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TF6049 wrote:Uh, VOIP is just as unfair as TrackIR.

To say it's "unfair" isn't quite right, I mean I could say that someone using a G-15 keyboard has an unfair advantage over me who doesn't, does someone using a lazer mouse have an unfair advantage over someone using a rollerball mouse? PC gaming is all about technology, someone could buy a G-15 keyboard, I choose to buy TrackIR, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Besides look at the great mod to build your own tracker in this thread! it's a whole new gaming experience once you put your head in the game especially when flying jets. I really don't like it in 1st person like in Arma and just switch my tracker off, but as soon as I jump in a jet. on it goes!

OK maybe slightly off topic, ish,

But without IR tracking, Is there any way at all to Free Look ? apart from when your not in a jet ?

would it be possible to implement it into the Game without the need for IR to make it fair to all gamers playing ?

i think it'd be great, you could be sat laid still and still look around - I think one of the biggest dissapointments with anything to do with battle field, is the Field of View - Close quarters firefights are not realistic in a sense as once they get to a certain point on the screen they vanish out of sight ... lol ......... makes it more guessing work, whereas with free look you'd be able to tell exactly where they are ....... near or far

=UKHC=Neoteknix wrote:OK maybe slightly off topic, ish,

But without IR tracking, Is there any way at all to Free Look ? apart from when your not in a jet ?

would it be possible to implement it into the Game without the need for IR to make it fair to all gamers playing ?

i think it'd be great, you could be sat laid still and still look around - I think one of the biggest dissapointments with anything to do with battle field, is the Field of View - Close quarters firefights are not realistic in a sense as once they get to a certain point on the screen they vanish out of sight ... lol ......... makes it more guessing work, whereas with free look you'd be able to tell exactly where they are ....... near or far

At a guess? No I really don't think it would work in 1st person tbh, i'd say it will be for vehicles only, and hopefully mouselook should still function for those not using a head tracker.

Quick update: The current "BF2 TrackIR tech demo" that was created by a 3rd party does not work with BF2 1.41. NaturalPoint is hoping that this 3rd party will update it to work with BF2 1.41.

They are pretty sure that it will violate PunkBuster, tho perhaps an updated version that is 1.41 compatible will address that issue.

They expect / hope to see a 1.41 compatible version sometime in the next few weeks.

Implementing into a mod has been attempted and was problematic, so even if the tech demo stuff can be made workable and compatible with 1.41... there is still the PunkBuster issue and the actual implementation into PR... so er... I guess "hopeful but not optomistic" might be the best way of looking at it.

Is there any hope that it would work for infantry situtations or just vehicles?

Thanks for the update eggman. I guess it all depends on the nature of the PB violation, might be something like the old PB TS "screen overlay" problem from a few years ago. who knows, maybe some expertise could be called on from within evenbalance to help overcome the problem? Any dealings i've had with them through their support ticket system, they seem a fairly sound helpful bunch. Guess we'll just have to keep those fingers crossed & see what they come up with, to get it to work in conjunction with 1.41 & take it from there really

I imagine the implementation will cause a lot of headaches even if it works in BF2 and without punkbuster violations. One may need to rework a lot of the vehicle interiors to make the 6DOF work.

VipersGhost wrote:Is there any hope that it would work for infantry situtations or just vehicles?

Don't think it'd work with infantry since the bullets come from the center of the screen instead of the weapon model. Also the hands on the screen are cut from shoulders and would have to be remodeled to include upper torso

it only works in vehicles. sorta. with BF2 1.4. but not online because you get PB kicked. and apparently it's a large pita to implement.

but... we'll look into it.

'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']but... we'll look into it.

*cuddles*

JP*wasteland.soldier wrote:Haha. I'm glad this thread popped up. I've debated long and hard over whether or not to get TIR

Same here! If you get this working I'll be out buying one, just for those rare times I fly. That'd mean replacing my blown up Saitek X45 with an X52Pro.

Gadgets!

So.. ever any more word on this at all? no further developments to report i guess?

exchanged a couple emails, then it dies out .. they were waiting on an update to the BF2 Tech Demo put together by someone which didn't work with the 1.41 patch. Have sent another email to them.

no worries thanks for giving it a shot..