What I hate in PR 7.5

General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.
markonymous
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by markonymous »

Petey wrote:PR 7.5 ready for download in May 19, 2055
did u calculate it or just write something?
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GLQ
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by GLQ »

Deadfast wrote:Yes it is. It's called EULA.
You just can't 'borrow' files from one game and bump it to an other one. That would be illegal ;)
What ?!?

CS - is free mod, the people that made de_survivor, will be very happy to use they textures

IGI2 - is old game, Innerloop studio, I think, didn't ezist anymore, and they don't have any problems with PR (the problems are that, IGI2 textures are in .jpg)

RS:RS - who get money for this game now ?
Red Storm works on Ghost Recon, and doesn't have interest of PR

Well because EULA, I didn't tell about 2142 - that's unfair ..
..but where I live, in the Balkans, everything is "fair" ...
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Reddish Red
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Reddish Red »

GLQ wrote:What ?!?

CS - is free mod, the people that made de_survivor, will be very happy to use they textures

IGI2 - is old game, Innerloop studio, I think, didn't ezist anymore, and they don't have any problems with PR (the problems are that, IGI2 textures are in .jpg)

RS:RS - who get money for this game now ?
Red Storm works on Ghost Recon, and doesn't have interest of PR

Well because EULA, I didn't tell about 2142 - that's unfair ..
..but where I live, in the Balkans, everything is "fair" ...
Too Irresitable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY[/youtube]

Also: why would PR want CS textures when their inferior to BF2 textures?
Rico11b: Better than that just take the body out of the game all together, and we'll have floating heads in game.
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by ArmedDrunk&Angry »

LMAO
PR is a free mod and EULA applies to it so why wouldn't it apply to CS ?
Is CS a free mod BTW ?
Would textures from another mod on another engine even work in PR ?

I will admit that the suppression effect can be annnoying when you are getting it from your own weapon and you are not firing at a target 1m away but at an enemy 3+m away but as mentioned, it is WIP and vastly improves the feeling of needing to duck when people shoot at you.

But luckily we don't live in areas where the laws are considered optional and theft is common.
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My tears evaporate
Leaving only charcoal to defend.
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-=shootmeplz=-
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by -=shootmeplz=- »

A FREE mod or game means it is free of CHARGE to download and/or play it.
It doesn't mean you are FREE TO STEAL others people intellectual property.

And i think this whole thread is not worthy to be discussed any longer, imho.
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by GLQ »

First - yes textures can be converted in BF2 texture format
Next - in the case of de_survivor - that map is fan-made, and the artist behind the textures eill be pleaseant to use his "art", because is allreasy forbidden, and also his name will be in the credits, or better - do some work for PR

Like PODbot (bot for CS) - Count Floyd (the maker of this bot), stop to develop it, but fans wants to make evolution & also use it for Metamod (don't ask), and he accept that, and give the code to people that want modified it to better.
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

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Oooor the Dev's just make their own textures if they ever want to include a winter map...
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

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GLQ wrote:Next - in the case of de_survivor - that map is fan-made, and the artist behind the textures eill be pleaseant to use his "art", because is allreasy forbidden, and also his name will be in the credits, or better - do some work for PR
I dont understand what is allowed, what is forbidden?
GLQ wrote:Like PODbot (bot for CS) - Count Floyd (the maker of this bot), stop to develop it, but fans wants to make evolution & also use it for Metamod (don't ask), and he accept that, and give the code to people that want modified it to better.
Here we go: Someone GAVE permission to use his work. It's the opposite to TAKE others people work without asking.
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

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Well PR is not commercial, remember..

And I just want to say to dev's how to make winter map, because every way that become word fot that,
they say "yeah, yeah, it's not possible"
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by ironsneakers »

ArmedDrunk&Angry wrote:LMAO
PR is a free mod and EULA applies to it so why wouldn't it apply to CS ?
Is CS a free mod BTW ?
Would textures from another mod on another engine even work in PR ?

I will admit that the suppression effect can be annnoying when you are getting it from your own weapon and you are not firing at a target 1m away but at an enemy 3+m away but as mentioned, it is WIP and vastly improves the feeling of needing to duck when people shoot at you.

But luckily we don't live in areas where the laws are considered optional and theft is common.

How do you download this mod anyway? :confused: :39_poscom
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Waaah_Wah »

^^You mean PR??
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by -=shootmeplz=- »

GLQ wrote:Well PR is not commercial, remember..
GLQ, i'm loosing my patience, have you ever read a single reply on your posts?
It was said several times: IT DOES NOT MATTER IF ANY KIND OF SOFTWARE IS COMMERCIAL OR NOT, LEGAL RIGHTS DO APPLY.

And when it is so easy to make a winter map, stop teaching the devs about it and start mapping YOURSELF!
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by IAJTHOMAS »

GLQ wrote:Well PR is not commercial, remember..

And I just want to say to dev's how to make winter map, because every way that become word fot that,
they say "yeah, yeah, it's not possible"
Its not that its not possible, its just they don't have the time or the inclination to do one atm.

As for your IP law, just wrong...
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by [T]blackflybro88 »

HEYYYYY! All i got to say is Hate is a very strong word here you should put dislikes or things that need to be changed saying you hate it is like slaping the people who put there hard time into doing it to make you people happy. shame on you.
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Sabre_tooth_tigger »

Some laymans law even though its initially on a different subject, the links might be usefull. Taken from:
Using some copyrighted content in your videos


It's possible that you may be permitted to include small excerpts from copyrighted material in your video if what you intend to use is insubstantial or is incidentally included, or where the intended use you have for the copyrighted material falls within a exception or limitation to copyright under the law in your country.

We can't give you advice on either of these topics, and if you do plan to use even a small portion of copyright material in your video we'd strongly advise you to take legal advice first.

For information on US copyright law and fair use, check out the following materials.

* U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use
* Stanford Copyright & Fair Use - Fair Use
* http://www.copyrightwebsite.com/Info/Law/FairUse.aspx
* Chilling Effects Clearinghouse: Copyright and Fair Use

In European Union countries, the Commission website has some helpful information and links: Internal Market - Copyright and Neighbouring Rights - Index.

WIPO has a list of Intellectual Propety and Copyright Offices internationally, you can find the one applicable for your country here: Directory of Intellectual Property Offices

Please note, this material is provided for informational purposes only. It is not, nor is it intended to be, legal advice, or a substitute for legal advice.
GLQ
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by GLQ »

People !!!
This is a MOD !!!!!
I'm tellin' you how to make somrthing, that many fans want, you say "bla, bla, bl.."

This why the other part of the world thinks you for #!#!@%!@ (I point the amerikans)
PS - yes, I know about EULA and the copyrights
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Nick The Bubble
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Nick The Bubble »

.... the team switching. The first time it happened I was at the bottom of the list and I had just started, so fair enough. The second and third times, I was coming first in scores, was in a good squad, and was most of the way through a game. I cannot put into words how annoying it was. Surely it should chooses the person who joined the team latest to switch right?
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Waaah_Wah
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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Waaah_Wah »

GLQ wrote:People !!!
This is a MOD !!!!!
I'm tellin' you how to make somrthing, that many fans want, you say "bla, bla, bl.."

This why the other part of the world thinks you for #!#!@%!@ (I point the amerikans)
PS - yes, I know about EULA and the copyrights
And wer telling you that this is actually illegal...
Never argue with an idiot, he will just drag you down to his level and beat you by experience ;)

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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Napoleon_TR »

1-)Tree's (I cant see anything )
2-)Black Hawk's Color (Grey not good) Looks like #1 or Looks like #2

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Re: What I hate in PR 7.5

Post by Spec »

GLQ wrote:People !!!
This is a MOD !!!!!
I'm tellin' you how to make somrthing, that many fans want, you say "bla, bla, bl.."

This why the other part of the world thinks you for #!#!@%!@ (I point the amerikans)
PS - yes, I know about EULA and the copyrights
I'm not sure what this has to do with america, but illegal is illegal, and i dont think there are soooo many people that NEED snow maps. I can live without.

By the way, in the Singleplayer mod there is a map with snow skins included, so maybe the devs would already be able to put that in - or its bound to the map, which is more likely.
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