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Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2015-05-28 18:39
by CR8Z
Given that a 0 floor doesn't exist, us Americans call the ground floor the 1st floor, or at least in my neck of the woods.

If a building does not have multiple stories, we call it a one-story building. I.e., I live in a one-story, or single-story house.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-22 20:12
by MOSES!!
https://images.app.goo.gl/vj2xqJGXL1LmrUfH9

In America The ground floor is the us first floor its the first floor were coming into. when playing urban maps i hear alot of international players say ground floor and first flr in their term which in my term is first and second which would confuse the inter and us players a bit. say theres an ar on the 4th floor of the t building it would be the 3rd floor in inter terms.

I wouldnt say its a problem but 7 years on its still a thing saying bottom floor as the first in inter from the start is like saying the first floor in the us

Your friends aren't stupid mineral its how we say our floors if i came to yalls countries and say first as ground/bottom yall gonna call me out because its a different meaning over there

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-22 20:44
by bad_nade
MOSES!! wrote:The eu ground floor is the us first floor its the first floor were coming into.
It's not EU thing, it's naming convention from UK (and UK only if I'm not mistaken) and UK is no longer part of EU. For example, here in Finland the first floor is the one on the ground level.

If it's not obvious from the context, I usually ask if somebody is using UK or US floor system when they start talking about floors.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-22 22:01
by Brotherscompany
This confusion will keep existing as long as PR exists

Ground floor is a lot more intuitive for everyone because its the ground so it has to be bellow the 1st floor.

I'm not even sure what term each variation uses but l think a person that struggles with English can easily arrive to that conclusion so l think its by far the best term to use

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-24 20:52
by Grump/Gump.45
In USA we have many different setups.

G can be Garage or Ground

L is always Lobby if the building has one

G1 and G2 is different underground garage floors.

Ground floor and first floor of a house are interchangeable.

You come across American elevator, this is what you might see.

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

G - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

G - L - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

G1 - G2 - L - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-24 22:51
by WingWalker
Ground floor or 1st floor in USA is normal.

In PR I find the confusion is when you mean the top floor, and not the roof.

I will often call out " HE IS ON THE TOP FLOOR" and I do not mean the roof, then I have to explain the 3rd floor or whatever.
Grump/Gump.45 wrote:In USA we have many different setups.
You mean in Ireland?

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-24 23:00
by Coalz101
I call first floor ground floor interchangeably, but I don't call second floor first floor, boom problem solved.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-25 01:55
by MOSES!!
Coalz101 wrote:I call first floor ground floor interchangeably, but I don't call second floor first floor, boom problem solved.
Roof
5 Top Floor
4
3
2
G/B 1st Floor

Like this right just make the Ground/Bottom Floor same as the 1st floor. For pr itself then no confusion

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-26 20:07
by Death!
SANGUE-RUIM wrote:in Brazil:

ground
1st floor
2nd floor
3rd floor
4th floor

just like in the elevators... :)

and bottom floor is not the 1st floor, your friends are wrong and you are right :D

No idea where you live, but this logic pretty much only applies to buildings with elevators here in Rio. I live in a 5 storey building and there is no "ground floor", only first floor and beyond. There are actually units on the first floor, so I guess it's the same case as the russian building in PR.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-27 18:04
by SemlerPDX
WingWalker wrote:You mean in Ireland?
Maybe he's one of those Americans who says, "I'm Irish", or "I'm Italian", because their great great grandfathers moved to America from that country generations before they were born in America?
:lol:
Death! wrote:No idea where you live...
...also American. Where the ground floor IS the first floor, and where the top floor is not the roof. This also does not change if the building has an elevator. BTW, they call that a lift in the UK... I guess we're just raised differently.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-05-31 20:08
by UncleSmek
Bottom Floor=Ground Floor
1st
2nd
3rd
2nd to top
Top Floor

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-06-02 08:33
by MOSES!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storey#Numbering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_numbering_floors.svg

Floor numbering is the numbering scheme used for a building's floors. There are two major schemes in use across the world. In one system, used in the majority of European countries, the ground floor is the floor at ground level, frequently having no number, and identified by a word or letter, varying by language (e.g. "G" for 'Ground' in English), or "0" (zero) in an elevator that has strictly numbered buttons. The next floor up is assigned the number 1 and is the first floor (first elevation), the first basement level gets '-1', and so on. The other system, used in such countries as the United States, Canada, China, Japan, Russia, and other ex-Soviet states, counts the bottom floor as the first floor, the next floor up as the second floor, and so on.In both systems, the numbering of higher floors continues sequentially as one goes up,

Height relative to ground (Floors) European scheme North American schemes
Top floor Penthouse (PH), Roof (R/RF),
2 levels above ground floor 2nd floor (2/2F) 3rd floor (3/3F)
1 level above ground floor 1st floor (1/1F) 2nd floor (2/2F)
Partially above ground floor Upper ground (UG), Upper level (UL), Mezzanine (M), etc.
Ground Floor Ground floor (G/GF), Lobby (L), Street (S)
0th floor (0/0F) 1st floor (1/1F)
Partially below ground floor Lower ground (LG), Lower level (LL), Concourse (C), Parking (P), etc.
1 level below ground floor 1st basement (?1/?1F/B1)
2 levels below ground floor 2nd basement (?2/?2F/B2)

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-06-02 10:09
by Nate.
MOSES!! wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storey#Numbering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_numbering_floors.svg

Floor numbering is the numbering scheme used for a building's floors. There are two major schemes in use across the world. In one system, used in the majority of European countries, the ground floor is the floor at ground level, frequently having no number, and identified by a word or letter, varying by language (e.g. "G" for 'Ground' in English), or "0" (zero) in an elevator that has strictly numbered buttons. The next floor up is assigned the number 1 and is the first floor (first elevation), the first basement level gets '-1', and so on. The other system, used in such countries as the United States, Canada, China, Japan, Russia, and other ex-Soviet states, counts the bottom floor as the first floor, the next floor up as the second floor, and so on.In both systems, the numbering of higher floors continues sequentially as one goes up,

Height relative to ground (Floors) European scheme North American schemes
Top floor Penthouse (PH), Roof (R/RF),
2 levels above ground floor 2nd floor (2/2F) 3rd floor (3/3F)
1 level above ground floor 1st floor (1/1F) 2nd floor (2/2F)
Partially above ground floor Upper ground (UG), Upper level (UL), Mezzanine (M), etc.
Ground Floor Ground floor (G/GF), Lobby (L), Street (S)
0th floor (0/0F) 1st floor (1/1F)
Partially below ground floor Lower ground (LG), Lower level (LL), Concourse (C), Parking (P), etc.
1 level below ground floor 1st basement (?1/?1F/B1)
2 levels below ground floor 2nd basement (?2/?2F/B2)
Finally lol

/thread

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-06-02 16:16
by D.Arya
Nah, the bottom floor=first floor is more reasonable
so what is it gonna be?

Than
3rd floor
2nd floor
1st floor
floor
Basement

Instead
3rd floor
2nd floor
bottomfloor/1stfloor
Basement

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-06-02 17:42
by SemlerPDX
D.Arya wrote:so what is it gonna be?
Simple... when in Rome, do as the Romans do.... don't be stuck headstrong in your own interpretation.

Adapt, learn your team & who is speaking and what they are referring to, and when in doubt, ask a clarifying question.

There will never be consensus here on this matter among all PR players.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-06-03 11:42
by UncleSmek
SemlerPDX wrote:Simple... when in Rome, do as the Romans do.... don't be stuck headstrong in your own interpretation.

Adapt, learn your team & who is speaking and what they are referring to, and when in doubt, ask a clarifying question.

There will never be consensus here on this matter among all PR players.
Yes, therefore do as the king(me) tells you.

Re: first floor - bottom floor?

Posted: 2022-06-03 17:29
by Brotherscompany
MOSES!! wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storey#Numbering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_numbering_floors.svg

Floor numbering is the numbering scheme used for a building's floors. There are two major schemes in use across the world. In one system, used in the majority of European countries, the ground floor is the floor at ground level, frequently having no number, and identified by a word or letter, varying by language (e.g. "G" for 'Ground' in English), or "0" (zero) in an elevator that has strictly numbered buttons. The next floor up is assigned the number 1 and is the first floor (first elevation), the first basement level gets '-1', and so on. The other system, used in such countries as the United States, Canada, China, Japan, Russia, and other ex-Soviet states, counts the bottom floor as the first floor, the next floor up as the second floor, and so on.In both systems, the numbering of higher floors continues sequentially as one goes up,

Height relative to ground (Floors) European scheme North American schemes
Top floor Penthouse (PH), Roof (R/RF),
2 levels above ground floor 2nd floor (2/2F) 3rd floor (3/3F)
1 level above ground floor 1st floor (1/1F) 2nd floor (2/2F)
Partially above ground floor Upper ground (UG), Upper level (UL), Mezzanine (M), etc.
Ground Floor Ground floor (G/GF), Lobby (L), Street (S)
0th floor (0/0F) 1st floor (1/1F)
Partially below ground floor Lower ground (LG), Lower level (LL), Concourse (C), Parking (P), etc.
1 level below ground floor 1st basement (?1/?1F/B1)
2 levels below ground floor 2nd basement (?2/?2F/B2)
Thank you, take my Reddit upvote.

Legit this discussion is taking such proportions for such a thing that wasnt ever a huge problem in PR.
For years l played on EU and NA time l never had to have this discussion before, everyone just understood each other or just made the simple question if they didn't get it