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WelshManDan wrote:Meh, zombies are overused imo

I agree with this and the poll shows we are possibly not alone in our most humble opinions

Meh. I find opinions overrated more than anything else.

I think it's great you are building your modding skills on whatever you want to do.. If people play it with in the spirit you create it then I'm sure you'll find it rewarding. glhf

DDS wrote:I agree with this and the poll shows we are possibly not alone in our most humble opinions

No-one is disagreeing with that statement and if people would bother reading even the first page of this thread then they would be aware of it. But until now, no-one made any proper suggestion for the replacement of the zombies with some equivalent opponent that fits the "end of the world" survival scenario.

So basically, saying that zombies are over-used is a useless comment that doesn't contribute anything to the discussion. As you say, it is an opinion shared by others (me included), but most only voted since they didn't have anything constructive to add.

The poll however also shows that the majority is interested in a zombie minimod no matter how over-used those might be. However, what they will find is a survival focused game where the zombies are of little importance.

I would love to see this . Really like it when community members step up and create a minimod. I don't mind what kind of minimod it is, but it's awesome to see people do this. PR is a very nice base for all sort of events and minimods.

Good luck with this man, I know you will nail it .

Onil wrote:It would not take long to make... its half done as it is but it will probably always be in development unless if our current player base looses interest. And bots never "eat" players, they always kill players, no matter what game you play even if they have fancy animations.

You talk as if a minimod would EVER replace the main mod... are you kidding me? It you had bothered to read you would know that it would run on a pass-worded coop server and will never run on a normal PR server.

You would also know that one of the objectives is to make it require teamwork to balance the pvp gameplay. So yes it is comparable with DayZ but trying to improve certain gameplay features that DayZ attempted but wasn't able to deliver.

And we have "released" a test of this mod in a way, by organizing 3 events with it. It would be impossible to have everyone try it anyway as it requires some admin control for the time being. Your input should be based on the concept, which you obviously didn't read.

The Poll is only for us to have a general idea, we wont be relying on it that much. But it also serves as advertising since most people don't check the community modding part of the forum.

Yes I have read the entire main Post.

Then you obviously didn't understand most of it, based on your comment. I thought it was well explained.

I suggest that you re-read it and if you really want a more in-depth understanding of what the minimod is trying to achieve, then you should also read the concept which is linked in the main post.

Unlike the other minimods currently being developed for PR, this one requires the Control Panel as Anders Sound Mod also used. Meaning that it can only be played when enabled and only on servers that have been set for it. Besides the fact that the minimod includes quite a few server files that won't be spread. We will host our own server and that is most likely going to be the only available server as there is no need for more than one.

I'd love to play this mini-mod , we'll see how it turns out.

See, anytime the argument 'its been done before' is applied to a new minimod, people seem to overlook the fact that PR BF2 has a unique pace, and approach to combat. If this were a kickstarter for a new game based solely on the concepts described in the first post, that argument would apply. But combining just about any genre with core PR gameplay will produce a unique experience, at least insofar as combat is concerned.

Onil wrote:No-one is disagreeing with that statement and if people would bother reading even the first page of this thread then they would be aware of it. But until now, no-one made any proper suggestion for the replacement of the zombies with some equivalent opponent that fits the "end of the world" survival scenario.

So basically, saying that zombies are over-used is a useless comment that doesn't contribute anything to the discussion. As you say, it is an opinion shared by others (me included), but most only voted since they didn't have anything constructive to add.

The poll however also shows that the majority is interested in a zombie minimod no matter how over-used those might be. However, what they will find is a survival focused game where the zombies are of little importance.

Onil wrote:but most only voted since they didn't have anything constructive to add.

Didn't have anything constructive to add?? You read minds now Onil?

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:You really can't go fully off a poll however as people vote without fully thinking something though or without much of an idea on what they are voting on.

If it turns out to be a fine mod, wonderful. I just agree with others that the zombie concept is over used and much of my would be argument has already been addressed.

No matter how much you rage your case people will still disagree with you. You need to understand that if you plan on leading development of a MOD. It's not always about you.

DDS wrote:Didn't have anything constructive to add?? You read minds now Onil?

If it turns out to be a fine mod, wonderful. I just agree with others that the zombie concept is over used and much of my would be argument has already been addressed.

No matter how much you rage your case people will still disagree with you. You need to understand that if you plan on leading development of a MOD. It's not always about you.

Perhaps you need some glasses... my reply started with "no-one is disagreeing with that statement" and somewhere in the middle it said "it is an opinion shared by others (me included)". Which pretty much means that we're not in disagreement about what was said but about posting here only to say it.

It is a useless comment as it adds nothing to the discussion (and was already discussed enough in this thread) so you're better off just voting "not interested" and not posting here unless you actually have something constructive to add. It is that simple!

I'm sure if anyone that voted "not interested" would have anything to add to the discussion, they would have done so.

For example, i'm still waiting for someone to propose a better solution to the needed AI opponent, fitting the survival scenario of the minimod. Without an alternative, the zombies will have to do.

@ Walmarx

Yeah that is indeed the whole point of creating this minimod for PR. PR already has so much awesome content and gameplay that it becomes a pretty good choice, independently of how annoying the BF2 engine limitations can be. We'll see how it turns out.

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EDIT: Updated the first post with this:

One of our zombies was asked to help with the minimod's propaganda and this was the result:


- Credits:
Zombie Render made by R-CON Lordas
Original Quote Poster made by deviantArt artist Romancer
Composition made by Onil

Wave defense like mod would we a huge welcome, just do not make the maps dark and foggy as it really annoys me(cannot see clearly) I would like if the enemy simply used knifes and tried to swarm you.

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It's my observation that zombies are second only to ninjas, pirates, and monkeys in the list of things nerds like and need to shut the fuck up about.

Its such a shame the Omnicide mod has died out. it was a really fun zombie mod and the system really worked out with dead players being switched to the zombie team. maybe if it's still running you can use that mod as a reference

As far as I know, the Omnicide team is working on a new version using a PR map (Silent Eagle) as the base for their new release.

We have our own concepts for this minimod but we do intend to have zombie players as well. This will however be based on a humanity system that we're trying to implement.

We plan to eventually have 4 different "game-modes": Survival, Quest, Rivalry, and Last Stand. Survival can be played with or without zombies. Rivalry will be a pvp without any zombies. Quest and Last Stand will have zombies but we can easily turn the AI off and replace it with players for specific events.

So for the ones who aren't interested in zombies, there will be events without them.

For the ones interested in beta testing PR:Z, we will have our first gameplay beta test on the 2nd of November.

If you want in, send me a PM for further instructions.

This beta test might also be streamed on Twitch for the ones who can't participate in it but want to take a look at how it is. Highlights will be compiled out of the footage for later reviews.

No, this is a combat sim, not a noob kids F&@ck around!!!!!

Just because you might not enjoy this type of "games" doesn't mean they don't fit into PR.

PR is much more than a combat sim... it's good balance between reality and playability as well as it's set of rules that mod the player's behaviors are the main characteristics that make it a great option to develop projects for something fun and slightly different.

It continues to simulate combat even if with different factions, environments and game-modes. And it obviously doesn't replace the main mod, so what's the problem with providing something different to play once in a while?

Some people seem to have tunnel vision not just in game but in their way of looking at things too. Zombies may not be a very realistic thing to have in Project Reality, but an apocalypse scenario is not that unrealistic and within chaos and survival, there is often civilian combat.

Don't listen to the haters, they will voice their opinions more then those of us who see merit in what you're doing. Keep up the good work, I'm eager to see a PR:Z server up!

Sword_1977 wrote:No, this is a combat sim, not a noob kids F&@ck around!!!!!

lolwut?

First PR:Z Beta Test is going to be this Saturday at 18h00 PRT (17h30 for installation & Q&A).

We will try and record some footage to show you guys so that you can take an early peak at what has been done so far.