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Posted: 2007-04-19 05:16
by Fenix16
Granted I only had time to watch 2 mins of that, the only M16 that I saw without an ACOG had an M203 attached to it which is an understandable tradeoff.
El_Vikingo wrote:You don't know if they are the same guys.
You haven't posted any pictures of them without a scope.
Leave the decisions to the one's who have been there.
Two (maybe three) of those pictures are M4A1s (or varients, don't know much about'em).
He said nothing about the m16 specifically having ACOGS, he stated that US Riflemen (in general) do not "friggen" use them.
Posted: 2007-04-19 07:30
by Cheeseman
Let me make it clear; The M16A4 (Mainly issued to USMC) is mostly equipped with Trijicon TA31RCO ACOG optical sights. In close courter operations you can find M16A4’s with EOTech reflex sights (Many soldiers purchase with their own money) or the main carrying handle. One of the reasons why the M16A4 is mostly equipped with ACOG sights is, because the A4 is a longer range weapon and has a 20-inch barrel, meaning it’s more of a sharp shorter weapon compared to the M4 Carbine which is for close courter combat. Don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t mean the USMC doesn’t engage in close courter operations, what I mean is that the M16A4 is a more precise weapon compared the M4. Also on a side note, the ACOGs possess greater magnification compared to red dot/laser sights such as the M86 and EOTech which are more of a aimpoint. The M4 Carbine (Now being issued to the US Army, also used by the USMC) is mostly equipped with Aimpoint CompM2/M68 CCO or EOTech style sights. In particular occasions the M4 would also be seen with the ACOG type (TA01NSN which has Bullet Drop Compensator) optical sights; it all depends on the mission. You’ll also notice that most M4 Carbines equipped with the Aimpoint CompM2 have a backup flip-up sight in case the optical runs out of battery or gets damaged. But rifles fitted with the ACOG type sights usually don’t have any backup sights installed, this is because the ACOG series do not use batteries.
So in short:
USMC
ACOG> CompM2
US Army
ACOG< CompM2
Fenix16 wrote:He said nothing about the m16 specifically having ACOGS, he stated that US Riflemen (in general) do not "friggen" use them.
The U.S. Marine Corps is actually planning on equipping
every rifle with optical sights in the near future.
Posted: 2007-04-19 16:50
by Bob_Marley
Cheeseman wrote:
The U.S. Marine Corps is actually planning on equipping every rifle with optical sights in the near future.
As part of FIST the SUSAT is due to be phased out of the British army and replaced with an new optical sight (last I heard the leader in for this was the ACOG). FIST is due to start in 2008, and from what I understand PRM is set after then, but I'm still seeing ACOGs...
Posted: 2007-04-20 03:18
by xseeyax
I dont know why but I have a real problem using this gun for some reason i dont no why, any suggestions?
Posted: 2007-04-20 03:40
by Raniak
Use single shot more ?
Or if you already use it... try burst ?
Posted: 2007-04-20 03:57
by system
Cheeseman wrote:I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you use the "Search" button you'll find plenty of posts on this topic. It has been mentioned that the current M16A2 will be replaced by a M16A4. The USMC in reality uses the M16A4 and not the M16A2 (used by the US Army), so it is planned to be changed in future release. Also the rifleman kits M16A4 will be equipped with an ACOG type sight.
There's many ACOG sights--so presumably X4?