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Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:20
by youm0nt
'[T wrote:blackflybro88;753278']theres a new one for the medic bag but i cant read it can any one else, watch it when pulls out the bag ??????
It says, "good to go".

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:21
by [uBp]Irish
that just made my day.

I usually play Medic exculsively if i'm not in armor. This will be amazing.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:21
by [T]blackflybro88
thats good to know

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:22
by ReadMenace
Heh, epinephrine to counteract the lead induced anaphylaxis.

Looks awesome!

-REad

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:24
by Slavak
808-SLUGGO wrote:im pretty sure its morphine...
Actually its epinephrine (adrenaline) morphine is a pain revealing opioid and would do absolutely nothing to revive someone.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:25
by kevlarorc
what? no mouth to mouth? im disappointed ...
:mrgreen:

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:28
by [T]blackflybro88
kevlarorc wrote:what? no mouth to mouth? im disappointed ...
:mrgreen:
you can hear him doing it just cant see it lol

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:38
by gumball
'[T wrote:blackflybro88;753292']you can hear him doing it just cant see it lol
I don't think that's a breath to the soldier on the ground. i think that breath is for when he is doing compressions except the compressions are a bit too fast and don't match with the sound. Also in CPR, you are supposed to give 2 breaths, not 3.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:40
by [T]blackflybro88
gumball wrote:I don't think that's a breath to the soldier on the ground. i think that breath is for when he is doing compressions except the compressions are a bit too fast and don't match with the sound. Also in CPR, you are supposed to give 2 breaths, not 3.
then medics are really out of shape if there breathing hard AFTER they do it????

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:43
by jack2665
vrey nice

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:07
by azn_chopsticks_boi
Not a scope, M68 :) read the American Army updates for more info.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:11
by Slavak
Compressions should be slower (yes chuc, I know you can't be bothered), and the clear isn't necessary without the defibs.

Not sure how he stabs the epipen through the armor ether.

But very, very cool none the less.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:19
by Oklahoman
Are you serious?? I am new to this game, and these new additions might be blowing my mind more than the vets out there. have updates always been this incredible?

fantastic work.....

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:26
by TonkaTruck
I love the fact that you added chest compressions to the CPR process for the medic. However, we must address something right now.

An EpiPen Auto-Injector is NOT used in the CPR process. Epinephrine is administered through an IV line.

The auto-injector is only used for severe allergic reactions. It also doesn't revive the patient at all in the CPR process if it's being administered in the first place. The AED defib shock is the thing that actually does that.

This needs to be changed ASAP. The Defib paddles need to be included, not an EpiPen for the sake of realism.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:28
by maverick551
Just another amazing addition to an already amazing mod.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:38
by TonkaTruck
Also. I'd like to explain a little bit about the Epinephrine. It's adrenaline pretty much. However, when it's used in the form of an auto-injector, it's given as a prescription to people with severe allergic reactions to certain items. It helps relax smooth muscles such as your airway and restricts blood cells. In short, you breath easier and your blood pressure goes up. The user removes the cap off the end of the injector and stabs it into the fatty part of the thigh and holds for 15 seconds.

However, it's not used at all for CPR. It's an ALS procedure and is given through an established IV line.

I do like the CPR. For those who also don't know how CPR is done I can explain.

1st step. Call 911 if you know exactly how long the person has been down. (This doesn't apply to the military though.
2nd Step. Tilt the persons forehead back and lift their chin. This takes the tounge off the throat and opens the airway.
3rd. Pinch the persons nose and give two breaths that each last one second long. Watch for chest rise and fall.
4th. Perform 30 chest compressions that are inch and a half to two inches deep. Don't go too fast as you're manually operating the heart by compressing it and you need to give it some time to de-compress. ( One and Two and Three and Four..Ect ect )
5th. Perform 2 more breaths and resume the compressions at a 30 compressions to 2 breaths ratio.
6. The AED needs to be used early. It shocks the heart and tries to return the hearts electrical system to normal. It reads the hearts electrical stuff and bases it's "Shock or Not" decision off what it reads.

=| Again, Defib paddles need to be returned.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:54
by SGT.JOKER
:15_cheers
That IS The Shit!!!!!

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 06:11
by gclark03
TonkaTruck wrote:Also. I'd like to explain a little bit about the Epinephrine. It's adrenaline pretty much. However, when it's used in the form of an auto-injector, it's given as a prescription to people with severe allergic reactions to certain items. It helps relax smooth muscles such as your airway and restricts blood cells. In short, you breath easier and your blood pressure goes up. The user removes the cap off the end of the injector and stabs it into the fatty part of the thigh and holds for 15 seconds.

However, it's not used at all for CPR. It's an ALS procedure and is given through an established IV line.

I do like the CPR. For those who also don't know how CPR is done I can explain.

1st step. Call 911 if you know exactly how long the person has been down. (This doesn't apply to the military though.
2nd Step. Tilt the persons forehead back and lift their chin. This takes the tounge off the throat and opens the airway.
3rd. Pinch the persons nose and give two breaths that each last one second long. Watch for chest rise and fall.
4th. Perform 30 chest compressions that are inch and a half to two inches deep. Don't go too fast as you're manually operating the heart by compressing it and you need to give it some time to de-compress. ( One and Two and Three and Four..Ect ect )
5th. Perform 2 more breaths and resume the compressions at a 30 compressions to 2 breaths ratio.
6. The AED needs to be used early. It shocks the heart and tries to return the hearts electrical system to normal. It reads the hearts electrical stuff and bases it's "Shock or Not" decision off what it reads.

=| Again, Defib paddles need to be returned.
Agreed. The way it looks, and with a few ideas of my own, the Medic routine should end up like this:

1) The medic performs compressions (the resuscitate 'weapon') to unstick the patient, then uses the defibrillator.

2) The medic then applies the EpiPen, which automatically puts the patient's health just to the point where he can see, but where he is still bleeding and requires healing to continue fighting. Without the EpiPen, the patient will bleed to death within 20 seconds. (Just trying to justify the use of epinephrine in combat CPR...)

3) The medic heals the patient using the medic bag, and the patient returns to the battle.

Re: [CLASS] Medic!

Posted: 2008-08-03 06:14
by gclark03
(Sorry for double post, but I can't edit)

I know that the BF2 engine doesn't deal well with probabilities, but can you give medics without defibs (Militia medic, Insurgent Civilian) a % chance to revive teammates using Resuscitate? On the same topic, what about applying a chance for the AED to revive a fallen soldier, so that the AED is not the 'magic zapper' it has always been?