Coffeeshop #1 (Europe)

[volks]

well, it was a decent server for me till today. 65th nontal fut or whatever the name, kicked me for nonsence

here is what happened

I get onto a truck with a guy called "pentti" driving. He was transporting me but on the way to const site he hit a mine which was placed and marked by 65th bla bla guy. However, at the end i misclicked punished him for TK, but it was unintentional at all.

He Kicked me out of the server because i punished him unintentionally. And he didnt even let me write what happened. He just kicked in a second.


Now, i am also a server admin, and i'have been doing this for a long time, and i know how things work. So dont tell me this guys made a right choice.

He was, selfish and silly enough to kick ppl for just his own sake without giving chance to them to explain what happened.

From now on, Coffeshop is still a decent server for me, but with that attitude, i cannot respect you at all.

[Vulc@no]

yeah yeah flaming here and there, flaming here and there.............

admins make only mistakes
players are innocent and holy.........................................
hey, you drive over a marked mine, why punished for a accident ???
is your "pic_up" key out of order ???
its a admin decision, respekt it, and in then 5 minutes you cant rejoin to deliberate what you do
many players drive or running over marked mines, marked claymores, and bubytraps, nobody forgive, all punish, the punishfunction is for people he doing that with mind, not for a accident
is that your feeling about respect, companionship, fairplay ????

[volks]

yeah yeah flaming here and there, flaming here and there.............

admins make only mistakes
players are innocent and holy.........................................
hey, you drive over a marked mine, why punished for a accident ???
is your "pic_up" key out of order ???
its a admin decision, respekt it, and in then 5 minutes you cant rejoin to deliberate what you do
many players drive or running over marked mines, marked claymores, and bubytraps, nobody forgive, all punish, the punishfunction is for people he doing that with mind, not for a accident
is that your feeling about respect, companionship, fairplay ????

1-) You are weak on arguing people, since you cant even read properly, so i dont suggest you to go out and argue with people on public. I WAS NOT DRIVING AT ALL. Driver hit the mine and kept making fun of that. And instead of him, i got kicked.
2-) As i wrote before, YES i misclicked the punish button since there is no need to punish the guy who puts a marker on his mine ofc.
3-) The point here, is not about flaming at all, this is a feedback to your admin perspective. You DIDNT EVEN let me write down that it was my mistake to punish, i mean, what could you lose when someone punish you at all. Why it is so damn important? You didnt even ask me WHY? I was kicked while i was explaining the situation in team chat.
4-) Obviously, you guys misunderstood the word authority. You should not kick people just because you get pissed. Instead, you should make sure you know exactly what happened.
5-) Companion? The thing i do here is companion mate. I'm suggesting you guys no to do such things since it may be complicated after sometime. Coffeshop is still a good server for me, despite your admin started criticising me for getting a sniper kit on fortress to kill the ENEMY ENGINEERS laying down mines down there after i get onto the server again. I love coffeshop and i just wanted to react this way since the action taken by the admin was not proper and cannot be the kindest thing ever.

Those were my last words about this issue. Anymore problems : Private Message.

Thanks

[UAA]OReely

[65th-Nonntal_FUT]

hey oreely,

after ur squadmate drove over the marked mine, i got a INSTEAD punish from one of u guys. Insteadly i wrote who punished me for a teamkill, which took about 10 seconds. as ur driver respawned 20sec later, he awnerd "it wasnt me", so I opend console and searched for the other player which took me 30sec. During this time was no excuse about ur accidantial punishment, so i decided to kick therefor.

As u write, coffeeshop is one of the highest frequented german PR server and this is a result of teamplay and fairness which ur community is looking forward. Punishing is no fairplay or teamplay, neigther is closing squads, using AA, HAT and Sniper kit on Fortress when west city (muthra) is already capped by MEC. Have a look on the attached screen shot. As there was already a stationary AA placed on fortress i asked myself ingame (team channel) why we hace 3 squads up on fortress when we need u in West city (it was just capped by the americans). Anyways, it was just a kick cause of punishing, which is also not tolerated on coffeeshop.

BTW.: Baseraping/camping with mines istn't tolerated on coffeeshop so there is no use for a sniper kit on fortress, I call that kitwasting cause other players may need this kit. If u see an enemy engeneer mining the exits of mec maine base, just report it ingame and admins will switch sides to kick/ ban this soldier.

yours
Nonntal

[-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba]

ehm just a question, who is defending mosque on that screen? no choppers anymore for the americans in 0.95?
usmc could easily drop a full squad in front of it and start capping while 1/3 of the team is far away on north city and docks.

now it would be essential to have a sniper/HAT/AA to cover this one.

[=]H[=[Amish]Kommando]

Maybe you should take this "discussion" to the forums?

[-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba]

see i just saw the screen here so responded in this place cause i was wondering what was wrong with the guys on the mec fortress. a simple answer to my polite asked question would be great.

[crot]

Guys, does this server have a battlerecorder. I had this awesome assault on a FOB in Kashan today. Just me and my buddy, sneaked in on a 7 man FOB with AA and TOW emplacements, while he was covering me I sneaked up on the guys seating on AA and TOW, bayoneted both of them. Then we got into a firefight with the others, who were spotters, killed them. Then we almost got killed by a nade, but due to our ninja skills we somehow lived and killed the remaining two guys and wrecked the FOB. Sucks that I didnt have my fraps running (

FYI, all this was revenge cuz they blew up our tank

[puckett]

I love the server, Even though I'm Canadian and cant speak german. I like playing on it, Generally teamwork and the people are friendly.

[puckett]

hey oreely,

after ur squadmate drove over the marked mine, i got a INSTEAD punish from one of u guys. Insteadly i wrote who punished me for a teamkill, which took about 10 seconds. as ur driver respawned 20sec later, he awnerd "it wasnt me", so I opend console and searched for the other player which took me 30sec. During this time was no excuse about ur accidantial punishment, so i decided to kick therefor.

As u write, coffeeshop is one of the highest frequented german PR server and this is a result of teamplay and fairness which ur community is looking forward. Punishing is no fairplay or teamplay, neigther is closing squads, using AA, HAT and Sniper kit on Fortress when west city (muthra) is already capped by MEC. Have a look on the attached screen shot. As there was already a stationary AA placed on fortress i asked myself ingame (team channel) why we hace 3 squads up on fortress when we need u in West city (it was just capped by the americans). Anyways, it was just a kick cause of punishing, which is also not tolerated on coffeeshop.

BTW.: Baseraping/camping with mines istn't tolerated on coffeeshop so there is no use for a sniper kit on fortress, I call that kitwasting cause other players may need this kit. If u see an enemy engeneer mining the exits of mec maine base, just report it ingame and admins will switch sides to kick/ ban this soldier.

yours
Nonntal

Nothing wrong with people being in the fortress. I hate servers whom do not allow you to attack it before you take all the caps.

[ninja]

Today me and my friends we got kicked and some banned cause we called our Squad Trans/CAS (on Kashan desert) during there was already a cas Squad wich was made at 1:31 wich is actually not allowed what i know =P.

And even tough we only used transport choppers and kind of at the time the other squad complained to the admins all the time and it started to get onto our neves. After describing that we are a TRANSPORT / CAS squad wich means we use transport aswell. They kept on complaining and even other stuff on german like the little kids they are.

So we resisted to go out of squad because we were flying the Transportchoppers and the admin started to help the complainers with complaining aswell and begun removing one of us out the squad. After some time of whining we called em some names and to stop complaining wich resulted in a permanent ban for one of my mates and everyone got kicked.

So if the admins would be so kind as to not instant kick people who can't leave the squad since they're in the air, and then afterwards ban them. Also I think removing the permanent ban for "The-Super-Timo" and any other bans on the people in our squad should be lifted. People in the squad "[PR]NATO|DonDOOM". "theprinceofparkour". "Ninja[AUT]", "The-Super-Timo"

[DonDOOM]

We were all on TS and all in the air when we got removed from the squad and kicked/banned afterwards.
We told the admins repeadetly that we'd rename the squad after we all landed, which they seemed to ignore and started calling us names in German.
A pathetic show of administration.
I'm sure one of the admins was called "sniper" something with clantags.
Whoever is the owner of this server should seriously think about who he gives admin rights to. Because clearly the admins that were on today were acting really unfairly.

[F4mou$$]

hello guys,

what you post in only the half of the truth.we have on the coffee assets-rules.that means btw that no duplicated squads are allowed.[gis]+ opened 1 cas squad.you opened a 2nd one.they post in the team-chat that this arent allowed.NO Response from your squad.the admin warns you a lot of time.and no response.then 1 or 2 guys are resigned and kicked.after this you post in the global "sniper-DICKHEAT++++" and so on.we have the logfiles already and it can be post.thats normaly after this abuse that you will be tb or banned.i dont like players like you who connecting on the server without any idea about the rules.this a reason why a team arent come into playing cause of many discussions and blocking hw and so on.
please next time inform you about the rules and dont post only the half truth.
if we post the logfile here anybobdy would support our reaction.


regards

plan-b | F4mou$$_ULTRA

[DonDOOM]

Hey there Famous,

After having fully played the previous round and won, the map switched to Kashan.
Both the GIS guys and us made a squad at the same time, theirs was squad 1 called "CAS" ours was squad 2 called "CAS/TRANS".
Since we were already in the air with 2 cows, busy trying to get some people up a hill with a H-AT, we, atleast I didn't see the GIS guys typing anything in chat.
After I got warned by an admin, I told the guys to fly back to main and that we'd make a different squad.
When we were almost back at main, an admin randomly resigns me from the squad, and kicks my pilot, which made the cow crash near the MEC base.

I'm sure one of my squad mates got angry and typed something hateful in the chat, but I don't blame him for that. Afterwards I tried reasoning with the admins, but the chat messages got spammed with everyone getting involved, so they probably didn't read my messages.
I made a new squad, and told my mates to join it, just at that time "Ninja[AUT]" got kicked and soon after me.
Another squad mate even got a permanent ban.
And the reasons the admin gave for kicking us was "language", which seemed very silly since alot of guys called us names in German, that atleast I don't understand very well.

We all have been playing PR for over 3 years, some of us longer, and we do know that some servers use asset rules, and we normally abide by those rules.
Next time try to give the people a bit more time, and not instantly kick after a warning.
And thus I stick with my previous statement, that yesterday was a very poor show of administration.
I'd very much like to see the log file, since the chat ingame got spammed with loads of messages, I couldn't read them all.

[BloodBane611]

You have all been warned for violating the ban appeals rule - https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f29-pr ... -read.html

There will be no ban appeals in this forum - period.

[DonDOOM]

Sorry about the rant, this wasn't really a ban appeal though.
It was supposed to be feedback on the administration that day on the Coffeeshop server.
My apologies again, and I'll be sure to take it to their forums next time

[ninja]

what you post in only the half of the truth.we have on the coffee assets-rules.that means btw that no duplicated squads are allowed.[gis]+ opened 1 cas squad.you opened a 2nd one.they post in the team-chat that this arent allowed.NO Response from your squad.the admin warns you a lot of time.and no response.then 1 or 2 guys are resigned and kicked.after this you post in the global "sniper-DICKHEAT++++" and so on.we have the logfiles already and it can be post.thats normaly after this abuse that you will be tb or banned.i dont like players like you who connecting on the server without any idea about the rules.this a reason why a team arent come into playing cause of many discussions and blocking hw and so on.
please next time inform you about the rules and dont post only the half truth.
if we post the logfile here anybobdy would support our reaction.

Sure go ahead and post the logfile i dont mind. ^^
But then id like to see the logfile from the whole beginning not just little bits out of it.
And i told in my above post that I insulted the admin wich was removing us even tough it was only I saying dickheat and i wont deny it and i understand the kick for it. But im just critizing here the admin decisions not that i got kicked for insulting someone.

[kev28811]

the coffeeshop admins are absolutely stupid because:

- they kick without warning...
- they dont know they're own rules (they builded a mortar base in dead zone and i asked whats the rule about that and they answered "there is no rule about that at the moment" XD every other server got rules for that LOL)
- some admins can only communicate with bad language
and last but not least there are always mapchanges and sometimes if they cant win the battle they quit it without reason

so i cant support that server anymore
every other server is better administrated then that.....

[Vulc@no]

[17:50 GLOBAL ] kev28811: WARUM KICKT IHR MICH EINFACH????
[17:51 GLOBAL ] kev28811: UND WEHE JETZT KOMMT WAS MIT TAXI!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:51 TEAM 1 ] Brotherhood790: JA JA KEV IS TAXI GEFAHREN
[17:51 GLOBAL ] BurningCow321: ISSO!!!
[17:51 TEAM 2 ] kev28811: ANTWORT??
[17:51 TEAM 2 ] kev28811: sowas is unter aller sau eh echt
[17:52 TEAM 2 ] [sCs] snakeshitswiss: kev ich habe auch noch anderes zu machen als mich mit dir abzugen
[17:52 TEAM 2 ] kev28811: XD HA da will man teamwork machen und wird bestraft geil eh SUPER SERVER
[17:53 TEAM 2 ] kev28811: OHNE WARNUNG NIX
[17:54 GLOBAL ] kev28811: zum glueck gibt es ja ein project redality forum wo man su paar sachen reinschreiben kann
[17:55 TEAM 2 ] [sCs] snakeshitswiss: ja mach nur stoert keinen
[17:55 GLOBAL ] kev28811: okay
[17:56 TEAM 2 ] [sCs] snakeshitswiss: kund wenn du einen supply nimst ohne officer kit kann das durch aus mal vorkommen

first,
you get a kick, for drive a supplytruck, without a sql leaderkit, you are not in a squad, you are not commander, and the admin was belief, you use the supply truck as a taxi, to drive to your targetlocation.
this is the admin decision, and remember it was only a kick
and sorry, for your other accusation i cant find someone in our chatlog, ask via ingamevoice ????

to run down other people is easier as own mistakes admit thats the way, i like this "feedbacks"
thx 4 playing on coffeeshop the worst server

admins make only mistakes
players are innocent and holy

[kev28811]

i did no mistakes..... i didnt even wrote something.... AND i couldnt request a officer kit because i just opend my sq. after i joined the server.... so PLEASE explain the kick reason, i followed all rules, i just drove a truck out of the main to bring them crates....
In this case I have great pride
and this sentence:
[sCs] snakeshitswiss: kev ich habe auch noch anderes zu machen als mich mit dir abzugen
has brought the water to overflow...