New Assault rifle

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-05-26 19:41

The cannon's all full of sand. Just imagine the mess that'll make when it fires.

Perhaps if the tank's added a system could be added to make the handling suddenly go out of control to simulate the poor tank drivers, increasing the likelihood of driving into say, a ditch or a river.

hop_ic · Post by **hop_ic** » 2006-05-26 19:44

Israeli forces would be cool because I bet they will be fighting a war against muslim countries soon so it would be realistic. Then MEC could attack for a change instead of defending against the USMC all the time.

Zepheris Casull · Post by **Zepheris Casull** » 2006-05-27 03:45

realistically, none of the arab countries are keen on fighting the israel again. In the past a lot of them would curse and threw ultimatum to the israel, and in the past they DID attacked israel, sometimes in one whole coallition force of arab nations. Except the israel on each of thoose fight turned the table against them and in each one of them they inflicted casualties sometimes in excess of 5 to 1, let's not even talk about their air victory... that's not even a dogfight, the IAF more often than not just steam rolled their opposition like a slaughter house

So israel pretty much kicked them in the butt on every single war they had before and after getting their limbs crippled multiple times they seems to have learned their lesson and prefer to avoid direct open warfare against Israel which they are quite profficient at now against the arab coallition. The thing though is that several of the old israel nemesis bought US hardware in the last decade or so, Egypt for instance now posses a sizeable fleet of abrams MBT which skew the hardware quality distribution into a more balanced share now.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-05-27 04:29

You guys are bieng very unrealistic, and

It's still being developed and looks to be working on the OICW system like many other AR's.

Wrong this weapon system has been in service since the early 90's.

hop_ic · Post by **hop_ic** » 2006-05-27 05:05

Crawley wrote:You guys are bieng very unrealistic, and

Wrong this weapon system has been in service since the early 90's.

Hey I thought that this might be a cool weapon to add but then I have to hear this smart alec stuff. Stop tyring to make people feel dumb it just causes problems.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-05-27 05:11

You guys are bieng very unrealistic

I never said or tryed to make anyone feel stupid, but trying to add weapons that are way out of line is a waste of time.

hop_ic · Post by **hop_ic** » 2006-05-27 05:12

sry man

I thought by the way the post was written you were being a smart alec. I am really sorry.

IDF-Godzilla · Post by **IDF-Godzilla** » 2006-05-27 05:33

Zepheris Casull wrote:Egypt for instance now posses a sizeable fleet of abrams MBT which skew the hardware quality distribution into a more balanced share now.

Just for you to know, the Egyptian Abrams tank are not as the American made ones, i dont think they have DU armor on them, and dont forget the crew training effect here.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-05-27 05:37

sry man I thought by the way the post was written you were being a smart alec. I am really sorry.

no problem what so ever man

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2006-05-27 09:33

IDF-Godzilla wrote:Just for you to know, the Egyptian Abrams tank are not as the American made ones, i dont think they have DU armor on them, and dont forget the crew training effect here.

Indeed, as was proven in the 1991 gulf war, when 2 roughly evenly matched tanks come into combat the crusial factor is how good the crew are, if the Iraqi T-72 crews had been as well trained as the American M1 or British Challenger crews then the tank battles would have been much bloodier.

Indeed, some US officers have stated that if they had been using the T-72 in that war and the Iraqis had the M1 the outcome would still have been the same in those tank battles.

Also, in regard to whole Isreal thing, if the arab forces could allow thier SAM sheild to move foreward with thier attacking units they would have a much greater chance against the Isreali forces, because, if you look at the 1973 Yom Kippor war, in the opening stages when the Egyptitan forces advanced accross the Suez canal they were still under their own SAM sheild and the Isreali counter attacks were decimated. If the Egyptians hadnt moved 8 of their armoued bregades out from under the SAM sheild the Isrealis would have had a much tougher time disloging the Egyptian forces. Now, if they'd had mobile SAMs they could have pushed all the way accross the Saini and possibly even threatend Isreal's original tereratory.

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2006-05-27 17:02

IDF-Godzilla wrote:Just for you to know, the Egyptian Abrams tank are not as the American made ones, i dont think they have DU armor on them, and dont forget the crew training effect here.

i guess 1 phrase to describe israel is 'small but technologically advanced'

Solitas · Post by **Solitas** » 2006-05-27 19:15

Crawley wrote:You guys are bieng very unrealistic, and

Wrong this weapon system has been in service since the early 90's.

Yes I know the rifles finished and is in service in some parts of the world (I know India purchased some but I don't know if their still using them?).

I actually just got my words mixed up (happens alot bloody dyslexia lol), I meant to say it was still being manufactured and there is further development to include the OICW system.

Also you say early 90's, afaik it started production in the early 90s (1991 I think) but wasn't ready until 1998, and the majority of testing took place in '99 by the IDF.

Anywya apologies for the confusion.

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2006-05-27 19:50

mybe we could includ it in the MEC (but i think it would look gd with the chinese personally!)

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2006-05-27 19:52

00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:It is used by Isreal(sp?), so it probably won't be in there unless it is used by them. It really isn't that new either. Look it up on World Guns/Modern Firearms.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as30-e.htm

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-05-27 19:53

G.Drew wrote:mybe we could includ it in the MEC (but i think it would look gd with the chinese personally!)

There is no reason for it to be included. And the Chinese have their own bullpup rifle.

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2006-05-27 19:54

i suppose...
it could make its way into PR, but first, we need a render!

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-05-27 20:40

looks like a P90 and AUG hybrid.

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2006-05-27 20:54

it could go to the MEC Spec ops!
because they always have the latest gear (i think)
but its a gd idea

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-05-27 23:06

it could go to the MEC Spec ops!
because they always have the latest gear (i think)
but its a gd idea

Its not a good idea

Neuromante · Post by **Neuromante** » 2006-05-27 23:53

Uhm... Perhaps we could let it be a pickup kit on the MEC side on some map, justifying it as "captured from enemy forces". It's a lot cool, it would be a very nice addition to the mod.