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Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:11
by Waaah_Wah
KayFour wrote:first i like to say that i've not actually fired the AK or the M16A2, but i've handled them both and been trained to pick them apart and together again... in my opinion the AK is to small to handle proporly, this also affects the LOS (line of sight) of the weapon, making it less accurate than most other carbines. the weapon is primarely made for CQB, used for engageing enemys in shorter distanses than the russian artillery can fire! it's very simple to handle and maintain in the field, this has made it a favorite of terrorist and guerilla warfare! the M16 is a more sofisticated weapon with better LOS and better iron sights witch makes it more accurate! but the drawback is that it has more and smaller parts, making it harder to maintain in the field and more likely to jam! if you compare these two with the G3 (this one i have fired), the G3 is extremly accurate with an even longer LOS, making it a far superior 'sniping-rifle' (actually used by the swedish army as a sniper-rifle till the end of the 80's), the recoil of the G3 is another deal (kicks like a mule compered to 5.56 carbines) making it very hard to fire in automatic mode! but on the precision side it's hard to beat (mounted in a test-rigg it will fire in the same hole over and over again!)
/kayfour
Did you just call AK47 a carbine??
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:13
by Waaah_Wah
IAJTHOMAS wrote:Slap yourself. Work started on it in 1944.
Yes. The weapon still werent prodused untill the war was over. Now im gonna have to slap you aswell
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:32
by Rudd
I'm pretty awful with the AK, thats why I go squad leader for the GP25 lulz
but really the rifle performs fine ingame vs other ironsights
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:47
by Fluffywuffy
@WAh: Ak has a very small barrel and a shoots a small round with barely enough powder behind it.
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:54
by IAJTHOMAS
Feuerwaffen wrote:@WAh: Ak has a very small barrel and a shoots a small round with barely enough powder behind it.
7.62=small?
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:58
by Waaah_Wah
Feuerwaffen wrote:@WAh: Ak has a very small barrel and a shoots a small round with barely enough powder behind it.
Err.. But it can still penetrate a brick or a thick log with no problem? Sure, 7.62 is small, when compared to APC rounds...
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 15:59
by Fluffywuffy
So can an m4?
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:02
by IAJTHOMAS
DavidP wrote:Wrong. 45. He encountered it the STG-43 in 44.
3 sources I have read say design work started in 1944, when the first protosype was produced. (Bolotin, D.N, "Soviet Small-Arms and Ammunition", pp 68.)
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:06
by Waaah_Wah
Feuerwaffen wrote:
So can an m4?
Not according to this video:
YouTube - AK 47 vs M16
Watch at 3:10
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:09
by Scorch
Conman51=US= wrote:actually i think your thinking about the ak74..its teh 5.56 version...but i think the original ak47 has stayed the same as WW2
im afraid you're mistaken.
wikipedia wrote:AK-74 Cartridge 5.45x39mm
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire 650 rounds/min (AK-74, AKS-74, AK-74M)
650-735 rounds/min (AKS-74U)
Muzzle velocity 900 m/s (2,953 ft/s) (AK-74, AKS-74, AK-74M)
735 m/s (2,411.4 ft/s) (AKS-74U)
Effective range 100 to 1,000 m sight adjustments
350 to 500 m sight adjustments (AKS-74U)
Feed system 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights Adjustable iron sights, front post and rear notch on a scaled tangent
Flip-up sight and front cylindrical post (AKS-74U)
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:09
by Fluffywuffy
OOO you!
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:31
by SiN|ScarFace
Seriously, do we need to beat this horse again?
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:34
by Fluffywuffy
Yeh Ak-47 has its advantages as do other rifles.
/lock plz
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:40
by IAJTHOMAS
Scorch wrote:im afraid you're mistaken.
I think you've typed in 74, not 47, as he said:
Cartridge 5.45x39mm
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire 650 rounds/min (AK-74, AKS-74, AK-74M)
650-735 rounds/min (AKS-74U)
Muzzle velocity 900 m/s (2,953 ft/s) (AK-74, AKS-74, AK-74M)
735 m/s (2,411.4 ft/s) (AKS-74U)
Effective range 100 to 1,000 m sight adjustments
350 to 500 m sight adjustments (AKS-74U)
Thats what i get in that box for ak 47.
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 16:55
by Lieutenant-FPS-Bob
----------Not pointed towards anyone inparticular-------------
Don't post if you don't know much about guns, don't just type what you think, a lot of us here actually know a lot about these firearms and all the small details.
Anyway, as for the AK, you need to use it carefully, only full auto at point blank, let the sights settle at range and use semi. I'm not to shabby with it myself, since I play to it's strenghts instead of trying to use it like a 5.56mm rifle.
Now we are curb-stomping a dead horse, give it the axe.
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 17:09
by Outlawz7
1. Need Bob.Marley to own everyone with his fire arm knowledge
2. Thread lock.
3. OP should be watched as he posted tons of stupid threads before.
Re: does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?
Posted: 2008-07-25 17:29
by Mongolian_dude
Seriously, im on the verge of calling the RSPCA, this horse has been beaten so bad.
As we can see, it is slowly but surely becoming a thread headed for none other than personal attacks and an E-penis contest over who has the greatest knowledge of weapons (Gee, arn't you cool).
Thread locked for unfruitful topic and a pre-empt on crude behaviour.
...mongol...