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Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 03:37
by M_Striker
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:not at all, we are just trying to equip every faction with 3 "classes" of APC:
Light APC (50cal weapon, EG: Strkyer, WZ551A)
Medium APC (Cannon and Coaxial weapons, EG: LAV-25, Warrior, etc)
Heavy APC (Cannon, Coaxial and AT missile / weapon, EG: M2A2 Bradley, BMP-3)
This gives us a lot of flexibility as to how we can put on our maps and how we can balance them
Now hold on, is the BDRM now even considered an APC? I mean, my guess is that it is the equivalent of the U.S. HUMVEE (despite the 14.7 mm cannon). I would love to see someone make a chart showing which vehicles are equivalent to each other.
Anyways, so this is the MG on the the MEC T-72 tank currently huh?
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 03:51
by Rhino
FLOZi wrote:Presumably the new MG will get into Chinese deployable MG pits too?

Though I'm not sure what other vehicles it will go on, unless the new chinese tank is nearly ready
na, this MG is only used on vehicles from what I've seen, would need to confirm it with HeavyZ but I have not seen it used on anything but vehicles.
M_Striker wrote:Now hold on, is the BDRM now even considered an APC? I mean, my guess is that it is the equivalent of the U.S. HUMVEE (despite the 14.7 mm cannon). I would love to see someone make a chart showing which vehicles are equivalent to each other.
Anyways, so this is the MG on the the MEC T-72 tank currently huh?
Well, the BDRM aint a APC, in PR it comes more into the class of "recon vehicle", ie, what the Scimitar fits into as well, but only with a scratch hehe.
And na, the MG on the T-72 is the Kord, its a vBF2 MG that was never used ingame

Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 04:03
by waldo_ii
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:I know many devs (including myself) let things slip once they have been handed a few pints
Hey Rhino, I've got a friend here I would like you to meet, his name is Mr. Scotch...
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 05:17
by PRC_Heavy_Z
Regarding some questions about this new MG:
1. It will be only used on armored vehicles, not the deployable machine gun positions. What's unique about this machine gun is that it could aim and shoot at an angle almost perpendicular to the the ground level. This aspect would make this weapon quite effective against choppers, especially little birds and other transport choppers.
2. Like Rhino stated, it'd be rather difficult to snipe the gunner out of the cupola. However, explosives will do the trick. The gunner of the MG will be almost impossible to kill when he aims the gun above ~35 degrees since he ducks in the turret. In real life, at around the ~35 degree point, the gunner could use the optic box mounted on the stand to provide accurate fire from inside the vehicle (he basically ducks in the turret but is still able to shoot).
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 06:15
by -=TB=-Tobakfromcuba
i dont like receiving headshots while gunning the .50. but not anything in pr is mirror balanced, nor is it in rl.
so im sure ill like using the vehicle and trying to keep away from snipers and strykers.
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 06:18
by Rhino
-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba wrote:and trying to keep away from snipers and strykers.
Like HZ said, you should be more afraid with anything with explosives than bullets since any explosion that goes off near that shield will most likely kill the gunner

Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 09:41
by KP
Sweet!
Now how about some more choppers for the PLA, eh?

*nudge nudge*
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:09
by Aquiller
A gunner still needs crewman kit for operating the turret?
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:13
by cyberzomby
Awesome job! and wow! Nice "contracting" there! A proffesional game artist and a soon to be one!
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:18
by J.F.Leusch69
[R-MOD]KP wrote:Sweet!
Now how about some more choppers for the PLA, eh?

*nudge nudge*
i donot know what you are talking

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Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:36
by Spaz
I really like this, not only does it look great I think it will be great for gameplay. You really can't use this to just hunt down kills so hopefully people will really use this one to transport infantry.
BTW the sights look great, good work once again devs!

Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:41
by Brummy
Yay more stuff for the chinese

Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:42
by Brummy
Meh, damn edit button, also, will the Wz551 (the cannon one) be adjusted to this model?
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:47
by SuperTimo
no the removal of all APC cannons is coming!!!!
only messing looks good and i'm sure it will be supplemented with other vehicles

Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 10:48
by Neo_Mapper
looks epic... But I can already see the frustrated players, who got headshotted by a stryker. Yeah you shouldn't attack another light APC. But on public matches the things look different, usually =/
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 11:05
by Tom1c
Nice work... will it take the same time as in striker before you can operate the MG?
Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 11:18
by Kontrollturm
Very good work! But i have to say, that i dont like the Texture of the chineese vehicles. They dont look, like they are Highres. Im sure its an lowpriority thing, but this would make this apc more Epic

Re: [Vehicles / Weapons] WZ551A with QJC-88 12.7mm MG
Posted: 2009-03-01 11:19
by Scot
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:not at all, we are just trying to equip every faction with 3 "classes" of APC:
Light APC (50cal weapon, EG: Strkyer, WZ551A)
Medium APC (Cannon and Coaxial weapons, EG: LAV-25, Warrior, etc)
Heavy APC (Cannon, Coaxial and AT missile / weapon, EG: M2A2 Bradley, BMP-3)
This gives us a lot of flexibility as to how we can put on our maps and how we can balance them
So the British getting the Bulldog? Or do they get Mastiff? Or both *looks on hopefully with puppy dog eyes*