[Request] Help PR making some icons (photoshop skills necessary)

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Post by dbzao »

I'm gonna use some icons from Max and some from Chuc.

But there's a problem with the icons from both of you guys. BF2 is a real pain with that. Your icons are showing up inverted, upside down.

I'm not really sure what is the correct way to export them to get it right, so I ask you guys to test a few different combinations and see what happens.

To test it, do the following:

0. Close PR.

1. Make a backup of your menu_client.zip in mods/pr/menu.

2. Create a folder somewhere (like your desktop) called "Kits" and inside that another folder called "Icons".

3. Save one of your custom icons with different export settings combinations (16-bit, 24-bit, 32-bit, compression, etc) and put it in that "Kits\Icons" folder you created.

4. Rename that icon to kit_Light_Assault (and the outline version) so you can see it in the spawn list.

5. Rename the file extension from .tga to .dds (important).

6. Open PR's menu_client.zip (make sure you backed it up) and go to "HUD\Texture\Ingame".

7. Add the "Kits" folder in there, so now you will have "HUD\Texture\Ingame\Kits\Icons\kit_Light_Assault.dds".

8. Start PR and test it out.


If you found the right combination, please post it here so we can get all icons in the correct format.

Thanks
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Post by Maxfragg »

well, first mine where 32bit kompressed, now they are 32bit unkompressed, how did you save them, chuc ?
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Post by Chuc »

Likewise, they're 32bit uncompressed, as per Photoshop CS' default Targa plugin. I'll still test them though
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Post by dbzao »

Ok, that's why both of your icons are upside down, they are exactly the same.

Maxfragg's first tentative with 32bit compressed was buggy.

Try the other bits and maybe compressed, but I think it will only work uncompressed.
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Post by Chuc »

Urgh I simply can't get a single test to work, I always end up with the game using the default vBF2 icons. However I've only tried with the 32bit and 24bit uncompressed, I'll try one more time compressed.


Edit: Nup, still no luck
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Post by =HR=Drayu »

Chuc wrote:Outlaw: Like.. Cactuar?

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Anyway, I did another marksman icon, to relate the kit to the sniper kit (which downplays the "sticking to the squad" aspect).

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Sicaro: I'd rather not change the AA and LAT icons, if you just look at the stabilisation fins there's the difference =P Also with the crewman icon, I think the devs are pretty set on it being a steering wheel

Zip file updated again
I really like that marksman kit over the rest.
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Post by dbzao »

Chuc wrote:Urgh I simply can't get a single test to work, I always end up with the game using the default vBF2 icons. However I've only tried with the 32bit and 24bit uncompressed, I'll try one more time compressed.

Edit: Nup, still no luck
Check the steps I posted. You probably didn't rename the tga files to dds.
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Post by Doc_Frank »

Chuc wrote:I simply can't make the armoured car work.. but I did come up with something pretty cool..

The funky crewman helmet, and the pilot's mask (makes him looks like a deceptacon)

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Post by Chuc »

This is correct right dbzao?

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Yet it still refuses to work..
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Post by dbzao »

Yea, looks correct, so I don't know...

Can you send me a few icons, each with different bits and compressions? I will try to test them out over here. Thanks.
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Post by GeZe »

From what I remember, it is upside down because it is not in the atlas.
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Post by Chuc »

Mmmn ok, here's the package, using my rifleman, specops and engineer icons as tests. All saved with 32, 24 and 16 bits both uncompressed and compressed.
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Post by Chuc »

Any progress with getting them to work?
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Post by dbzao »

Yeah I test them out, and it really looks it needs to be 32bit uncomp.

They still show up upside down, so I can only think it has to do with them not being in the atlas files. Doing the atlas is a bit complicated, so we will eventually do it with the new icons.

One thing you could try is to save the icons directly in DDS format. You will need the NVidia Photoshop DDS plug-ins.

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/phot ... ugins.html

I think they need to be dxt5 with no mipmaps. Can you get me a few of those so I can test? Thanks.
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Post by Chuc »

Got a problem, if I save using the DXT5_NM compression I end up with a 0kb file, probably corrupted. But if I use the normal DXT5 compression I have to change the size of the icon to 16x16.

Here's them, I saved them in two ways, one with a canvas resize (no alterations except for space), and a total resize that contains some antialiasing.
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Post by dbzao »

Thanks chuc, I will try them out.
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Yep, looks like it's working. But we will probably add it to the atlas too, and I don't know if it can be dds or not.

Anyways, for the sake of testing, let's use DDS for now, but keep the TGAs if we need them later.

The final list of icons to be used:

assault - max
at - default
engineer - default
civ - chuc (first one)
marksman - max
medic - default
officer - chuc (wealth - pointing down)
pilot - max
rifleman - default
riflemanaa - chuc
riflemanab - max
riflemanat - max
sniper - default
specops - default
support - default
crewman - chuc

Get the TGAs here:

http://gloryhoundz.com/prmm/users/dbzao ... ection.zip

Chuc, I need you to make the conversion from TGA to DDS for these, please. But before you do that, there are some adjustments needed:

1. Officer - it's too big. Needs 2 or 3 more pixels of margin. Check the default rifleman ones to get a good size.

2. Pilot - same thing with the left and right edge, but it will probably not look that good. Try and see how it goes, but another thing to update in it, is the no outline version top cross should be more visible.

3. AA - too big as well. Needs more margin.

4. Rifleman Ammo - the little ammo thing in the right is too small and too close to the edge. Specially the no outline version.

5. Light AT - maybe the no outline version could be a little bigger vertically. Increase the tube height in 1 pixel or something.


Chuch, if you can tweak all of these for me, export in TGA 32 uncomp and also in DDS, I would appreciate it.

Thanks for your help guys! :)
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Post by Chuc »

Sure thing. Do you want a canvas resize or a full resize to 16x16?
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Post by dbzao »

Do the canvas one. No anti aliasing, etc.
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Post by Chuc »

Done~

I'll be scaling down the unused ones within margin in case they'll ever be used. (or for personal use)
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