AKM for AK using faction

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Bellator
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by Bellator »

my record is 33 seconds
Our prigade had an undersergeant who could disassamble and reassemble an Rk 95 (which is basically an Ak copy) in 15 seconds.
GeorgRavioli
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by GeorgRavioli »

There've been Polish trials where dudes dissasembled AK's in like 5 seconds. I don't know about reassembling though. But Bignerof, yes soldiers use M4's and L85A2's with vertical grips alot. That's my point with the AKM. Estimated amount of AKM's made is around 40,000,000, and that's just the russian variants. Estimated amount of AK-47's made is 10,000,000 (once again, russian made). Think of all the romainian, serbian, chinese, bulgarian, and other countries' AKM's floating around in the world.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Secti ... hlarge.jpg
I can tell all these rifles are AKM's or Type 56's (which is a Chinese mix of AKM and AK-47 Type 3) because of the bayonet or front sight.

Plus, while the Americans (mainly CIA) gave huge amounts of Type 56's to the Mujahideen during the Russo-Afghan war, the Soviet Union and countries inside of it supplied AKM's and AIM's (romainian AKM's with forward grip) to the Afghan National Army.
GeorgRavioli
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by GeorgRavioli »

Bump. I'd like to change the reasoning of this thread; I wouldn't like the AKM in game because it has less recoil or improved features, I'd like it in-game because it is far more common. The only circulating Type 2/Type 3 AK's these days are made by Polish, Bulgarian and Chinese companies, which are either pimped with rails and plastic handguards, or made with mock-milled receivers. The AKM is still being produced by Izhmash in Russia, as well as tens of companies outside of Russia. I promise you, if you are in Iraq or Afghanistan, it will be 10x more likely to find an AKM variant than an AK-47 Type 2 or 3 variant.

"The extremely high reliability and ease of handling have gained for the Kalshnikov assault rifle a world-wide reputation, ensured long life and high popularity. The AK and AKM are currently operational in more than 55 countries of the world (actually this weapon is being used in more than 100 countries). More than 15 countries are still producing Kalashnikov assaults rifles on the production lines the their own versions of AK and AKM."
-russian-weapons.com
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ShockUnitBlack
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by ShockUnitBlack »

I strongly support this suggestion... It's not really that I think we need a completely new weapon, with completely different handling or a AK-47 replacement, but I'm pro faction-diversity. Right now we have (four?) factions using either the AK-47, the AKS-47, the AK-74, or the AKS-74 (the militia uses the last one, right?) Whether or not the weapon is an AKM or a Soviet satellite-state copy, it would be nice if all the factions had different weapon variants if possible. Anyway, couldn't you simply modify an existing model into a slightly-different one without too much difficulty (the 47 into the AKM, for example).
GeorgRavioli
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by GeorgRavioli »

I think it would be hard to convert an AK-47 to an AKM, but I think you could do so with the AK-74 as a base; the AK-74 has a similar stamped receiver, and the furniture is almost identical (with minor changes such as no imprint on the stock). From there, all you have to do is take the 7.62x39mm AK-47 magazine, use a 45-degree angled gas block, and an AKM front sight (the slant muzzle brake is optional, I personally prefer my AKMs without it). We can also for an AKMS use the AKS-47 stock and rotate it so it is more straight/in line with the receiver.

Also, the problem isn't just diversity; I think we need to reduce the amount of milled AK-47s and AK-74s if we get an AKM model (I don't see how the Iraqi Insurgents got their hands on AK-74s). But yes, it doesn't need new handling (it can handle like the AK-47 with slightly less recoil), but it would need to be the primary AK found in non-russian hands.
nedlands1
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by nedlands1 »

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley wrote:And yet still no one has actually provided a source which verifies the original claim and the core of this suggestion, that the compensator on the AKM completley eliminates muzzle climb.


In the case of this shooter the compensator appears to change the muzzle climb to muzzle drop :D (see 10:46).
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Human_001
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by Human_001 »

Hello there. It is old thread but as far as I can remember we finally could not find the video where a person is giving a demonstration of slant muzzle brake.

Now few years later such video is available. I'm always thankful to whoever uploads anything informative on the Internet.

I thought peoples who wrote or read this thread and are interested in AK might find this informative.

To refresh your memory, this thread was about how AKM's difference from original AK47 regarding slant muzzle brake and straight buttstock will eliminate muzzle climb original AK47 had and caused controllability issue.

The gun in video is 7.62X39 with straight buttstock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGixCAb0B8

Sorry I can't make video show up correctly. When Devs come by please fix. That is the Youtube adress.
ComradeHX
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by ComradeHX »

This should have been done a long time ago.
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smgunsftw
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by smgunsftw »

Yeah, it's kinda of unrealistic for Iraqi Insurgents to be using AK-74 assault rifles as one of their rifleman weapons, the 74's should be replaced by the AKM by now. It might make sense for the Taliban faction to use AK-74 rifles, as some were left behind by Soviet forces during their withdraw from the Soviet-Afgan war.
Geronimo
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by Geronimo »

Hi, my first post here and hopefully it's useful. There you go:

AK47 Flash Hider and Muzzle Brake Comparison - YouTube
0:15 No Muzzle Device attached (AK47-Variants and Type56)
2:19 AK74 Compensator (not the original one)
3:03 AKM Muzzle Brake
Eddie Baker
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by Eddie Baker »

ComradeHX wrote:This should have been done a long time ago.
Yeah, why haven't you gotten on that, yet?! :lol:
RUSSIAN147
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by RUSSIAN147 »

I think from memory there is an AKM being made by the Syrian Conflict guys.
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ComradeHX
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by ComradeHX »

[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:Yeah, why haven't you gotten on that, yet?! :lol:
I have not seen this entire thread until yesterday as it was buried in sea of thread of good ideas.
DavviZ
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by DavviZ »

Ak-47 with less recoil? It's gonna be blufor rape if you ask me. The 47 is already a mad tool to get a ton of kills
ComradeHX
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Re: AKM for AK using faction

Post by ComradeHX »

DavviZ wrote:Ak-47 with less recoil? It's gonna be blufor rape if you ask me. The 47 is already a mad tool to get a ton of kills
Well if BluFor actually used their advantage at long range properly...

7.62x39mm AK variant does need damage to be toned down a little; maybe 2 shots black and white in 5s instead of 2 shots down.
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