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Colt556 wrote:What happens if you're too fast to land, but too slow to wave off?

Waaah_Wah wrote:You hold shift and W and gain enough speed to lift up again? Its not rocket science.

If you cant land the aircraft, leave it to others. Thats not rocket science either.

Colt556 wrote: The AAV has a range of over a 1000 meters, I know that much is for sure. That means that jet has to get a 1000 meters in the air to escape it. That just aint gonna happen in the ammount of time it'd take that driver to get a lock and fire. So yeah, air assets really don't have anywhere to hide. Maybe from tanks and ground units, but not from AA.

Press X and hold it untill the lock is gone or untill you see the black screen. You are reducing your chance of getting shot down with every flare you drop.

Air assets do have places to hide, I guess. But you can't actually expect the pilot to stay 1500 meters in the air just because there's an AAV or something lurking around.

No... You expect him to fly and look after the AA like a moron

And that pilot can't exactly land because if he tries he's dead anyways.

Are you sure? Coz ive landed many times in PR.

He can't tell his team where the enemy is because if he knew, he'd kill it.

Exepc aircraft cant do **** without people on the ground in this game. How do you kill an AAV thats not marked with SOFLAM?

So he's essentially stuck, hoping for his team to save him. Now I'm all for teamwork, but there's teamwork, and then there's being an invalid. I shouldn't have to spend the entire round in the clouds because my team is unable to find and destroy an AAV.

Oh yes you should.

I should be able to do a nice, hard landing and hide in my base before that AAV can shoot me down.

WTF? You know, the maps in PR arent so small that you cant hide from AAV's when landing...

I mean really, what do you have against letting pilots do what real life pilots would do? You honestly think a real life pilot couldn't do an emergancy landing if need be? You honestly think a real life pilot would run off the end of the runway, or crash and explode into the ground from 20 meters up? Seriously man, air assets aren't so fragile in real life. And this mod is suppose to be realistic, so jets and heli's need to toughen up, and be able to crash land. Since sometimes crash landing is your only option.

Colt556 wrote:If you had read my earlier posts I wouldn't have to repeat myself. I know how to land just fine. I have absolutely no trouble with it. My trouble comes in when I don't have the luxury of doing a nice and proper landing, for whatever the reason.

Colt556 wrote:4: Why should I? Just because it's a team game doesn't mean you have to be useless without someone else. Every player should be able to perform basic tasks on their own, working together should simply enhance it and make it better.

Tirak wrote:Okay, go here: YouTube - Project Reality Flight Training
Skip ahead to the 4:20 mark and Rhino distinctivly says: "When your speed is pretty low you can also apply the brake with your Taxi Engine by pulling back on your stick, doing this however when your plane is going too fast will make it climb back into the air again, you need to be going slow enough for your plane to stick to the ground so this will be effective."

That is how you brake. You'll also notice in Rhino's video, he stops well short of the edge of the runway and does not land near the begining of the runway, there is pleanty of margin for error it would seem.

Waaah_Wah wrote:Bold.

EDIT: The runway isnt THAT short. And if your coming in waaaay too fast, you can always bail out to save the aircraft.

Colt556 wrote:Sigh. Ok lets go through this.

1: Flares don't allways help, and what happens if you run out of them?

If you run out of them its your own fault for not knowing how many you have left. When you run out of them, you dont fly low, you dont go after the enemy AAV's or jets. When you have very few flares left, you climb to 3-4000 meters and you stay there untill you have 30 fresh flares.

2: It's kind of rediculous to force the pilot to waste that jet for the entire round because he has no way of running from an AAV, and he nor his team can locate it. :/

Like i said, flare and fly straight up. It works in about 70-80% of the times i fly

3: Nice job taking it out of context. I'm not saying just landing would kill him, I'm saying landing with an AAV, or enemy fighter lurking around would be suicide. Since a nice slow-moving target going in a straight line would be TOO easy for anyone to shoot down.

Why the hell would you try to land when theres a fighter behind you?? Also, simply dont play on servers wich allow baserape and you wont have problems with AAVs lurking around your airfield. You could also just pop flares every 2 or so seconds when landing to avoid the lock.

4: Why should I? Just because it's a team game doesn't mean you have to be useless without someone else. Every player should be able to perform basic tasks on their own, working together should simply enhance it and make it better.

And you can perform basic tasks such as shooting down enemy jeps and chopters and strafing.

5: The maps are tiny when in a jet, and what happens if the AAV is near the airfield? Hidden behind a hill a thousand meters from the end of the runway? Your team wouldn't see him since people never go in those areas, but that AAV could shoot down any jet trying to take off or land.

Thats baserape.. But again, it can be avoided by popping flares so he wont get a lock on.

And in real life, if that pilots life was in danger, he'd risk a shitty landing to save his life. He wouldn't just, for example, fly around in circles until he was shot down because he didn't wanna risk doing a bad landing.

IRL an enemy AAV wouldnt be able to get that close to the airfield...

You keep making it sound like we're talking about a civilian airplane at a civilian airport. We're talking about war, and soldiers have to do risky things every day in order to survive. I'm pretty sure a pilot wouldn't hesitate for a second to do a horrible landing if the alternative was certain death.

ejecting would be far safer.

Colt556 wrote:I'm not saying that's unreasonable. I'm just saying I shouldn't HAVE to rely on my allies. I should be able to do it on my own, just that's it extremely hard, and that relying on allies gives me a huge bonus.

But you can do things on your own in jets in PR. You can land (But its extremely hard), you can bomb (But its extremely hard) andyou can strafe targets (But its extremely hard).

I hate having things limited, and in real life there's nothing forcing a pilot to rely on his allies to help him out.

Hahaha! This is brilliant.

He will because it's the smart thing to do, and it'll help save his life, but he doesn't have to. That's what I was saying.

Oh yes he does.

Colt556 wrote:We're getting off topic regardless. The jets should have brakes, it'd be a simple add and help out. It doesn't hurt gameplay in the least and allows for some wiggle-room when landing. Pure and simple.

Tirak wrote:Alright, you want on topic, PAY ATTENTION! The plane has brakes, any other sort of brake besides what has already been placed on the jet is impossible to do without bringing back reverse thrust, this thread has become nothing more than me posting the answer to your original post, you bitching, and Waah Wah egging you on. the heart of the matter is landing jets in your mind is too hard and you're too thick to ask for support if there is something that can make life dificult for you.

And Chanvlan, yes the Eurofighter is the easiest to land, but that map is the hardest to land on, additionaly, Rhino hit the middle of the runway and stopped three quarters of the way down, so if you land anywhere in the first quarter or third of the runway with just about any jet, you should be fine, and the J10 doesn't count as a counter example because the Devs have admited to screwing up on that one.

Colt556 wrote:I'm not saying that's unreasonable. I'm just saying I shouldn't HAVE to rely on my allies. I should be able to do it on my own, just that's it extremely hard, and that relying on allies gives me a huge bonus.

Tirak wrote:Wait a sec, why am I arguing with you, this thread is a resuggestion, I should be making a witty comment about you not using the search feature. There is a brake, now I've said all I'm going to say on the subject until a mod locks this for resuggestion.