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Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-03 19:31
by Souls Of Mischief
Keep the information coming guys. If the information won't be of any help to the DEV's, us poor SOB's might find it useful.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-03 21:29
by Prevtzer
{ZW}C-LOKE wrote:I don't know who mentioned it, but seriously, and against all logic, by setting dynamic lighting and dynamic shadows on, the video performance issues I was having are GONE!

Everything else set to low, with the exception of view distance and texture quality.


I also noticed when dynamic Lighting and Shadow were turned off, I was still seeing shadows on some vehicles and some statics, which should not have been the case. This could very well be the issue.
Didn't work for me.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-03 21:36
by SShadowFox
{ZW}C-LOKE wrote:I don't know who mentioned it, but seriously, and against all logic, by setting dynamic lighting and dynamic shadows on, the video performance issues I was having are GONE!
That seems awesome, I gonna try it myself and see if it works, but they still gotta fix the loading time for the maps.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-03 22:15
by Kevokpo
I have all settings on high, in all the maps I played so far, except for asad khal, I get about 40-30 fps as an avarage, maximum 100 minimum 20. lower than BF3 on ultra, it is not a big deal for me as I can lower the settings, im just posting my specs for the devs to help them solve these performance issues.

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Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 03:22
by Unhealed
ubermensche wrote:I noticed how anti-aliasing 8x improves the graphic issues a lot. But your computer needs to be powerful enough to handle it.
I think there is no difference for me, no matter how I change the settings it runs with the same framerate, I even tried to bring resolution down to 1024x768(it increases fps in every other game) but my fps was still the same. :lol:
Can't play with high texture settings thou becouse my game tends to crash more with them.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 03:54
by cheapman44
Has anyone currently found a fix for the CTD many people are having?

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 03:58
by Skitrel
{ZW}C-LOKE wrote:I don't know who mentioned it, but seriously, and against all logic, by setting dynamic lighting and dynamic shadows on, the video performance issues I was having are GONE!

Everything else set to low, with the exception of view distance and texture quality.


I also noticed when dynamic Lighting and Shadow were turned off, I was still seeing shadows on some vehicles and some statics, which should not have been the case. This could very well be the issue.
You're welcome!

I also pointed this out during the beta when people were having exactly the same issues. I'm glad someone has confirmed that this improves things for people other than just myself, I thought I might be going crazy.

Seems like there may be some sort of issue with the launcher forcing these settings causing the system to use way more resources than it would do if it isn't forcing these settings.

Like I said before, it'd be useful if someone could confirm exactly what settings are now forced so we can do more testing with it. I switched the two dynamic settings back to low and definitely lose 10fps compared to having them on medium.
Unhealed wrote:I think there is no difference for me, no matter how I change the settings it runs with the same framerate, I even tried to bring resolution down to 1024x768(it increases fps in every other game) but my fps was still the same. :lol:
Can't play with high texture settings thou becouse my game tends to crash more with them.
I also noticed this. No matter what other settings are changed, there is zero fps change on my end, barring the dynamic lighting ones on medium. I play in 1920x1080 but even going as far as 800x600 causes absolutely no performance change, nor visual change for that matter, as if the setting is actually changing nothing.

Posted: 2013-08-04 04:23
by ubermensche
Unhealed wrote:I think there is no difference for me, no matter how I change the settings it runs with the same framerate, I even tried to bring resolution down to 1024x768(it increases fps in every other game) but my fps was still the same. :lol:
Can't play with high texture settings thou becouse my game tends to crash more with them.
I think there has been a little misunderstanding here. At first, some people were complaining that even at high settings, everything looked as if it were on medium. And I just said that anti-aliasing 8x seems to solve/improve that issue. It's definitely not gonna increase the framerate. In fact it might actually do the opposite 'cause it uses additional CPU and RAM and everything.

And you guys noticed how the video settings can only be changed through the launcher now? You think that might play into it?

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 06:58
by Fresz
I ran few tests yesterday and today to try to find the source of FPS drop. First I thought it was Windows 64bit fault - but not really... It seems the trouble starts when there is more players than 64. If number of players is less than 64, number of fps triples - 100p = 15-20fps, 64p 40-70fps.
I will try to format my PC next day and than see if its the systems fault.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 07:29
by Bringerof_D
just throwing a thought out here, those of you who are getting low FPS despite having good hardware and those of you crashing or starting high and losing frame rate over time, could this be a symptom of overheating? do you have a small heat sink and only one or two fans in your computer? i ask because i notice that when i play certain games (PR is one of them) that my fans speed up and my case starts to get fairly hot over time. Also because i have not encountered this problem, all the times i lag spike can be directly attributed to my connection or is server related and is happening to everyone in the game.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 07:40
by {ZW}C-LOKE
@Skitrel,

All I know is, even with dynamic shadows and lighting off, I still see shadows and lighting on many things. Many things that should NOT have shadows or lighting. It would seem that somewhere along the lines, these are settings that are forced, and there is a potential conflict with trying to set them off, because now they've been hardcoded to be on. It could be that people are having performance issues because these are being forced, even though they're intentionally trying to turn them off.

Just my $0.02

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 07:56
by crokojot
I dont know what to say i see that there is some old computers but new ones too...there is no evident FPS drop for me unless some lag but that is not in bond with computer parts. Playing normal like 0.98 in 1920x1200 and i dont have a high-end PC.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 08:54
by Prevtzer
Can we get some DEV input here finally?

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 10:10
by Unhealed
crokojot wrote:I dont know what to say i see that there is some old computers but new ones too...there is no evident FPS drop for me unless some lag but that is not in bond with computer parts. Playing normal like 0.98 in 1920x1200 and i dont have a high-end PC.
Same for me, my PC sucks, I'm not getting a very good fps sometimes if there is a lot of players on the map, but then again it was like that in 0.98 too but now it's like that but with 100 player, cool! :-D
I have some fps issues on the new maps like many other people do but hey, they are new, they will be optimized later.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 10:40
by Fresz
Bringerof_D wrote:just throwing a thought out here, those of you who are getting low FPS despite having good hardware and those of you crashing or starting high and losing frame rate over time, could this be a symptom of overheating? do you have a small heat sink and only one or two fans in your computer? i ask because i notice that when i play certain games (PR is one of them) that my fans speed up and my case starts to get fairly hot over time. Also because i have not encountered this problem, all the times i lag spike can be directly attributed to my connection or is server related and is happening to everyone in the game.
Nice try. Not for me tho - Cooler Master V8 cooling temperature is 30C idle and about 40-43C running PR... My GTX470 is always same 55-60C no matter what I am running.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 10:43
by Raklodder
Bringerof_D wrote:could this be a symptom of overheating? do you have a small heat sink and only one or two fans in your computer?
My CPU is undervolted (less heat, lower power, increases lifespan) and have an NH-D14 on top, highly unlikely, sir.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 21:38
by Gracler
FlamingSoul wrote:I also have unplayable game now.. 40-50 fps, sometimes lower. Used to constant 100 in .98 (It also had some FPS drops on Ramiel, Fallujah, Kokan) :|
damn..... 40-50 fps and unplayable, that gotta be some alien eyes you have :D

those frame-rates would be plenty in most situations unless if your playing a night map or some high contrast map.

I guess your referring to 40-50 fps when your being static and it drops when moving or when a lot of action is going on and your fps is no longer stable, then I can see what your getting at.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 21:48
by rep
The weird thing about these fps drops is that it doesn't seem to be related to your hardware.. Even PCs with new and high performance hardware seem to have low fps too as well as gamers with an older setup.. Which makes me hope, that it can be fixed with a new patch. Or the whole thing is driver related which I could also imagine..


Hopefully DEVs will reply to this thread as it isn also the most commented thread in Bug Forum which deals with PR1.0..

An official statement from the DEVs would be very much appreciated :)

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 21:54
by Kothra
I'm pretty sure the FPS drops are related to the increased player numbers, especially when you're looking in the direction of where most of the players are on the map.

Though I don't remember such problems on the 100+ test servers before 1.0, so I figure it may be tied in with the launcher and/or mumble.


Someone should really post about this in the support forum though. I was going to, but I haven't done enough testing to really figure out how the player numbers are affecting performance.

Re: Major Performance Issues

Posted: 2013-08-04 21:58
by Spook
Nah was just the same with the beta. When you looked into direction of the main battle your FPS dropped.