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They're both unfriendly...and I'm still the winner....nice to see you reading posts again Okita

random pants wrote:Steep learning curve = noob unfriendly.

To you it may seem so, to me it doesn't at all. So therefor, I disagree.

random pants wrote:Just because there's a manual and some people help, doesn't mean that it's still not complicated as hell

Sigh. Of course it's complicated and difficult, but to me, that does NOT make it unfriendly. I find it challenging and exciting, I certainly wouldn't call it unfriendly. However, if you think the game is like, let's say.. Unreal 2004, perhaps then you find it noob unfriendly. But who's to blame, the game or you?

random pants wrote:until then....I am the winner of this thread.

There's no such thing as "winner of this thread". Man that's childish.

random pants wrote:They're both unfriendly...and I'm still the winner....nice to see you reading posts again Okita

Ok, hold on:

1. The mod's name implies that is isn't some rocket jump no need to prepare ego-shooter, hence your UT2k4 comparison doesn't really work
2. Most people who play it have played BF2 before, hence they know basic stuff that is still to some extent in the mod.
3. It's clearly stated that everyone should read the manual before starting to play .8
4. Unless you ***** like crazy on a server just cause you're not used to the gameplay and behave reasonable instead, you'll always find vets who are willing to spend some rounds to get you going




Edit: Any new guy who likes to play on euro servers and would like some help to get started, add me on xfire (account: phoenix762mm)

to the new guys (and everyone else) if I am honest I don't read the manual -holds hands up- If something is really confusing me then I will.
It is easy enough to jump in a squad and do as you're told, don't try and be SL or Commander from the off (for commander you probably SHOULD read the manual but the SL stuff you can pick up from your Squad Leaders just by being in their squad and listening to them)

I'm not fussed about being a commander or SL just yet, or taking off in the toys, for now I am just happy being a grunt and picking it up as I go along
Don't be put off by a manual or people saying "RTFM!" (if you are on a server with people saying that when you ask them something then you are on the wrong server matey.

Well, if you wanna practice: datorbutiken.com #7 TRANIEE

I'll do!

[R-DEV]AfterDune wrote:There's no such thing as "winner of this thread". Man that's childish.

His amazing powers of Troll here and elsewhere on the forums have "won" him the prize of a fortnight's temp ban.

random pants wrote: Just because there's a manual and some people help, doesn't mean that it's still not complicated as hell

If you've played BF2 and read the PR manual, the only complications come through tactics & gameplay.

I'm glad PR isn't 'Noob friendly', we don't want them bunny hopping around, stealing enemy vehicles & soloing helos to bail out over an enemy base. PR has done its best to curb noobs.

PR is however very Newb friendly. I've not come across a guide & manual as helpful with any other game. There's now a built in training mode & most of the community is very helpfull.

random pants wrote: The shear fact that we have to learn and experience so much just to be decent is everything that "noob-unfriendly" is.

Noob = Smacktard of sorts
Newb = New player

Exactly, that's a good way to keep noobs to a minimum, make the game involve using your brain!

Oh, yeah, this mod is called Project Reality.

random pants wrote:It's really quite a simple equation.... Just think about it...."

random pants wrote:Let's try to set a control for this hypothetical...

...blah blah...

I really would like to see a counter-argument that proves me wrong...until then....I am the winner of this thread.

No sir, you fail.

We've all been newbs as many have pointed out. I for one had help and was made very welcome in PR.

To answer the OP's question again, yes. New players are welcome, Noobs are not.

Like I say to anyone just starting the game.

Load the game, join a squad stick to the basics kits till you learn the lingo and pace of the game. Let your squad leader know you are new, be quiet and follow orders. stick with your squad leader as much as possible. After you read the manual and play a few rounds you can graduate onto the more advanced kits.

Down the road you can learn vehicles and aircraft etc.

Thanks All for the warm reception I am afraid I don't do well on Euro servers due to high ping are there some US servers?

I am seriously thinking of bringing my clan over to PR but I am afraid that will won't like the mod as it has the steep learning curve and they are still new to vBF2 they only been playing a couple of months. but On the other hand I think it would be better for them as We are mostly older players 25+ and we strive for tactical play. hence the name of clan Tactical Minded Gamers ( not affiliated with Tactical Gamers )

lots of US servers:

Servers playing BattleField 2 | Server / Player Search | Game - Monitor . COM

Did the convo shift or something? Anyway to answer op's question usually i don't welcome them because they refuse to read the manual so I refuse to help them.

Only obnoxious people get slapped on the servers, at least its what I have seen.

IT's a bit too general, all (new&old) players are different.
Being new is not a problem,being new and ignorant is
If you want to see PR at it's best join the PRT, best thing I've done
since starting to play (PR).
Project Reality Tournament

another question is how pr friendly are the new guys. just had a guy on a muttrah round which started with 3 guys. the 2 us guys entered an lav and went staight to mec base where they destroyed the empty btr90 and all other vehicles right as a 2nd mec guy connected. none of them understood why its no fun to play like that...

From your friendly 'noob' 'newb' 'idiot' 'psycho' 'moron' Cheeso.

The community itself has always been less then ideal when it comes to welcoming new players. Anyone that has been in a squad with me will attest to this fact about myself.

A: I don't take PR seriously. If your in a squad with me the conversation over VOIP will often shift between how funny it is to shake someone's hand when you first meet them then blurt out 'I'm a chronic masterbater!' to 'What is your favorite color'.

B: We still manage to be somewhat effective. Regardless of the level of dicking around we do our squad is usually formed up, moving toward an objective, Covering each other's asses and taking it to the enemy.

I've read all the manuals for PR; Well at least the important ones I don't touch armor or planes thus screw that. And yet about every other time I get on, I get in a squad where some 'newb' is getting bashed for asking something like 'How do the sights work on the grenade launcher'. Coming from a different community thats always been a major problem with your mod, the elitest feel of the playerbase. Don't get me wrong its gotten much better since then but it doesn't change that its happening.

I hate to point out people but these "PATA" or "PETA" or "Petal power" I don't know some kind of tag. Its yet to fail that everytime I play with more then three of them the chat log is filled with complaints. "Why did you kick him. Admin, Admin, Admin, Admin..." When they get an answer "He had 3 TKs" they ignored it after begging for an answer for 5 minutes I had to point it out to them. To which they replied "Thats stupid. This server shouldn't be run like this." Excuse me but I believe servers are paid for by the providers. You don't have a 'right' to play on them its a privilege. The amount of bitching rivaled some bad rounds of Infantry Only Karkand. When I later heard they were some tournament team? PR dropped 3-4 pegs in my book. There immaturity was unwarranted and completely un-necessary.

I would like to state however that this is something the developers of this mod can not fix. This is mostly a player issue.

as pretty much every one has said, read manual, tell ur squad ur a new, and ask questions don't just sit on it!

Well i'm new, played on my first server today and just followed my squad leader orders. I completely agree with all who say read the manual because if I hadn't before playing I probably would have performed poorly and annoyed many. It doesnt take long to read the manual, and it's not hard to follow orders or speak up and ask something. I guess though for the pure fact that we are human and have differences and all that **** that some people just can't function as well with new or old players as others. I personally think these people should be lined up and shot because it's not hard to get on with and play with someone else well. Anyway I really enjoyed my time spent playing this game so far and will most definutly play again, probably within the next few hours And as for this whole situation: noobs learn how to read and follow orders. Oldies/vets stop being such grumpy old gits and shouting at noobs, it certainly doesn't help, give them some helpful guidance if anything rather than shouting at them ^.^ Oh and don't forget, you were a noob once just like me!

I am sorry for flud, but than read anymore, than I see anymore, the I want anymore, I now in the world want nothing as soon as this the fashions, and idea about that I the administrator of server simply compels me to tingle with adrenalin, really it that I searched, it is simple fantasy, if it all because it is described about it fashions that it is simple not really, such game, COMMAND game of zdelat', I in shock. words are not present to describe that I feel, if vsetaki soizvolyat who decides those be or not to be at to the kogoto server it will be allowed me to heave up him in my town that the Altaian edge Biisk it will be you strongly thank, the outage of BF 2 already across a throat stands, a lot of shortages on tactic and armament and if this the fashions allows to work out these problems that only he, and nothing anymore, I will attach all of forces that the server of Lineage 2 died for us and all came on my, ( as they bothered these patients of L2) if to militate that only here, and only so.

P.S. I from Russia and on angliyski understand little that, wrote from a pomosh'yu translator electronic, so that will excuse if that incomprehensible wrote.

North the Western Siberian corps (in the stage of forming) if there will be a server for us you know what are afraid Siberia

Im fine with new players, providing they dont over react and say "can I get the sniper kit sir?" over voip, I'm just your SL for the round not your boss

I have only noticed one instance in which the fact there were new players around was a bother to another person. That was the first night I ever played, and I don't think it was directed at me so much as the fact there were alot of new names around the person hadn't seen.

But other than that, I have seen the community to be somewhat indifferent to new players. Not overly critical (Unless warranted IE new player taking and crashing things repeatedly) In fact, on just my personal experience I've been more than welcomed by veteran players when I let them know I had just started and was still learning the ways of things. I wish I could remember his name, but I was in a server a few weeks ago, and was told to take over the turret in the tank we had. I let the person know I'd never done that before, and he took the time before we moved out to familiarize me with how the turret worked, and even during our engagements he would tell me what worked best and how to best employ them.

And now with the squad I'm in, I'm not so much a new guy anymore, but they still help me out if I have the occasional question (Or in last night's case, couldn't figure out how to work the ironsights on the HMMWV turret lol) and it's really helped me alot to improve my gameplay.