47 or AKM.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 20:32
by spawncaptain
The most apparent difference is the stock IMO.
[R-DEV]Spush wrote:I think you're correct, I must of miss read the file names XD, so you can continue work on your AKM. Was thinking of the AKMS one.
So there will be an AKMS but no AKM?
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 20:33
by Alek-say
AKM is more accurate than AK.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-11 21:11
by Mineral
Alek-say wrote:AKM is more accurate than AK.
AKM is back on the design plan as high priority. It's our main weapon. AKM is much different from AK-47. It's more the same then the AK-74 but still would need a new model for realism.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-12 03:54
by Alek-say
GP_MineralWouter wrote:AKM is back on the design plan as high priority. It's our main weapon. AKM is much different from AK-47. It's more the same then the AK-74 but still would need a new model for realism.
But, will you agree to use your AKM in standard PR?
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-12 04:03
by Doc.Pock
Wby not mate? Were using loads of PR stuff ATM too.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-12 09:25
by Alek-say
'[USF wrote:Doc.Pock;1813728']Wby not mate? Were using loads of PR stuff ATM too.
That's great! And, what about AA kits? Do you have some candidates?
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-12 10:44
by Mineral
Alek-say wrote:That's great! And, what about AA kits? Do you have some candidates?
we got designplans on the website
Please use that. And of course everything that we make is usable by anyone of PR.
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-18 08:18
by Mineral
[R-DEV]Spush wrote:We also have the zastava van that was modeled and textured by altfuture. Feel free to add a zpu on the technicals.
I would like to come back on this.I read
the thread and this model is just too beautiful to leave. This would indeed be a nice idea for our style of maps. (was the desert texture completed?)
My question is if the DEVS ever coded the model? If not I will try to contact the modeler to see if we can do it for him. It would really be a shame if this was never used
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-18 08:50
by rodrigoma
GP_MineralWouter wrote:I would like to come back on this.I read
the thread and this model is just too beautiful to leave. This would indeed be a nice idea for our style of maps. (was the desert texture completed?)
My question is if the DEVS ever coded the model? If not I will try to contact the modeler to see if we can do it for him. It would really be a shame if this was never used
he is online now XD
if we can get the model, lets just add a zpu-4 on it and ride it into battle!
Re: [WIP] Syrian Community mod - need help
Posted: 2012-09-18 10:10
by BroCop
The model is there and will be used, just dont panic