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Can the chinook of CH64 or w/e be made to drop a vehicle out the back? like vBF2 supply crates have been made so they spawn out the back of choppers you could have one "rechargeable" vehicle to drop from the chinook

Would be brilliant to have vehicle drops braught back, though I'm smelling a lot of Deja vous in what I'm saying

Yes, an awful lot of them. Go back to your hole, Cain

'[R-MOD wrote:Masaq;742547']Being very quick isn't always sexy, Rhino... there are some things in life where coming second is a bonus and far sexier

(lol, forgive me!)

Sex joke?

Feuerwaffen wrote:I didn't say it wasn't fast I said it was fugly.

Ban.



How dare you.

E:masaq using grey text

Feuerwaffen wrote:

E:masaq using grey text

You're right... pink is better!

I believe the official moderator term is, uhh, offtopic?

I'm not sure I'm understanding what Rhino means by it won't fit, I'm looking at the stats right now and it's smaller than the Black Hawk. The Marines could use another helicopter to support the Huey, give it an FAV to drop or more supply crates, I think it's a great idea to add.

looking at the size of Muttrah V2 in the screens the CH46 could be usefull in that map

ReaperAce712 wrote:looking at the size of Muttrah V2 in the screens the CH46 could be usefull in that map

ye....

possible landing zones:

• in some areas of the docks, ontop of container piles and in wide roads
• on top of the multi story car park in city
• on some of the very wide roads, trying to doge the lamp posts
• in some of the car parks
• on some of the apartment building roofs

Where a littlebird or a huey could land in 20x more places and ye, generally more effective. The map is only 2km^2, which is yes very big for a city map, but this kind of chopper needs a 4km^2 map.

CH-46 Sea Knight
Crew: 4: 2 pilots, 1 crew chief, 1 aerial gunner/observer
Capacity: 25 troops
Length: 45 ft 8 in fuselage (13.92 m
Fuselage width: 7 ft 3 in (2.2 m))
Rotor diameter: 51 ft (16 m)
Height: 16 ft 8.5 in (5.1 m)
Disc area: 4,100 ft² (380 m²)
Empty weight: 15,537 lb (7,047 kg)
Loaded weight: 17,396 lb (7,891 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 24,300 lb (11,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2× General Electric T58-GE-16 turboshafts, 1,870 shp (1,400 kW) each

UH-1 Iriquois (Huey)
Crew: 1-4
Capacity: 3,880 lb including 14 troops, or 6 stretchers, or equivalent cargo
Length: 57 ft 1 in with rotors (17.4 m)
Fuselage width: 8 ft 7 in (2.6 m))
Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.6 m)
Height: 14 ft 5 in (4.4 m)
Empty weight: 5,215 lb (2,365 kg)
Loaded weight: 9,040 lb (4,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 9,500 lb (4,310 kg))
Powerplant: 1× Lycoming T53-L-11 turboshaft, 1,100 shp (820 kW)

Rhino, are you sure you're thinking of the Sea Knight and not the Chinook, because according to the stats I'm looking at, the only external dimensions that the Sea Knight is larger than the Huey is that it's rotars are three feet longer and it's two feet taller, how is it more restricted than a Huey in size?

Crew 3
Troop Seats 44
Litters (Stretchers) 24

Dimensions
Length With Rotors Turning 30.2m
Fuselage Length 15.6m
Fuselage Width 3.8m
Distance Between Rotor Sensors 11.9m
Height 5.8m
Internal Length 9.3m
Internal Width 2.3m
Internal Height 2m

Weights
Empty Weight 10,578kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight 22,680kg
Useful Load 13,916kg
Forward and Aft Cargo Hooks 9,072kg
Centre Cargo Hook 12,701kg

Engines
Model CH-47D – 2 x Honeywell T55-L-712 SSB
CH-47F – 2 x Honeywell 55GA714A
Maximum Shaft Horsepower:
CH-47D – 2,796kW
CH-47F – 3,529kW
Continuous Shaft Horse Power 2,237kW
Rotor System 2 hubs, 3 blades per hubs
Blades Fibreglass
Speed 225rpm
Diameter 18.29m
Disc Area 262.67m²
Blade Folding Manual

Performance
Sea Level Cruise Speed 265km/h
Speed at Maximum Continuous Power 269km/h (CH-47D), 287km/h (CH-47F)
Rate of Climb 464m/min
Service Ceiling 2,575m
Hover In Ground Effect 2,499m
Hover Out of Ground Effect 1,509m
Range 1,207km
Mission Radius 370.4km (200nm)
Armament * 2x M134 Miniguns and 1x M60 machine gun

Just out of my own interest, comparing the chinook as well. I thought the ch46 was a similar size but nope

Came across v-22 specs also, another dual rotor so posting it for comparison also




http://www.helicopterpage.com/html/tiltrotor.html

I think if the Brits got a Chinook on Sangin, I would forever love the DEVs.

Technical data for Kawasaki KV-107/IIA-2 [ch46]

Engine: 2 x General Electric CT58-140-1 turboshaft, rated at 1044kW, rotor diameter: 15.24m,

length with rotors turning: 25.4m

, height: 5.09m, take-off weight: 9707kg, max speed: 254km/h, cruising speed: 241km/h, service ceiling: 5180m, range with max fuel: 1097km

Technical data for Bell Model 205/UH-1H

Engine: 1 x Avco Lycoming T53-L-13 turboshaft, rated at 1044kW, main rotor diameter: 14.63m,

length with rotors turning: 17.62m

, take-off weight: 4309kg, empty weight: 2363kg, max speed: 204km/h, rate of climb: 9.15m/s, service ceiling: 3840m, range with max fuel: 510km

Boeing Vertol CH-47D Chinook
General
First Flight : 11 May 1979
Country of Origin : USA
Powerplant
Number Of Engines : Two
Powerplant type : Avco Lycoming T55-L-712 turboshafts
Max Power Rating : 3,356kW (4,500shp)
Dimensions

Length, Rotors Turning : 30.18m (99ft)


Height : 5.68m (18ft 7.8in)
Main Rotor Diameter : 18.29m (60ft)

[the effective length of a CH-47 (with blades turning) is approximately 100 feet from the most forward point of the forward rotor to the most rearward point on the aft rotor.]

V-22 OSPREY

Bell Boeing Specifications

Width (rotors turning: 83 feet 8 inches
Fuselage Length: 57 feet 4 inches

Bell Model 205 / UH-1 "Iroquois" helicopter - development history, photos, technical data

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;743556']ye....

possible landing zones:

• in some areas of the docks, ontop of container piles and in wide roads
• on top of the multi story car park in city
• on some of the very wide roads, trying to doge the lamp posts
• in some of the car parks
• on some of the apartment building roofs

Where a littlebird or a huey could land in 20x more places and ye, generally more effective. The map is only 2km^2, which is yes very big for a city map, but this kind of chopper needs a 4km^2 map.

*Yes i see your point rhino I have an idea though. Hold a map creating contest that would be fit for the Ch46 and a seperate map that would fit the Ch47 Chinook. Its all I can think of because I know that the V22 is just to big for any map in PR considering it is a VTOL and can change from vertical flight to rotary, Or you could hold a vote to use the CH46 or not to?

Tirak wrote:CH-46 Sea Knight
Crew: 4: 2 pilots, 1 crew chief, 1 aerial gunner/observer
Capacity: 25 troops
Length: 45 ft 8 in fuselage (13.92 m
Fuselage width: 7 ft 3 in (2.2 m))
Rotor diameter: 51 ft (16 m)
Height: 16 ft 8.5 in (5.1 m)
Disc area: 4,100 ft² (380 m²)
Empty weight: 15,537 lb (7,047 kg)
Loaded weight: 17,396 lb (7,891 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 24,300 lb (11,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2× General Electric T58-GE-16 turboshafts, 1,870 shp (1,400 kW) each

UH-1 Iriquois (Huey)
Crew: 1-4
Capacity: 3,880 lb including 14 troops, or 6 stretchers, or equivalent cargo
Length: 57 ft 1 in with rotors (17.4 m)
Fuselage width: 8 ft 7 in (2.6 m))
Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.6 m)
Height: 14 ft 5 in (4.4 m)
Empty weight: 5,215 lb (2,365 kg)
Loaded weight: 9,040 lb (4,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 9,500 lb (4,310 kg))
Powerplant: 1× Lycoming T53-L-11 turboshaft, 1,100 shp (820 kW)

Rhino, are you sure you're thinking of the Sea Knight and not the Chinook, because according to the stats I'm looking at, the only external dimensions that the Sea Knight is larger than the Huey is that it's rotars are three feet longer and it's two feet taller, how is it more restricted than a Huey in size?

Interesting, I thought it was much larger than that.

ReaperAce712 wrote:*Yes i see your point rhino I have an idea though. Hold a map creating contest that would be fit for the Ch46 and a seperate map that would fit the Ch47 Chinook. Its all I can think of because I know that the V22 is just to big for any map in PR considering it is a VTOL and can change from vertical flight to rotary, Or you could hold a vote to use the CH46 or not to?

The fact still remains that this chopper is going out of service very soon, to be replaced with the v22. We already have a v22 ingame, although low quility it would just require tweaking. Making a map for something that is not going to be around in a few years time, when PR is based and making the model from scratch is really not in PR's best intrastate...

The ch46 takes an extra 8m in length over the huey if the two rotors are included it looks like.

The chinook working length is 171% of the huey, the ch-46 144%. Littlebird 56%


They probably occupy a similar space when stowed




OH-6A Cayuse / AH-6J Little Bird - Military Aircraft

Rotors of a Chinook up close - YouTube - Chinook cutting the grass



Fuselage length only, they are all similar probably because only the Huey needs a separate tail rotor:

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:Interesting, I thought it was much larger than that.




The fact still remains that this chopper is going out of service very soon, to be replaced with the v22. We already have a v22 ingame, although low quility it would just require tweaking. Making a map for something that is not going to be around in a few years time, when PR is based and making the model from scratch is really not in PR's best intrastate...

Nope, it looks like the Sea Knight is sort of like a mini chinook, smaller than a lot of people belive, and the Sea Knight fleet won't be retired until 2014.

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;743556']ye....

possible landing zones:

• in some areas of the docks, ontop of container piles and in wide roads
• on top of the multi story car park in city
• on some of the very wide roads, trying to doge the lamp posts
• in some of the car parks
• on some of the apartment building roofs

.

lol

Tirak wrote:Nope, it looks like the Sea Knight is sort of like a mini chinook, smaller than a lot of people belive, and the Sea Knight fleet won't be retired until 2014.

In the figures you gave you mixed comparisons. You compared the length of the ch46 fuselage to the rotor sweep of the huey.