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Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 15:18
by Army Musician
Plus it is more realistic, having every player controlled, providing we have a good commander, it would be really fun. In the british army, when we radio a contact report, we request assistance, Arty, Air, etc...
So in PR we radio a contact report, and a request for arty. Section Commander (Squad Leader) or whoever has the GLMT 'lases' the target area. The commander then sends that to the Royal Artillery Squad then they pound the area.
Just like in real life. You send it up through the chain of command, it usually works.

Ideally for maps like Kashan. (for the British) Squads for me would be

Royal Artillery,
Royal Logistics (Transport and Supply)
Royal Air Force/Army Air Corps/Fleet Air Arm
Royal Dragoon Guards
Infantry

And everything would go through the commander.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 15:59
by STORM-Mama
Army Musician wrote:Plus it is more realistic, having every player controlled
You sure? Is artillery located so close to the front as it would be on a map like Kashan IRL?

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 16:10
by Army Musician
I am not in the Royal Artillery but what I do know and that is the R.A. is deployed as close as needs be. But don't forget this is still a game, and there does have to be some give. Kashan maybe 4km2 and Yes the L118 light gun has a range of 17.2km. But if you are talking in the grand scheme of things, Artillery may be very close to the frontline depending on the current status of operations.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 16:49
by Tirak
STORM-Mama wrote:You sure? Is artillery located so close to the front as it would be on a map like Kashan IRL?
A Map like Kashan could support Mobile Artillery Vehicles and Artillery Emplacements, the real big guns for a real big map. A Map like Korengal or Assault on Mestia would support Mortars and small artillery. Fit the asset to the map and all that.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 17:03
by Technoelite
i gonna be a kill joy you know how many times this has been disscused over the years lol

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 17:16
by G.Drew
Technoelite wrote:i gonna be a kill joy you know how many times this has been disscused over the years lol
Indeed

I like the idea of just leaving it alone.

I works fine, it doesnt annoy anyone, its timed well (ok mybe the time could be decreased slightly) but in all it works pefectly fine (apart from when a JDAM hits a tree/wall/roof/stone and detonates but does minimal damage to the surrounding area :razz :)

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 18:47
by Tirak
The mods have left the thread open for some reason or another, so I believe the debate is sanctioned. It may have been discussed, but not doing anything does nothing for the issue. Artillery is a real life asset called upon in many situations we face in PR, yet the only option we have is on some maps we get either a light mortar barrage, an artillery barrage or a JDAM which can land on top of you and as long as you're in a non destructible asset you're fine, and the times for these extremely underpowered "Area Attacks" is ridiculous. Give it to the players, let them work with it.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 21:18
by jbgeezer
Maybe I should have written: Current artillery support is too rare, make them more common!
Hey artillery IRL is frequently used, im not talkin about the really big guns, but mortars and light artillery.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 21:44
by PlaynCool
Well in vanilla the artilery is more used, and you know what it is, so i think its fine the way it is.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 21:48
by Waaah_Wah
PlaynCool wrote:Well in vanilla the artilery is more used, and you know what it is, so i think its fine the way it is.
There is a neutral ground between once every 2 minutes and once every hour.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-17 21:54
by jbgeezer
Right Waaah wahh, absolutely! And I am not thinkin about vanilla im thinking about real life.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-18 13:04
by Viper.Sw
I don't think Artillery should be a very big part in PR!

Seriously it is a game of 64 players on one map at the most, most of them being within one squarekilometer. Real artillery eg. some MRLS can cover that area in one strike... Most artillery can wipe out the maps in minutes.

I think its good how it is now with few smaller artillery.
IMO the things that should be concentrated on isntead, should be the Manned airstrikes from Planes amd choppers.

Maybe also if some kind of mortar system could be added.

Re: Artillery

Posted: 2008-12-18 13:17
by Masaq
As has been said many, many times before: the team are always looking at the issue of "Commander Toys" and will revise the period between artillery strikes as they feel appropriate each release.

Tirak wrote:The mods have left the thread open for some reason or another, so I believe the debate is sanctioned.

Hideous oversight on my end of things, very sorry, will rectify the problem forwith.