viirusiiseli wrote:Those guys were always there yeah. But the gen pop of servers is worse now than what it was.
Some highly debated changes is where most veteran players from olden days quit, though. As infantry became more COD or CS like, where you didn't need to master deviation anymore. After that, quality of players has gone down significantly.
I lead a few squads in 0.85 for example, before mumble. People joined your squad, picked up their kits and followed you most of the time. Even without saying a word they'd usually do the right things. Maybe a squad marker for building the FOB here and an attack marker on an enemy there and it would just work. Shit, you could be quiet the entire round and have more teamwork than now with all the "great comms".
They had the grasp of the game better, there was a flow to the game that I'd take over this new-age PR teamwork **** that seems to be nothing but mumble spam.
Lead a squad now and you'll have most of the people asking whether or not they should take the medic kit, follow you, get into that helicopter or shoot at the enemies. You have to tell them everything. Even then the outcome is not as good, since they don't learn for themselves. They wait to be told.
This makes new players never learn how to do it themselves. All the excess communication and telling people what to do is just an illusion of teamwork.
They're supposed know what to do when shit hits the fan, just like in real life. Now that'd be teamwork, no extra comms, just people who know what to do. Sadly thats not the case in PR anymore.
You're actually right.
Last night I kicked 3 people from my squad and took in new ones during the duration of a round since they didnt seem to learn anything I told them.
At one point I had 2 medics healing one guy in the middle of combat, I told one of the medics to back off and help cover instead, but he started arguing it was faster. I don't care if it's faster, if I ask you to back off and help covering, you back the fuck off and let the first medic do his job. One nade and we would have both medics down.
People don't seem to have the same "respect" for orders and sticking together. We were about to move out on Lashkar valley when I saw a guy in my squad wander off to clear a compound alone, without even telling us. I told him to get back in formation so we could move out, and he starts arguing why his decision is better. I don't care if he thinks it's better, I have a bigger plan of moving, and I want to move RIGHT NOW even though he doesn't think so. I kicked him in the middle of his arguments after several attempts earlier to make him scream less and play more.
I had a guy screaming MEDIC, MEDIC!!!!!!! whenever he went down. I told him to stay put and wait, medics were doing their job. He kept screaming for a medic when the medics were busy healing up the rest if the squad. I told him to say "man down" next time he went down, and medics would get to him in time. Needless to say, next time he didn't say ANYTHING and just gave up and respawned. When asked why he respawned, he thought it took too long for the medics to get him.
Edit: I also had a guy running across the map when I set an observe marker on the enemies. He thought it was a move order, even though I never said such a thing. I specifically said: "Tangos on marker".
How that ends up as move to marker is beyond my belief