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uglygun wrote:If you were to read the test target, it clearly states what it was, Hornady 750grn Amax. As for other bullets I shoot, 800grn Lapua copper solids and military surplus 700grn M2 AP for plinking.

If I can find the original test target I will post pictures of the group next to the actual bullets. The imprint left by a bullet passing through a target is rarely full caliber due to the way the paper is pushed back as the bullet penetrates. Only with handgun "wadcutter" or "semiwadcutter" bullets do you get nice clearly defined holes, makes scoring easier, that are full caliber with perfectly cut edges.



But I smell doubt so I will do what I did for a person on the Planet Battlefield forums some time back...

Sorry I wrote the wrong Dev name down, Wraith, these are for you...

http://home.bak.rr.com/varmintcong/50sb ... pulled.jpg

http://home.bak.rr.com/varmintcong/50sb ... /rifle.jpg


And yes, 50BMG bullets are smaller than a nickle in diameter. Not sure what country you are from but try measuring one. 50BMG bullets are .510 in diameter.

http://home.bak.rr.com/varmintcong/50sb ... nlapua.jpg

You might wanna spend a little less money on guns'n'ammo and a little more on you hardware - DAMN THAT MONITOR IS OLD AND UGLY

So what your saying is there is 0 tumble? Nice, gonna have to teach me that trick.

huleboeren wrote:You might wanna spend a little less money on guns'n'ammo and a little more on you hardware - DAMN THAT MONITOR IS OLD AND UGLY

LOL, it's a flat screen diamontron Mitsubishi CRT.

Excuse me for hating stupid shitty assed flat screen LCDs. I'll take my higher refresh rates and 1600x1200 any day.

Just because my monitor is probably older than you doesn't mean the PC hooked up to it is a POS as well.

And hell yes I'll cheap out, it allows me to have more of this....

terrorist!!

Hey ugly, are you in the military or just an "enthusiast?"

Hey terrorists... terrorize this

'[R-DEV wrote:Wraith']Hey ugly, are you in the military or just an "enthusiast?"

No military experience. As you can see from the join date I've been around awhile. I'm an AR15.com member(as well as at other forums) and there's a group of us that have followed Project Reality for some time.

Enthusiast, definitely. I'd have a sampling of just about everything you can imagine if it wasn't for California constantly trying to ban shit.

First it was the AR15s, stocked up on those before 2000. Then as I was recovering from that they moved on making certain handguns harder to obtain which puts strains on my S&W collection. Then, after that they had the 50BMG ban going through and I had to scrape to get into the 50BMG game before the ban. Only wish I could of afforded 1-2 more 50BMG receivers to build up at a later date, several manufacturers including Armalite and Barrett were selling stripped receivers to register and then have built to full rifles at a later date.

I compete in 3 gun, trying to get involved in F-class 1k yard shoots, and I've been a varminter for as long as I can remember(where the long range shooting fascination started). All of that aside though I'm a firm supporter of the 2nd Amendment and that there is nothing in it that mentions hunting or sport.


Older picture from shortly after I had the 50 put together(stock was from a prior AR15 build). The 50 is 5 feet long and weighs 40 pounds. The accurized AR is my varmint rifle coming in at 4 feet long and 15 pounds unloaded. And then there's the carbine with M4 length barrel.

Those are three awsome rifles for sure. I used to shoot ground squirels for a cadle farmer in the sacremento valley. Show one at ~200M with a .338. Needless to say there was nothing to collect on that one for the bounty, lol. Good times. The rest of the time I just used my Marlin .22 with a fixed 9x cheapy optic.

'[R-DEV wrote:Wraith']Those are three awsome rifles for sure. I used to shoot ground squirels for a cadle farmer in the sacremento valley. Show one at ~200M with a .338. Needless to say there was nothing to collect on that one for the bounty, lol. Good times. The rest of the time I just used my Marlin .22 with a fixed 9x cheapy optic.

There are 2 ARs not pictured above, one a fairly well modified AR10.

I prefer 223 or other high velocity 22s, the fragile Vmax bullets launch squirrels all over hell and back.

I've hit them and literally seen them fly close to 6 feet in the air and land upwards of 8-10 feet away from the point of impact.

The 50BMG has hit a tweety bird at around 150-200 yards. First shot actually missed and the stupid bird just sat there looking around kind of bewildered. Didn't rustle a single feather or flinch. 2nd shot I aimed about 2 inches low and center punched it, there was a lot more left than if I had used my 223Rem and a 40grn Vmax.


Last year up in the high desert I was shooting jacks with my accurized AR15 and I nailed a jack at about 80 yards, the bullet entered through the front and expanded so violently that it detached part of the rear leg and sent it up range about 5 feet.

Nice to see another gun owner here. What press do you have to load the ammo? RCBS, Lee, Hornady, Dillon?

RCBS 50BMG ammo master press. thing is fairly massive compared to a rock chucker.

M8/M320 wrote:People look at it. The PLA rifle is extremley similar to the new AI AS50 that the U.S. Socom chose as it's high caliber sniper rifle. http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn67-e.htm And this is why I hate playing as China, they are just a bunch of rip-offers.

Oh, I'm afraid you are wrong. 'Cuz M99 & AS50 are *QUITE DIFFERENT*. M99 is similar to M16 inside, while AS50 is similar to SKS or FAL. And M99 is 2kg lighter than AS50.

HS50 Steyr Mannlicher for the MEC (they have been found to use them, also reported they were exported to Iran by Austria Iraq then got their hands on them). China could probably get it's hands on the OSV-96 or the Truvelo .50. United States obviously would have the M95 for balance issues, the AS50 is actually highly accurate in the semi-auto fire. Britain would get the Artic Warfare Magnum. So on and so forth, I also believe that this should be a very limited kit such as 2 for a team of 32, 1 for 16, and none for any less than that.

so we're gonna get a .50 cal sniper with semi capablilities?? without the whole large kick thing from Americas Army?

Rainbow wrote:Oh, I'm afraid you are wrong. 'Cuz M99 & AS50 are *QUITE DIFFERENT*. M99 is similar to M16 inside, while AS50 is similar to SKS or FAL. And M99 is 2kg lighter than AS50.

An M99 has nothing to do with an AR15/M16, it's a bolt action bull pup and the only thing it might make use of beyond the A2 style pistol grip is the trigger with a modified linkage. And the M82 with it's recoiling barrel system is nothing like anything in the AR family.

The AS50 from what little I have seen of it on Future Weapons(hate the show host) as well as other things around the net, has much more in common with an accurized AR15/M16 in that it appears to be a direct impingement action though with a bolt carrier/bolt of modified design.

D_LaMz wrote:I call them cheek welds, never heard the term "spot welds" besides actual welding.

The bolt is not gonna hit you in the eye. Depending on the bolt throw, all you gotta worry about is if your knuckles are gonna hit the scope when you open the bolt.

You are losing accuracy with a recoil operated firearm. More parts are moving while with a bolt action, trigger pack allows the firing pin to hit the primer and thats it.

Well the "Spot Weld" term may just be an
A. Old Corps Saying (Seeing how the 60s n 70s is Old Corps now), same with "Piss Cutter", the other name for the fore n aft cover Marines wear with the Service Uniform.
B. Just a term my Dad uses and made himself from his competitive shooting days
Or lastly C. I may be mistaken and my dad has been calling it a cheek weld all these years.

The thing about the Bolt hitting you in the eye may just be with how I was tought to shoot. I always learned to put your cheek bone up against your Thumb knuckle clear up on the grip of the rifle. When you fire like that you get a better sight picture, you can easily find your normal position, and it just feels natural to me. If you fire like that the Bold will come back on the Springfield '03 and poke you in the eye. Now the M40 won't do that because the bolt on that weapon will not go out as far as a normal one.

{9thInf}GunnyMeyer wrote:
The thing about the Bolt hitting you in the eye may just be with how I was tought to shoot. I always learned to put your cheek bone up against your Thumb knuckle clear up on the grip of the rifle. When you fire like that you get a better sight picture, you can easily find your normal position, and it just feels natural to me. If you fire like that the Bold will come back on the Springfield '03 and poke you in the eye. Now the M40 won't do that because the bolt on that weapon will not go out as far as a normal one.

All depends on the optics you are using or if it's iron sights.

Eye relief being such that it may put your eye close to the eye piece of the optic or very far away from it.

Short actions like the Rem 700 short action the M40 is built on will be less problematic than something like a M24 SWS built on the long action.

But my 300WinMag with the optic it is using has zero problems with the bolt clearing. Eye relief of the scope dictates where your cheek weld is, try to put cheek to thumb and you will not get shit for a sight picture.

uglygun wrote:No, you can fire them from the standing just fine. Been there done it and there's plenty of videos of firing 50s from standing position all over the net.

Firing from the prone is done for precision due to the effects of 28-40 pound rifles on your arms and trying to shoot them from the standing.

Well, I stand corrected. Did you hit right where you wanted, though?

BTW, nice to see you back. Did you run out of gophers to wage war on?

{9thInf}GunnyMeyer wrote: The thing about the Bolt hitting you in the eye may just be with how I was tought to shoot. I always learned to put your cheek bone up against your Thumb knuckle clear up on the grip of the rifle. When you fire like that you get a better sight picture, you can easily find your normal position, and it just feels natural to me. If you fire like that the Bold will come back on the Springfield '03 and poke you in the eye. Now the M40 won't do that because the bolt on that weapon will not go out as far as a normal one.

Wow, you put your face really close to the receiver. I always put my cheek on the stock, but thats because I only shoot scoped bolt actions.

Prodical wrote: Britain would get the Artic Warfare Magnum.

They already do. Sniper kit.


(At least, that's what it looks and sounds like.)