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Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 21:41
by Chefmoto1
sr.bambino wrote:Nope, no servers up... why can't the DDOS'ed servers just restart? Are they being DDOS'ed right away?
Read the Devs' posts man. The servers are down for maintenance/updating.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 21:43
by K4on
Crenshaw wrote:Because a stress test is just that. A test of the server architecture. You've seen the games that didn't have stress tests have an aneurysm on day one launches, even the big boys at DICE and EA seem to have those ALL THE TIME. This is NOT the PR 1.0 release. The DEVs released this for us to HELP THEM TEST THE SERVERS. So that's what they want us to do.

Shit, they've been making this game for years and they could've just stuck up the proverbial middle finger and not included anybody. But lo and behold, they let people in and they're complaining about why they can't be given more, more and more. Our JOB here is to stress test the server. NOT to play around.

People seem to have forgotten what Alpha and Beta tests are. They're not just instances where you get to play the game early. They generally have some goal in mind and this particular goal is to test the servers and well, it looks like that was done pretty well.

Honestly, conforming to the Devs has nothing to do with being right. Deal with it.

And to be more frank, all egos aside, this is from Slick on the page describing the beta:

This Open BETA release is a crucial part of the development cycle and while we have a great team of dedicated testers that have tirelessly helped find countless bugs, we simply cannot properly test gameplay and other features that require a mass amount of players. It is important that we find and fix any problems before we release the final version and we are asking you, the community which has supported us for the past 8 years, for your help in making the PR:BF2 v1.0 the best release yet!

In essence, they now need mass players to help out. Not co-op players.

-Crenshaw

Cheers, well summarized

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 21:47
by Cossack
Crenshaw wrote:Because a stress test is just that. A test of the server architecture. You've seen the games that didn't have stress tests have an aneurysm on day one launches, even the big boys at DICE and EA seem to have those ALL THE TIME. This is NOT the PR 1.0 release. The DEVs released this for us to HELP THEM TEST THE SERVERS. So that's what they want us to do.

Shit, they've been making this game for years and they could've just stuck up the proverbial middle finger and not included anybody. But lo and behold, they let people in and they're complaining about why they can't be given more, more and more. Our JOB here is to stress test the server. NOT to play around.

People seem to have forgotten what Alpha and Beta tests are. They're not just instances where you get to play the game early. They generally have some goal in mind and this particular goal is to test the servers and well, it looks like that was done pretty well.

Honestly, conforming to the Devs has nothing to do with being right. Deal with it.

And to be more frank, all egos aside, this is from Slick on the page describing the beta:

This Open BETA release is a crucial part of the development cycle and while we have a great team of dedicated testers that have tirelessly helped find countless bugs, we simply cannot properly test gameplay and other features that require a mass amount of players. It is important that we find and fix any problems before we release the final version and we are asking you, the community which has supported us for the past 8 years, for your help in making the PR:BF2 v1.0 the best release yet!

In essence, they now need mass players to help out. Not co-op players.

-Crenshaw
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Seems this man is only person that understands fully what is BETA test. Hats off for Crenshaw. Anyway, we implemented multiplayer only to test server performance and fix multiplayer issues that cant be found with 12 man test team. So if you look for things to try out, wait for release and help us to get there.

Why the hell we are even doing this?
PR is quality, and till we don't get our quality standards, there will no be a release.

Try to understand and help us or don't post useless stuff.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 21:50
by saXoni
spirit03 wrote:You should try to move a bit from computer.
Who is Computer?
spirit03 wrote:What exactly is so bad about playing around?
In principle "playing around" isn't bad, but that's not the reason why the DEVs have released this BETA, it's to test packed servers.
spirit03 wrote:That is exactly the way you will find errors. When you search for exact mistake in something it is less chance you will notice it then if you see it accidentaly for example when you are playing with it.
Uh... no?

spirit03 wrote:You are trying to conform DEVs and get them to like you. Please stop, you look silly.
No I'm not. I'm trying to tell you that the testers have done the job you'd like to do, and that your job when playing the BETA is to just be another person stressing the server even more.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 21:52
by DDS
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I think it's safe to say we should just be patient.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 22:15
by spirit03
saXoni wrote:Who is Computer?


In principle "playing around" isn't bad, but that's not the reason why the DEVs have released this BETA, it's to test packed servers.


Uh... no?



No I'm not. I'm trying to tell you that the testers have done the job you'd like to do, and that your job when playing the BETA is to just be another person stressing the server even more.
Sorry, I really haven't taken it this seriously.

Wish you all the best, bye :)

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 22:43
by mastik
sure this isn't for our current enjoyment, it is for our future enjoyment which these guys are working hard on.

I think most people here just want to have a bit of an idea of what is going on, a status suggesting servers down for updating will be back up tomorrow, soon, done for the day etc would be nice to satisfy the hunger we have for 1.0

For the few moments I was in the server it was quite enjoyable.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 22:49
by Pesticide
ye dito, im playing wot and streaming till servers go up again :(

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 22:52
by sr.bambino
Can a DEV message me the pw to the 123 server if they don't wanna publish it?

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 22:53
by Pesticide
lol and what makes you so special? Devs should charge 100USD donations for the password :D

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 23:15
by labonte95
I want to try this soooo bad :(

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-29 23:19
by Arab
I want to try this out too.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:14
by DDS
It was up and down and laggy so you really didn't miss a whole lot. On the upside the 64/64 has been going a while and hopefully will help them reveal the issues and we might get to slog it out in the next 7-8 days.

In the mean time who's hungry for a banana!
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Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:17
by Arab
DDS wrote:It was up and down and laggy so you really didn't miss a whole lot. On the upside the 64/64 has been going a while and hopefully will help them reveal the issues and we might get to slog it out in the next 7-8 days.

In the mean time who's hungry for a banana!
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Banana Split would be nice :)

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:19
by Philrow
saXoni wrote:Do you have any sources that can back up your claim?
Fairly sure Mineral, who was in contact with Ancient and the other DEVs, got told by Ancient that the servers was getting attacked, and that he'd go to sleep since he would be unable to make any hotfixes to fix the lag.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:23
by PricelineNegotiator
Wow devs, the 123 server was amazing. A lot of work has gone into 1.0 and it has shown. Damn good job.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:33
by DDS
Good to hear. I would think that ddos attack would also affect the 64/64 not just the 100/100.
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Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:43
by doop-de-doo
I played during the stress testing for Planetside 2 and it was pretty much the same thing.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:44
by ComedyInK
Philrow wrote:Fairly sure Mineral, who was in contact with Ancient and the other DEVs, got told by Ancient that the servers was getting attacked, and that he'd go to sleep since he would be unable to make any hotfixes to fix the lag.
Re-read AD's post on first page. The Mumble is causing issues, NOT DDoS attacks.

Re: No servers?

Posted: 2013-06-30 00:56
by Philrow
ComedyInK wrote:Re-read AD's post on first page. The Mumble is causing issues, NOT DDoS attacks.
How would Mumble be able to cause issues, and keep the servers down, if there's no players on them? And don't you think there'd have been more attempts and patches to fix it since 1.0.18 came out (about 5 hours ago)?

It's very obvious that it's getting DDOSed, or at least not anything related to Mumble.

Also, again, Mineral got told by AncientMan, before he went to sleep, that the servers was getting attacked. That was more or less the reason he went to bed, since he would be unable to patch it.