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Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 11:42
by Twisted Helix
LudacrisKill wrote:iGi?? Very rarely see it full for a long time but when it is, it has the best gaming with most of the players being in respected clans or members of CATA/NATO.
I rest my case. Its only the servers where admins are both on frequently and enforce the rules, that are full nearly 24/7. That seems to be what the public want.
Another incident in which someone has been kicked/banned for using a tactic thats not apparent to the admins? Pathetic.
OK ludacriskill ... its beginning to sound like sour grapes. You got banned from a server and now you want to complain about it.

You have had your say and I am sure your points have been noted, but the purpose of this forum is not for someone with a grudge to bang their little drum.

I am sure that if you wanted to dispute your ban, that going through the right channels and questioning it would be far more constructive. Most clans have a dispute resolution system for server bans.

Your tone here though is making it look like you deserved the ban to be honest ....

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 11:51
by Shaolin_Drunk
fubar++ wrote:UKWF members tend to use named squads a lot and they surely enforce the server rules in that particular case. But what I've seen it's been always done by the rules and not abused. Though named squads are a bit problematic when you want to combine some assets together and the rule could sometimes be approached more teleological manner.
Yes the naming thing can cause problems but generally it does work, and keeping Armour together in one squad improves their effectiveness over having several squads which limits comms between the vehicles. Unfortunately not everyone who plays on the server has common sense so the rule makes sure that we dont have 4 tank squads sitting round at main waiting for 1 tank to spawn while theres another 3 pilot squads sitting round on the helipad waiting for a chopper, leaving 1 infantry squad to do everything. Extreme example but i've seen it happen elsewhere!
The wasting of assets can swing a game which is why we try to ensure that they are used to their potential as much as possible.
fubar++ wrote:UKWF members tend also often pack together on the same side, which is good for that particular side as they run over the opposite team about 90 % of the time, but it isn't very balanced and much of fun for the loosing side.
I wish we were that good to run over the enemy 90% of the time, but it's rarely the case and winning streaks rarely last more than a couple rounds. If we won that often then it wouldnt be any fun for us or anyone else on the server. While we do often put UKWF on one side, (to stop accusations of cheating/giving away locations of firebases) in those cases we also try to put players with clan tags on the opposite team to balance it out. However with there being no ranking or other such system of gauging a player's ability apart from what players we know to be good, all we can do is move ourselves or other players about if its unbalanced for more than a couple rounds running.
fubar++ wrote:The server admins might practice the use of warnings a bit more often and not to go directly for kicks and bans, because some of the rules are not so very common.
We do try to warn wherever possible but with all thats going on ingame players often miss the warnings or dont notice them and so we have to resort to kicks. We do ask that you read the rules before joining so that players know not to solo vehicles, name their squads etc before they start playing and then we wouldnt have to do so much work admining and can just concentrate on enjoying the game!
fubar++ wrote:But overall the server has been enjoyable to play and one of the favorites of mine at the moment.
Pleased your enjoying it. As has been said before we cant please everyone all the time but we do try our best, and despite some negative feedback we must be doing something right as its always full from mid morning till the early hours.

See you on the battlefield!

Shaolin

Ps. Ludacris please feel free to visit our website, submit a ticket and a UKWF moderator will look into it. We have a ban appeal process that has been in place for a while and looks into every ticket that is submitted.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 12:39
by LudacrisKill
Originally Posted by fubar++
The server admins might practice the use of warnings a bit more often and not to go directly for kicks and bans, because some of the rules are not so very common.
One of the main problems I found. Got no warning or wasnt clear. I very rarely miss anything said in shout, I apologise if I did. However I believe did not get any or any adequet warning(s) for my kick and ban.
OK ludacriskill ... its beginning to sound like sour grapes. You got banned from a server and now you want to complain about it.

You have had your say and I am sure your points have been noted, but the purpose of this forum is not for someone with a grudge to bang their little drum.

I am sure that if you wanted to dispute your ban, that going through the right channels and questioning it would be far more constructive. Most clans have a dispute resolution system for server bans.

Your tone here though is making it look like you deserved the ban to be honest ....
Im not being sour, I really dont care about the ban. I just want other players to know what I and others think about the server and clan. You may want to re-read my posts as I think its quite clear 'I will not be playing on the server even if im not banned'.
I am sure that if you wanted to dispute your ban
Please do not try and 2nd guess a situation from an armchair. You are far from right.

Edit: I will not be posting anymore here unless issues are said concerning me or my fellow clan mates. If you would like to talk to me with a issue that does not need to concern the public I can be messaged to my forum account or you can speak to me at http://www.lost-platoon.be wether it be on the clan forum or in TS.

Thank you.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 12:48
by ConSs
LudacrisKill wrote:iGi?? Very rarely see it full for a long time but when it is, it has the best gaming with most of the players being in respected clans or members of CATA/NATO.
You see, not all (read: even skilled) players want to be in a clan. And I hate nothing more than a server packed with different, locked clan squads. How can clanless players play a good game if they're left outside? Besides, I just don't understand all the hatred of yours. I mean, don't you have better things to do than diss this server all the time? Or is it perhaps the purpose or mission of your life?

I'm just saying you shouldn't judge a server based on a couple of bad games. There will ALWAYS be bad games on EVERY server. I have mostly had very good games on this server, but it kinda does require being in ENG VOIP or similiar teamwork based squad. I respect UKWF admins and they can be very good squadleaders :)

Some UKWF admins/players could, however, cut some slack with the rules. If there's no APC squad in Jabal, and our eng voip squad takes the apc's, I don't see the point in creating APC squad and joining it just for the name ;)

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 13:01
by LudacrisKill
You see, not all (read: even skilled) players want to be in a clan. And I hate nothing more than a server packed with different, locked clan squads. How can clanless players play a good game if they're left outside?
That is true. However I imagine on a average, the server will have better teamwork and gameplay for the whole team if more clan members are on it. A lot of clans when looking for a server to join just look for the amount of tags and recognised names in the player list.
Besides, I just don't understand all the hatred of yours. I mean, don't you have better things to do than diss this server all the time? Or is it perhaps the purpose or mission of your life?
O, comon, dont resort to these types of comments. As you are so interested, if you want to know more about my life and what I do in it... Im sure I can give you my facebook account (I think its the closest insight to my life you can find on the net, unless someone has made a fan site :P )
I'm just saying you shouldn't judge a server based on a couple of bad games. There will ALWAYS be bad games on EVERY server. I have mostly had very good games on this server, but it kinda does require being in ENG VOIP or similiar teamwork based squad. I respect UKWF admins and they can be very good squadleaders :)
Ofc, however it wasnt a couple of bad games, it was becoming almost every game. I started to try and avoid the server but it was the only one with spaces and a lot of people playing on it at times.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 14:08
by MrSh@vid
fubar++ wrote:Hosting a public server isn't that black-and-white. You are right about server owners right to set the rules as they wish, but is also expected them to follow those same rules when they are set. It's like handing over a gift - You can't just give it and then suddenly decide to claim it back. When there is power over others there is always danger of abuse and rules being bent, and that's why running a public server demands discipline also from the admins.
I like to think our admins practise what we preach but please i urge any signs of this not happening to be reported.
fubar++ wrote: What comes to the server here I have found it most of times very well admined. The increasing population and incompetence of newcomers has been sometimes quite annoying but it is problem in all servers, more or less.

UKWF members tend to use named squads a lot and they surely enforce the server rules in that particular case. But what I've seen it's been always done by the rules and not abused. Though named squads are a bit problematic when you want to combine some assets together and the rule could sometimes be approached more teleological manner.

UKWF members tend also often pack together on the same side, which is good for that particular side as they run over the opposite team about 90 % of the time, but it isn't very balanced and much of fun for the loosing side.

Their is 2 reasons for us stacking,
A) We enjoy playing with each other
B) We get accused of cheating if we don't.


fubar++ wrote: The server admins might practice the use of warnings a bit more often and not to go directly for kicks and bans, because some of the rules are not so very common.

But overall the server has been enjoyable to play and one of the favorites of mine at the moment.
Several things will not be allowed to pass without punishment, Such as TK For Assests etc., however we do try to warn players who are solo'ing , have "taken" assests without asking etc.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 14:10
by MrSh@vid
LudacrisKill wrote:iGi?? Very rarely see it full for a long time but when it is, it has the best gaming with most of the players being in respected clans or members of CATA/NATO.
Yes-i've also had some fantastic games on this server.


Another incident in which someone has been kicked/banned for using a tactic thats not apparent to the admins? Pathetic.
Players are warned before being kicked unless for a serious offence.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 14:10
by MrSh@vid
RobinzHood wrote:I agree with everything Luda says here, it was like stepping back into Vanilla playing on this server.
I'm sorry to hear that, its exactly what we don't want on our server.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 14:13
by MrSh@vid
LudacrisKill wrote:One of the main problems I found. Got no warning or wasnt clear. I very rarely miss anything said in shout, I apologise if I did. However I believe did not get any or any adequet warning(s) for my kick and ban.



Im not being sour, I really dont care about the ban. I just want other players to know what I and others think about the server and clan. You may want to re-read my posts as I think its quite clear 'I will not be playing on the server even if im not banned'.
Thats a shame however i wish you luck in whatever battlefield you choose to play on.
LudacrisKill wrote:
Please do not try and 2nd guess a situation from an armchair. You are far from right.

Edit: I will not be posting anymore here unless issues are said concerning me or my fellow clan mates. If you would like to talk to me with a issue that does not need to concern the public I can be messaged to my forum account or you can speak to me at Lost Platoon wether it be on the clan forum or in TS.

Thank you.
Thankyou for your feedback, all of it is noted.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 14:16
by MrSh@vid
ConSs wrote:You see, not all (read: even skilled) players want to be in a clan. And I hate nothing more than a server packed with different, locked clan squads. How can clanless players play a good game if they're left outside? Besides, I just don't understand all the hatred of yours. I mean, don't you have better things to do than diss this server all the time? Or is it perhaps the purpose or mission of your life?

I'm just saying you shouldn't judge a server based on a couple of bad games. There will ALWAYS be bad games on EVERY server. I have mostly had very good games on this server, but it kinda does require being in ENG VOIP or similiar teamwork based squad. I respect UKWF admins and they can be very good squadleaders :)

Some UKWF admins/players could, however, cut some slack with the rules. If there's no APC squad in Jabal, and our eng voip squad takes the apc's, I don't see the point in creating APC squad and joining it just for the name ;)
Regarding your third point this will be looked into, we are always looking for ways to improve our server, please remeber we are a fairly new server, and it will take time for us to improve to the levels that are set by other servers such as IGI and TG.

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 14:58
by Shaolin_Drunk
LudacrisKill wrote: unless someone has made a fan site :P
I'll send u the link when im done! ;) :lol: :lol:

Re: UKWF Server Feedback Thread

Posted: 2009-04-27 15:42
by Shaolin_Drunk
ConSs wrote: I respect UKWF admins and they can be very good squadleaders :)
Cheers! :thumbsup: :15_cheers
ConSs wrote: Some UKWF admins/players could, however, cut some slack with the rules. If there's no APC squad in Jabal, and our eng voip squad takes the apc's, I don't see the point in creating APC squad and joining it just for the name ;)
How often is there no APC squad on jabal on our server..... ;) :lol:
The whole naming squad just makes life easier for everyone, especially us admin as it stops the whole "they took our blah blah blah" - we like an easy life and enjoy actually getting to play the game believe it or not! :lol: i know its a pain if u've already made ur squad but it stops any comeback when people nick assets from other squads and everyone knows what the other squads are doing from the squad name.

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-27 17:31
by MrSh@vid
Our Mumble Channel+Battlerecorder are now up and running.

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-27 18:02
by The Iron Dreamer
MrSh@vid wrote:Our Mumble Channel+Battlerecorder are now up and running.
lol nice one Shavid ;) You should get a promotion :razz:
But too bad for me that I don't use a mic :o ops:

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-27 19:40
by MrSh@vid
The Iron Dreamer wrote:lol nice one Shavid ;) You should get a promotion :razz:
But too bad for me that I don't use a mic :o ops:
Haha-I bet its because you sound like a girl!

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-28 13:38
by UncleSmek
What I remember from this server is a good time until you banned me for cheating.. wtf? I've never cheated on PR. And I mean never..

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-28 13:52
by The Iron Dreamer

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-28 17:46
by MrSh@vid
P2KK wrote:What I remember from this server is a good time until you banned me for cheating.. wtf? I've never cheated on PR. And I mean never..
Was about to reply to this then saw Iron Dreamer had already responded, think i'm out of a job!

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-28 18:16
by The Iron Dreamer
MrSh@vid wrote:Was about to reply to this then saw Iron Dreamer had already responded, think i'm out of a job!
it's only this time Shavid ;) Don't get too comfy :razz:

P.S. BTW the server is great.. But I think you already know my opinion...

Re: UKWF - Uk Warfare (UK)

Posted: 2009-04-28 23:12
by Rudd
Just had a kick a$$ round on Al Basrah, We pwned, We Pwned so hard that even I was hurting from the Utter Pwnage that we were giving the insurgent team.

Oh god we did pwn.

Then I went to download the Battlercording....and it can't find the file on ur server. I searched on ur forums for keywords battlerecorder and battle recorder and nothing came up. Are you using a web based interface to share BR files or is the FTP location set wrong or something?

Hope I can find it, if you are running a system where you request BR files, could you grab the round that ended on 29th April 0005hrs GMT? (yes yes I'm going to bed in a sec, that was my last round today)