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Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-04 22:46
by Trooper909
Bluedrake42 wrote:"CAS doesn't win a game"
Here's an experiment, pit 2 factions against one another
give one faction an A10.
See what happens
old school al bazra with Yankees in A-10's aaand cobra's that re spawned.
What if I told you CAS make you more likely to lose because of the massive amount of tickets you lose for crashing one?
What if I told you assets heavy teams attract asset whores who care only about leet keeels and not winning a round and when they don't get there asset do nothing but do what the OP is all about.
BOOM!
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-04 23:03
by DDS
If there is no consequence to that behavior (bickering) then it will continue as it usually does. I often notice that admins are just annoyed at having to deal with it as opposed to continuing their own fun ingame. I rarely fly choppers because that issue and others having to do with logistics. "can we get a pick-up pilot". You fly there and are greeted with a dead squad and 2 tanks.
So, the jocks win!
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-04 23:49
by Wicca
If only there was a CAS pilot script <3
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-05 00:32
by [DVB]Shadow_Omega
What I hate about CAS players, and really, just about any asset in the game with any remote killing power, is that people will make several 1-2 man squads and lock them at the start, while people are struggling to get infantry squads going. It's ridiculous. Just make one squad for air assets, one squad for armor assets. THere doesn't need to be an APC squad, tank squad, IFV squad, helo squad, jet squad, helo with teeth squad, and a humvee squad. Admins need to get on top of that. It's as bad as someone making a squad for a sniper and his spotter. Seriously, bugger off with that ****.
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-05 02:01
by DDS
'[DVB wrote:Shadow_Omega;1912755']What I hate about CAS players, and really, just about any asset in the game with any remote killing power, is that people will make several 1-2 man squads and lock them at the start, while people are struggling to get infantry squads going. It's ridiculous. Just make one squad for air assets, one squad for armor assets. THere doesn't need to be an APC squad, tank squad, IFV squad, helo squad, jet squad, helo with teeth squad, and a humvee squad. Admins need to get on top of that. It's as bad as someone making a squad for a sniper and his spotter. Seriously, bugger off with that ****.
Interesting you mentioned that. I was going to start a thread but haven't thought it through in my head what a solution could be. I had the same thing happen several times. If I see a thread I have some thoughts on this.
Just need better servers to come online (which I would support financially.. hint hint) to see these problems addressed.
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-05 04:46
by Jolly
If there is no CAS at all, no one can really kill armors, and ppl would be tank whores.
CAS, good or bad, is necessary. It's a part of the GAME.
And CAS can do shit if the ground forces suck so bad.
But the fact is, we do not have lots of pilots as PROs. PPl hate CAS whores coz they dont have a chance to play with it. Or they are just too PRO and kill the enemies with nothing left.
Everyone, new or old thinks pilots and snipers look so awesome and they are feeling so good with it. when too much want it. WAR just begins.
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-05 07:22
by viirusiiseli
Yeah, CAS whores are all the bad in the world amiright? I think you =GS= guys proved that everybody gets frustrated if they really want to do something but can't, because someone else is doing it. Your clanmembers Raid7 and Welsh_sniper teamkilled a jet not once, but twice because you did not get it.
Taking a hard look at yourselves who complain would show you that not just "CAS whores" get upset if they don't get whatever they want. Everyone can get upset and start griefing or flooding the chat if they don't get what they want. Be it a good team or an asset. It's basic human reaction to losing something you want, sometimes you can be patient about it, sometimes not. It's not just something specific to "CAS whores".
And furthermore, it's a videogame, everyone will get mad, upset, sad and annoyed by whatever the reason. There's no reason to label certain people for certain things as we all have our moments. Someone gets mad at you or makes you mad? Shit happens. You move on.
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-05 07:41
by Inspektura43
ShaddyDaShadow wrote:When you see people like Viirus, Felixtugzilla, stemplus and others just join a server and claim the CAS squad everytime, see them switch servers once a map switches to a CAS map and they all join, or like for example when they die with the CAS on one team and teamswitch and take the CAS on the other team, im pretty sure you can call them all cas whores.. The only time they do not do CAS is if it's on a non CAS map and a cas map is next up. I never see them let other people do CAS at all really.
And when it's that bad when people dont even have manners to obey the asset squad rule which is pretty much a standard on all 0.98 servers now, but not in 1.0 sadly and see some of these guys join up after our CAS squad is created several minutes before they join, ( and for once I never rarely do CAS maybe have done it a total of 5 times) and make the squad "SQ1 is fake" which was our CAS squad, and later waiting for CAS to spawn at 50 on black gold, we let Viirus have the havok after asking, but a squad mate told him him and another guy was going to grab the 2 seat jet, ( I was spotter) and still viirus mates and squad members grabbed the 2 seat jet right as it spawned and started taking off.. Sadly my squad mate teamkilled them while taking off without my knowledge of intending to do so, but obviously this pissed him of a whole lot aswell as others, and was a pure douchebaggery move and you can probably or hopefully maybe understand now why everyone calls these guys cas whores and dislikes them.
Thats my argument..
Exactly 2 people are needed to claim CAS on a full server.
Make 2 cas squads 1:29 1:30 = win
So stop bitching
gday
Re: Why is CAS such a big deal?
Posted: 2013-07-05 07:45
by Jafar Ironclad
Looks like everyone's made their points and is starting to point fingers, so I think I'll lock this thread while its not a cluster#&$%.