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Hey, thats our policy. Is that hard to understand or something?

You also called a player faggot after they requested a ride with him, causing the player to fire a LAT at your vehicle. To which you report the player that he is attempting to teamkill, and further waste assets.

Which results in us banning him. Quite awkward.

Maybe you should learn some manners and not behave like you do? It only seems to get you and your friends in trouble..

Or when Trsztan an admin on our team accidentally fail a landing in the main, causing one of your members to lose their temper completely, and yell at him, even after he apologized.

Or when FFG was unwilling to follow admin commands after repeated warnings and was permanently banned from our server..

I also recall you bullying an admin on our team, contacting bluedrake about it, and then recording bluedrake saying he actually doesnt like him, upload that video, causing the admin to resign.

I am sure you guys are quite happy about yourself, but to me, and until you are no longer in my attention, TZ is rotten to the core.

Maybe you guys could take some feedback like real men, and show me how you should deal with it? Or perhaps you see now how frustrating it is to deal with people whos only objective is to push everyone else except themselfs down.

Wicca wrote:I don't think bullying administrators is a very ok thing to do. Therefore you along with a few of your friends have been banned from our server.

Firstly, Bullying is a strong word. If you use google and search you would see this.



We didn't "bully" anyone. We pointed out an admins mistake. This isn't Highschool, TZ are not cramming the kid into a locker.

Wicca wrote:You have really no interest in improving the server with your feedback, but instead your aim is to create situations to point out so you can tarnish our name, both in private and in public as you are doing now.

Well up until some of us were banned, We generally had to play on your server. We don't have the option to play on a server that suits our style, Theres at max 300 NA players. past 6pm my time, it drops down as low as 60.

If we didn't care we wouldn't say anything. We don't care for your server, we care for the game.

Wicca wrote:Which really prompts me to not care for your statements in this thread.

No its just easier to try to discredit our opinions and ignore the feedback.

Wicca wrote:Now if you genuinely want to get a fair trial on this, and you do have the best interest of the server in mind I will definitely hear you out.

Nah, its fine.

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Wicca wrote:Little squid already resigned after bluedrake was recorded by m42zwilling, a developer of this community btw, stating that he did not like little squid.

He was merely there, I was the one talking to BD. As a friend of his, I spoke to him about the current state of his server. He names all his servers "FCV X", and with the publicly available examples of admin abuse, Doesn't really look good for his brand.

Wicca wrote:Similarly FFG has been banned before from our server, for berating admins, yelling at them, not following admin orders etc.

Yes, I was banned for uploading a video of one of your admins who claimed I was inside the enemy DoD while playing under a different name.

Wicca wrote:Further, no report was given to me in a proper setting or with any fault of the said admin to give me any reason to doubt him.

But in the past on multiple occasions, issues had been brought up in the shoutbox which you had dealt with.

Wicca wrote:And if he was at mistake, he would tell me and apologize. Which he would even do in a public domain to the people he wronged.

Now we both know this is a lie. While he apologised publicly.
Context : Little squid kicked myself from FCV for "Nazi shit". [quote=""squid"][10:34 AM] Little Squid: @FFG holy shit i am super sorry, I will talk with general myslef. I am incredibly sorry. [/quote]

squid wrote:This is the beginning of your direct message history with @Little Squid.
[10:35 AM] Little Squid: you want to stop being a little shit?
[10:36 AM] Little Squid: because you act like a 10 year old found daddy's sailor dictionary.

[quote="Wicca""]This is an issue with TZ and Zwilling and FFG, not with our admin team. They have proven time and time again that they are unable to behave or follow directions on our servers with our admins. They will stay out. And that is how I chose to deal with it.[/quote]

Sure. its an issue with [TZ], Thats why only some of us in the Hive mind are banned.

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Wicca wrote:Hey, thats our policy. Is that hard to understand or something?

I mean, the reactions are completely over the top. so yeah, it stupid.

Wicca wrote:You also called a player faggot after they requested a ride with him, causing the player to fire a LAT at your vehicle. To which you report the player that he is attempting to teamkill, and further waste assets.

Which results in us banning him. Quite awkward.

So both parties are at fault, so you fail to investigate properly and ban the wrong person? Calling someone a faggot is bad, but firing at a LAT at friendlies because your upset isn't better.

But if you can't take being insulted on the internet, should you really be on it?

Wicca wrote:Maybe you should learn some manners and not behave like you do? It only seems to get you and your friends in trouble..

To each their own.

Wicca wrote:Or when Trsztan an admin on our team accidentally fail a landing in the main, causing one of your members to lose their temper completely, and yell at him, even after he apologized.

I would expect the same to happen to TZ, They wouldn't report their Fee Fees hurt if they fucked up.

Wicca wrote:Or when FFG was unwilling to follow admin commands after repeated warnings and was permanently banned from our server..

Ohh im sorry, I must not have been there. When was this? When I was being a neo nazi on your server? or when?

Wicca wrote:I also recall you bullying an admin on our team, contacting bluedrake about it, and then recording bluedrake saying he actually doesnt like him, upload that video, causing the admin to resign.

I mean, We could have just gotten squid into the same channel with bluedrake. It would be just as effective. But then again, Should we forgive people like cisco who sabotaged your community as well?

Wicca wrote:I am sure you guys are quite happy about yourself, but to me, and until you are no longer in my attention, TZ is rotten to the core.

Yeah, We are the worst of the worst. The most cancer, veil, scum to have graced the earth.



We are a hive mind of cancer, I control everything Zwilling, Mickey, and everyone else in Tier Zero does.

Wicca wrote:Maybe you guys could take some feedback like real men, and show me how you should deal with it? Or perhaps you see now how frustrating it is to deal with people whos only objective is to push everyone else except themselfs down.

Much like you and the FCV admins set the example? Every single time we report anything, we've been told to "act like adults" while your admins kick and ban us for stupid shit. Your admins have sat in our squads and spied on us.

The best part, was when your admins wouldn't admit they fucked up and called upon more admins to help them defend themselves because they couldn't admit they fucked up.

When i spoke about it with SaintOneesan he said that you even admitted that squid was over the line and part of the problem.

Wicca wrote:Maybe you guys could take some feedback like real men, and show me how you should deal with it?

Look at the =]H[= Feedback thread. I do it regularly, I communicate with people on discord all the time. I also don't kick or ban people for insulting myself. Because I hold the position of power and have the responsibility.

Much love

So let me a couple things straight. First Wicca, do you honestly believe that FCV admins have handled all of this faultlessly?

Second, what exactly was I banned for? I only see two messages that round directed at LittleSquid before he decided to kick me.

When a friendly APC took out his APC: So am I correct in saying you consider this bullying and worthy of a permaban?

I think TZ is more interested in having laughs and being edgy, than trying to bring things to my attention. Simple as that. Cant try to be all righteuss about it now..

Wicca wrote:I think TZ is more interested in having laughs and being edgy, than trying to bring things to my attention. Simple as that. Cant try to be all righteuss about it now..

Wicca you still fail to answer any of these allegations simply and truthfully. Appear to be to focused on making TZ this big secret organization. I don't understand why you can't accept that squid was way out of line and instead of dealing with it you had a different admin banned for trying to fix the real problem. I also don't see how we are edgy when squid called one of us a "fucking ****" for killing his apc.

Much love,
[TZ] Mickey_Mouse

Wicca wrote:I think TZ is more interested in having laughs and being edgy

I mean to be fair Mickey this is totally true tho lol

Mickey Mouse wrote:Wicca you still fail to answer any of these allegations simply and truthfully. Appear to be to focused on making TZ this big secret organization. I don't understand why you can't accept that squid was way out of line and instead of dealing with it you had a different admin banned for trying to fix the real problem. I also don't see how we are edgy when squid called one of us a "fucking ****" for killing his apc.

Much love,
[TZ] Mickey_Mouse

The point is, none of this gets to my attention properly, same way as before FFG goes on a tangent in the FCV discord. I ban him from the discord and I tell LS to stop responding like that.

I mean I had a long argument with FFG a few months ago, where I end up banning FFG from FCV, where he responds with banning me from Based. The basic issue here was that FFG just did not respect our admin team, and were not following orders given by admins.

Not to mention I receive a PM from FFG about the PMs LS sent him, which I confronted LS about and told him to stop.

Clearly you guys know he is easily triggered, and were just taunting him. At every point of the way, LS apologized. You however have not apologized for your behaviour. So unless I saw that LS was in complete fault I would act, but mostly it was just an equal share of the blame both ways. Causing me to just focus on containment..

And at this point I am not going to waste my time fetching every log, recording and PM list to prove my point, since LS is no longer on our admin team, and you are all mostly banned.

Now since you clearly state that you are not interested in getting unbanned, and FFG is an admin on Hardcore, I would suggest you stop attacking my server to promote your own.

Any further complaint can be sent to me via PM, discord or our forum.

Wicca wrote:Any further complaint can be sent to me via PM, discord or our forum

I don't think this is the proper way to address this. Asking community members to log into your services to voice their opinion is just begging for it to be buried or censored. Posting here, publicly, is the best way to ensure that the PR community as a whole is made aware of the problems players face on your server.


[TZ] ReapersPr0digy
Former Best Admin NA

Wicca wrote:
Any further complaint can be sent to me via PM, discord or our forum.

Too bad I was banned from the FCV discord for writing a cool little action story paper for Wicca's campaign idea. I posted the google doc link to his channel on the discord and was promptly banned right afterwards. He contacted me through PM later on asking me on why I thought I was banned and he explained to me that I was banned for "trolling his community" and "disrupting operations". My question is why would I be banned for that reasoning even though I helped him develop this campaigns idea. (I still fully support this idea and think it would be fun). https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DSy ... KVSwDN5Fq0

The link above is the same link I gave him for the idea as he wanted someone to type up a little background story about a possible campaign. As for ingame server feedback, I feel as if admins are too concerned about having their word as law in the server and the rule book is a big guessing game for players. The rules are constantly changed without warning and give admins full discretion over any event in order to favor themselves. As for positive feedback, I have an okay ping to the server. However there was better alternatives for east coast US players that wanna have legitimate fun without the worry of being unrightfully punished over petty arguments and unqualified admins.

FFG wrote: Should we forgive people like cisco who sabotaged your community as well?

Wicca wrote:...I end up banning FFG from FCV, where he responds with banning me from Based.

That must've hurt.

Im bored and I read this, and it seems, not saying that it is, but it just seeeeeems, kiiiiindaaaaaa that TZ is running out of populated servers to play on?

Heavy Death wrote:That must've hurt.

Im bored and I read this, and it seems, not saying that it is, but it just seeeeeems, kiiiiindaaaaaa that TZ is running out of populated servers to play on?

Naw we have plenty of servers to play on we just hate watching the entire PR NA community that actually plays the game getting banned for having fun or just typing "strike 4" leaving just the milsims and the DRK/NP kids who will eventually get banned for making actual mistakes.

Jello wrote:Too bad I was banned from the FCV discord for writing a cool little action story paper for Wicca's campaign idea. I posted the google doc link to his channel on the discord and was promptly banned right afterwards. He contacted me through PM later on asking me on why I thought I was banned and he explained to me that I was banned for "trolling his community" and "disrupting operations". My question is why would I be banned for that reasoning even though I helped him develop this campaigns idea. (I still fully support this idea and think it would be fun). https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DSy ... KVSwDN5Fq0

The link above is the same link I gave him for the idea as he wanted someone to type up a little background story about a possible campaign. As for ingame server feedback, I feel as if admins are too concerned about having their word as law in the server and the rule book is a big guessing game for players. The rules are constantly changed without warning and give admins full discretion over any event in order to favor themselves. As for positive feedback, I have an okay ping to the server. However there was better alternatives for east coast US players that wanna have legitimate fun without the worry of being unrightfully punished over petty arguments and unqualified admins.

I didnt unban you since I forgot. Had alot of real life work and projects. I will do that now

Mickey Mouse wrote:Naw we have plenty of servers to play on we just hate watching the entire PR NA community that actually plays the game getting banned for having fun or just typing "strike 4" leaving just the milsims and the DRK/NP kids who will eventually get banned for making actual mistakes.

Yeah, TZ is the entire NA community.. Plz.. Go take your delusions of grandeur elsewhere.

Regardless, this issue has been dealt with. I feel I was able to post my POV, and I am sure you felt you got yours.

Wicca wrote:Regardless, this issue has been dealt with. I feel I was able to post my POV, and I am sure you felt you got yours.

This is not, has not, and never should be based on opinions or points of view. The facts plainly state that you and your admin team have been abusing your powers by kicking and banning members of specific clans (not just [TZ]) because you may or may not have a bias against them. The fact is you have brought personal issues into your Admining which should never be done. By doing this you have undermined your own ability to make logical decisions. If you have a better explanation for your actions that you can express without pointing fingers i'd love to hear it, if not I believe based on the facts you are unable to fully carry out your duties as an admin and this has trickled down into nearly every member of your team. The few admins who have tried to stand up to this madness were promptly banned. Please just take your personal issues elsewhere or step down.

Sincerely,
Mick

Your leader FFG suffers from mental rage issues, as he proved countless times in PRTA and even lately on FCV.

You join our server, we tell you what to do. Simple as that, if you cant follow direction, you get warned, kicked and eventually banned. Not sure how this is being biased.
And if you have issues with admins I assume you report them?
Have you ever reported an admin on our server using our forums? A
nd were you gagged and censored?
Perhaps you are just spreading rumors. Suggesting I have personal issues is ludicrus, and now you are just grasping at straws. It might be easy for someone in your position to ask for me to step down, since you have no backbone nor any idea what makes a server run.

The only one suffering personal issues resides withing your own clan. As your so called ability to take down servers, or admins on your will by use of social engineering. Great agendeas there, what are you? The justice league of PR? The heroes we need right now, but not the ones we deserve? Please.. Take your ego elsewhere.

How is this perpetuating commentating of FCV going to help you? Or anyone else?
This forum does not work, people are either to biased, they have an agenda, or they just wanting to see the world burn. Noone reads this, the community consists of about 20.000 players, of which about 50 people read this, and maybe 10 comment.

But thanks for warning those 50 people, they are very grateful for your service!

Wicca wrote: or they just wanting to see the world burn.

You rang?

Still waiting to hear exactly what I was banned for.

[R-DEV]M42 Zwilling wrote:Still waiting to hear exactly what I was banned for.

Partaking in bullying an admin.

If you disagree, feel free to appeal on our forums.

Wicca wrote: And if you have issues with admins I assume you report them?
Have you ever reported an admin on our server using our forums? And were you gagged and censored?

yes and yes.

I had a problem with you as previously stated. At the time the forums were not up so you created a report chat in discord. I reported it there and it was never handled whatsoever. Also if I recall properly around 5 or 6 reports were filed in this chat, all of them pertaining to you or LS. None of them were handled properly then all the sudden the channel was gone. Were the reports moved to the forums to be handled? nope they just magically vanished. sounds like gagging to me.

Wicca wrote:Partaking in bullying an admin.

If you disagree, feel free to appeal on our forums.

Again, what did I do that is being considered bullying? Was it just the two messages, "strike 4" and "mad", that I mentioned before?