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Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 15:45
by Hauler
[R-DEV]OkitaMakoto wrote:From my basic understanding theres a slight change in accuracy/deviation. Not sure about deviation, but yeah, just a tad less accurate than the m16 due to being the carbine. Couldnt tell you much more though as I dont know... Nedlands will probably be around shortly to post the ingame specs though
And no to the GL thats just a bad idea. And like one of your pics had a GL on it... the rest had flashlights and stuff...
And I dont see why everyone complains about the PR US Army using the m4 while the PR Marines use the M16, come on people... its not a big deal, they look damn near the same anyway... its not like an AK and an M16... Its nice to have one "gun" for each force. otherwise they'd be one more step towards being too similar.
Well it may be nice to have one gun for each force but this is PR and that means if it is in Reality make it so. Don't do it cause it would be nice though.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 15:48
by NYgurkha
hehe, its funny how the Brits say torches and Americans say flashlight!!! talk American dammit.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 15:48
by Hauler
'ValerioZ.[ITA wrote:;778526']There are two versions of the M203...
Ya those weren't GL's. Those were flashlights. What the heck are you talking about.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 15:52
by ERASERLASER
m203? their flashlights buddy, the late arrival of .8 is obviously driving this poor man insane, quick get him a doctor!
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 15:54
by Scot
Speak American?? Why not speak the language us Brits INVENTED properly

jokes
but on topic, can we have a Marine response??
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 15:58
by winters101
THIS IS NOT A FILM, this is a project of reality on a game.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 16:36
by Spec
TheScot666 wrote:Speak American?? Why not speak the language us Brits INVENTED properly
Why dont we go back to latin anyway?

Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 16:56
by Sadist_Cain
EGO pro unus would reputo is would exsisto pulchellus badass redeo ut latin , Sententia aegre dignitas nixus ut vos reputo super is. Tametsi nos operor have online reddo facio officium facillimus

Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 17:16
by Spec
LMFAO @Cain! Now if my latin wouldnt suck i'd think of something like that too to answer, but i'm afraid I should have learned more for school >.> (And especially a big LMAO on the capital EGO, the english language just rules ^^)
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 17:36
by Scot
I did latin... now I dont.... latin sucks...
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 17:54
by Anderson29
well im no marine but i did spend 6 month in and around anbar provence and worked with marine recon (not force) and regular marine grunts during 06 and 07. every recon marine had m4 as everyone has already figured out. and almost all the regular marines had m16...unless they were an officer or high ranking nco's im assuming squad leaders and above.
project reality portrays the mounted marines so the m16 fits and if they made the officer kit an m4 then i would say its pretty damn accurate to whats in theater.
<--u can see in that pic kinda...that im wearing my marine flight suit. they tipicly wear that during winter months and sometimes when conducting mounted operations...and its very comfortable.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 19:33
by EOD_Security-2252
Colonelcool125 wrote:Your second pic is a vehicle-born infantryman, not your standard grunt , FYI.
I said that if you bothered to read.
Also, I just want to make sure you guys know I'm
not for the M203 for SL, and I know what an MEU is (but thanks anyway).
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 21:12
by SGT.JOKER
tbh Id prefer to keep my M16 for the USMC SL
but a GL is always a welcome

Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-27 23:55
by Scot
I don't mind M4, but M203 is a huge no.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-28 09:52
by Tannhauser
I'm against the M4 but all for the M203. Fireteam leaders usualy have M203's to set smokes or explosive support for their fireteam in certain cases. However, seeing how it would take two slots from the already full kit, I think it's best to keep Grenadier and Officer as different kits.

Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-28 10:06
by JohnnyRaygun
Hmm it didn't post my first post...so...Ill make a short one.
Was an 0311 from '02-'06
Squad leader had an m4 w/ACOG
Team leaders had m16a4 w/ACOG and m203
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-28 12:55
by Spec
Does the kit have enough slots for an 203? Pistol would have to be removed.
Personaly, i'd say: Give GL but only with smokes. Could be useful, but not overpowered. But, better yet, leave the pistol where it is

Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-28 13:20
by Hotrod525
'ValerioZ.[ITA wrote:;777714']I have many photos where the body of marines uses the m4.
And it's not force recon.
How can you explain?
The photos posted by me, not the force recon.
Its pretty simple. US Marines mainly use the M16A4, US ARMY mainly use the M4, but you can see USMar whit M4 and you can see USAr soldier whit M16A4.
But In REAL LIFE, the General whos command Marines Corps choose to keep M16 and not switch on M4 like the Army, so Project Reality reflect that. is that simple enought for you ?
But a the second you talk about "Special Operation Capable" unit, the rules dont longuer apply to them.
Like this one using a modified M14...
Or this one in Irak during 2003 assault :

EOTech is not standart issue, barrel is not standart, suppressor is not standart, handguard is not standart, stuck is not standart, double clip (wraped together) is not standart...
In fact, special forces are spoiled babies of the army...
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-28 13:29
by LineHog
Maybe they use the M4 for CQB. Found a list of the weapons the USMC uses:
List of weapons of the U.S. Marine Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But then again, Wiki has been wrong.
Re: Us Marine Squad Leader whit M4 Carabine + G.Launcher
Posted: 2008-08-28 16:57
by Clypp
ValerioZ does bring up a good point in this topic. None of the guns in PR have flashlights attached.
Unfortunately BF2 does not support the kind of dynamic lighting that would make flashlights possible.