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Posted: 2008-04-30 15:39
by Zimmer
try to put the crosshair where you believe the enemy will go if he dosent go there well dont fire.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-06 22:15
by Delta_Zulu5995
Glek wrote:Hi guys,
I have some problems with Sniper rifles and I would appreciate if you can help me. :roll: So my problem is, that I can't hit my target with Sniper rifle. I have tried to shoot above them, or on their head, but the most of the time the bullet missed them. Due to this I always use marksman kit. The funny thing is that I can hit them with DMR, and if I miss, I can easily correct it with an other shoot. :roll: Do you have some advice for me, or I should simply forget Sniper rifles. :grin:
Aim for the centre of mass.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-07 15:35
by rough77
[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote: So in PR you will hit dead-on up until your zero point, then you will have to start aiming above to compensate.
sry, but my english sux a bit...
so you mean: enemy = lets say 200 m away.
crosshair: in the middle of his head *BLAMM* --> HIT
but i MISS (after lying still for lets say 2-3 seconds).

running towards my position --> zoom factor 1 --> BLAMM --> MISS

had to take him out with my pistol :mrgreen:

but: why do i miss? in BF2 i'm an excellent sniper, in PR... well: i guess i simply SUCK!

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-07 22:50
by Howitzer
dont shoot at moving targets at more then 100meters , except if he is walking towards you

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-19 21:30
by Jarhead[NL]
If you dont got patience..... dont even dare to request a sniper kit!
And you must also be very calm! Here is how I work as a sharpshooter:

Positioning:
First of all you look on the map and check the status of the game. Transport yourself (and spotter if you have) to a location you like.(Try to stop at a position where you can move in slowly and silence without any enemy in the area) Then slowly move yourself (and spotter) into the area by useing your binocs a lot! Take a quick stop sometimes and check your map and area for any movements by the enemy/allies. When you reach your position. Slowly crawl to the 'overview'.

Spotting
Together with your buddy you gonna search the area with your binocs and map for any hostile movements. Also listen very good at you enviroment, this can help you a lot of enemy positions. Always think at your objectives and not the kills! Try to spot enemy infantry, armor, rallypoints or bunkers/firebases. Kill: Officers, medics and kits with a huge possible threat to your friends along the battlefield. When you or your spotter has spotted a enemy, you gotta take a eye for 30 secs or something on him. And see what is his kit/task in the opposite team.

The 'Shot'
Once you know everything about the hostile infantry/team your gonna move your gun slowly on his torso while he is running, but a few inches before him offcourse I cant say how, you gotta feel/train it. If he is not running, you gonna aim slowly above his head and only shoot when YOU think it is the best chance to shoot! Again, you gotta feel this 'feeling'. Dont shoot when the spotter says: 'Fire!' or something. It is your gun and your task! This may sound a little stupid but I always 'squeze' the tricker when I shoot. And dont haste to shoot again quickly when you missed! Just let him go! Or you will reveal your location. Slowly crawl backwards and wait for 2 minutes or reposition.

I hope this can help you a bit. Sorry for the bad english.
Enjoy the skill of sharpshooting!

Sharpshooter Jarhead


"There is no hunting, like the hunting of man."

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-20 17:05
by Drav
dude, its a game you play with a mouse.....how do you 'squeeze' the trigger?

What you really mean is, dont be a spazz when you press the button and slide the mouse off sideways no?


Dammit ive started typing now. OK my top tips for sniper would be:

1) Dont stay in one spot.
If you kill someone, and you think they might have seen you, its time to move house. Ideally you will have some available transport to whisk you to a new location. Make friends with helo pilots if you dont like running.

2) Dont sit on top of hills if you want to stay hidden.
The first place everyone looks is the skyline. Now, the top of a hill is often a good place to be, people have to run up it to get to you, you get a good view, and backing off the top of a hill gets you away from danger very quickly. However, you might as well put up a flag saying 'over here!'. If you do have to be on top of a hill, at least look for a feature either on the hill, or behind you to break up your outline.

Just having some ground instead of sky behind you makes you MUCH harder to see, so a prime position if the terrain allows is just in front of the top of a hill. Obviously trying this on a smooth hill with no cover or dips will have you standing out like a spot on a supermodel, but if there are trees, rocks or a dip in the ground this method is great for good viewing whilst satying undetected.

3) Listen.
Turn your sound up. When in position, keep an ear out for footsteps and you should never get bounced. Having the sound up loud also makes you aware of how loud your rifle is, another reason to skedaddle after taking a shot.

4) Chill out.
Being a sniper is sometimes about sitting in a bush waiting for something to come along so you can tell someone more useful its there. Sometimes it will be worth shooting, some times not. Identify where you can be most effective, find a good spot to be and hang out. Patience is definitely a virtue with this class.

5) Adapt.
Everyone bangs on about how snipers have to s**t in a bag and spend all game lurking counting APCs and headshotting officers, but sometimes your are going to have to get dirty with the squaddies. Now obviously here listening for footsteps will get very confusing, and much of the open country stuff get thrown out the window.

The best advice I could give to snipers in the thick of things would be to remember that you are MUCH more important than everyone else, and like linebackers on an american football team, everyone else is only really there so you can lie down and take potshots from a healthy distance away. Although this is untrue, it will put you in the right frame of mind. If you are up level with the action, diving around and taking snapsots, you might just as well have an M16.

All the stuff about camoflage and concealment is equally useful in close combat, except you dont have the option of choosing a position at your leisure. Ideally you will be concealed, about 50-100m back from the squaddies running about up front, with a clear view of proceedings. This is a very powerful postion to support your boys from, with the only real danger being from a flank attack or another sniper. A spotter is pretty essential up close, as the chances of an enemy running into you by accident are much higher, especially in an urban situation. The spotter shouldnt really be paying attention to anything except keeping you and himself safe (in fact that is his main job always), so an ideal situation might be the sniper in a house, with the spotter covering the door. Both of you are as safe as can be, and the sniper can get on with it.



Finally, maybe most importantly of all...

Range is your friend. Its not running away, its relocating :)

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-20 17:23
by Cyrax-Sektor
Mescaldrav wrote:dude, its a game you play with a mouse.....how do you 'squeeze' the trigger?
As you would in real life, only apply it to your mouse. ;)

Slowly bring pressure from your finger onto the mouse button, so when you need to fire, you won't need to raise your finger and press down on it, just smoothly press down.

Sometimes, a keyboard key for firing is handy. I set it to my Windows key, and at times, it's easier than firing with the mouse for precision shots, as you may shift the mouse when pressing down and possibly miss.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-20 19:37
by Drav
Er, thats how all my shots go.....I press down on the mouse....


Next you'll be telling me you slowly exhale before the shot to lower your pulse and achieve total consistency in your body position.....

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-20 21:32
by Jarhead[NL]
Cyrax-Sektor wrote:As you would in real life, only apply it to your mouse. ;)

Slowly bring pressure from your finger onto the mouse button, so when you need to fire, you won't need to raise your finger and press down on it, just smoothly press down.

Sometimes, a keyboard key for firing is handy. I set it to my Windows key, and at times, it's easier than firing with the mouse for precision shots, as you may shift the mouse when pressing down and possibly miss.
I mean this yeah. Thanks for better explanation!

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-21 07:36
by Psyko
i dont know if this has been said but i believe its worth mentioning.

Some people have their geometry and anti-alaising low and off respectively. Its a video feature that blends the distant scenery. and smoothens out the landscape. To elaborate, if you are sniping on a jagged hillside overlooking south village on kashan for instance, the forground will appear to have you covered up pretty well, but way down on the ground the targets can see you perfectly, and in some extreme cases they can see you hovering off the ground.

Another one is the texture of objects. shadows disapear at long range and with the roundy green bushes on Quinling, they appear as an "X" shape that shoots out of the ground, revealing anyone whos sitting at the base of what they thought was very good cover. these bushes are in lots of map, but mainly quinling and fools road.

If you dont want people to emmediatly know your a sniper and try to hunt your kit, then switch to the pistol when running. its easier to shoot close up enemys (while having the strange effect of shooting around them even at point blank range) and your sniper rifle is always pretty obvious to anyone who enjoys looking for them.

(I appologise for my spelling mistakes im in a rush to get out the door)

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-05-21 09:56
by Drav
good tips dude....

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-06-03 13:08
by zangoo
rough77 wrote:sry, but my english sux a bit...
so you mean: enemy = lets say 200 m away.
crosshair: in the middle of his head *BLAMM* --> HIT
but i MISS (after lying still for lets say 2-3 seconds).

running towards my position --> zoom factor 1 --> BLAMM --> MISS

had to take him out with my pistol :mrgreen:

but: why do i miss? in BF2 i'm an excellent sniper, in PR... well: i guess i simply SUCK!




for the last time the guns are not zeroed, sniper bullets just fall alot slower then they should, you have to aim above the target, but the amount you need to aim above is depended on range, and those markings on the scope are pointless, if you use them to aim you will never hit anything. for 800m shots it is like 1cm for me on my 22in screen, not sure what the would be for other screens.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-07-30 22:53
by Glek
Hi, pls somebody show me a picture about how high I should aim above the enemy for 600 m with DMR. :confused:

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-08-03 01:32
by BlackwaterEddie
Might be useful for someone to go off and work out the ranges for the different rifles and report their findings here, noting which mil-dots give which ranges and any problems with the scopes or the rifles that people should know about.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-08-04 15:38
by Spaz
I don't agree with the spotter being a marksman or scoped rifleman. The spotter should be able to defend the team from enemys that got a bit to close. Me and bond have been doing some sniping the last weeks and we always use spec ops, ironsight rifleman or medic.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-08-04 23:43
by BlackwaterEddie
Your spotter should be there to engage close targets and to provide close security when moving from hide to hide, having a sniper and a marksman pairing up is just a waste of assets, the marksman isn't needed.

Spec ops or the iron sight rifleman kits are good for this.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-08-05 21:23
by OiSkout
Well since I'm startin this game up again, I think I'll do some updates with some ingame pictures and the sort.

Plus I have crappy graphics so you guys can see what you sometimes think is BS.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-08-08 20:38
by hiberNative
the sniper rifle's bullet drop puzzles me. i'd also love to have a picture chart of the bullet drop at the 2 different zoom levels.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-08-09 01:01
by KkarlArsch
hiberNative wrote:the sniper rifle's bullet drop puzzles me. i'd also love to have a picture chart of the bullet drop at the 2 different zoom levels.
The bullet starts dropping after 600m in flight.
There is no other bullet drop on either of the 2 zoom levels - it just flies straight ahead for 600m and then slightly drops.
Other than that, you need to keep completely still for ~ 2-3secs (dont even move the crosshairs) before you fire to achieve highest accuracy.

Re: Guide to Sniper

Posted: 2008-09-05 23:06
by HAVOC
now with the 0.8,

is pressing 3 any good

cause i hear the man breathing in and out

is it only an effect or should we press 3 a few times and then shoot???