Increase Sniper Rifle Accuracy

Szarko · Post by **Szarko** » 2006-06-04 20:11

Sounds almost french.

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-06-04 20:31

It's not called 'Project Present' last I checked. And like I said, the MEC aren't real so it's unfair to judge the Dragunov just because the Russians build it with a 4x scope. And like I said, the SUSATs have 4x zoom and if we give the Dragunov a 4x scope then even the MEC snipers don't stand a chance against the UK.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 20:36

MEC snipers don't stand a chance against the UK.

WELCOME TO REALITY!

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-06-04 20:44

lol so true crawely. The issue once again is gameplay balance.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 20:47

lol so true crawely. The issue once again is gameplay balance.

It's really not that hard, to keep a balance, just need to be creative, but then again, they shouldn't be balanced. This is project reality.

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-06-04 20:47

Last I checked, this was a modification (in other words, a change) designed to make a game (in other words, something that's meant to be fun, fair and enjoyable for all) more realistic (in other words, something true to real life). Yes, although the Russians make the SVD with the 4x scope a standard, that doesn't mean the MEC (who don't exist) get theirs from the same supplier. Believe it or not Crawley, it is perfectly possible that this ficticious organisation kindly asked the ficticious guys making the guns for them to pop on a different scope.

And besides, last time I checked REALITY the MEC snipers never had a problem against the UK, mainly because they're not REAL.

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-06-04 20:48

/\lol

But I agree that Sniper accuracy should definatley increase. It seems fair that the Bolt action rifles (M24 & L96) have very little deviance and the Semi Autos (SVD & Type 88 ) have a bit more. This is realistic and gives the GAME balance as the rifles with lower accuracy have a higher ROF.

About the 'settle time'- In PRMM now, do you need to have the scope still for it to settle or will potential accuracy still increase if the scope is moving a bit, like if you are following a running enemy in your sights, will it make a difference if you shoot him straight off or follow him for a few seconds?
Id be greatful if someone could answer this correctly. Regardless all future PR release should retain the settle time to make the class authentic.

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-06-04 20:53

I believe the wait time occurs between when you draw your weapon or chamber a new round and when you fire. I definitely know it's possible to chase a running target with your crosshair, otherwise I'd never have got any sniper kills and now would anybody else.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 20:55

in other words, something that's meant to be fun, fair and enjoyable for all

If thats what you want you should play vanilla.

Believe it or not Crawley, it is perfectly possible that this ficticious organisation kindly asked the ficticious guys making the guns for them to pop on a different scope.

Get your head out of your *** please

And besides, last time I checked REALITY the MEC snipers never had a problem against the UK, mainly because they're not REAL.

omg you got me muhammid jihad i had no clue MEC didnt exsist im crushed, stfu man. My goal is to make the game balanced while keeping it as real as possible.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 20:56

SVD, should be able to pop off 7-8 rounds minute MAX

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-06-04 21:12

Accuratley?

Braddock096 · Post by **Braddock096** » 2006-06-04 21:12

Crawley, for heavens sake, can you not make a SINGLE POST without abusing the prior posters?

Use the forums for reasoned debate, and not the abuse that you seem to be constantly spouting.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 21:17

its called being provoked. It's not too simple to keep things in terms of reality, but it seems that it isnt the goal of some users. It aggrivates the hell out of me. And it wasnt abuse... not even close.

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-06-04 21:20

Apparently Crawley dislikes the thought of being wrong.

Crawley wrote:My goal is to make the game balanced while keeping it as real as possible.

So, you're trying to do both, but when it comes to gameplay being severely affected by practically removing the MEC's sniper because they will have no decent magnification, you're not interested in balance? Keeping the SVD's current magnification settings is just too much, because of course the MEC are insurgents and of course everyone should be able to kill insurgents and that's reality and of course this mod is about reality, not about fun. I think everyone on the mod team will disagree with your statement about the mod not being about fun. It's only a game Crawley, and as much as the team modify this game, it's always going to be a game.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 21:26

but when it comes to gameplay being severely affected by practically removing the MEC's sniper because they will have no decent magnification

4x is perfectly decent

because of course the MEC are insurgents and of course everyone should be able to kill insurgents and that's reality and of course this mod is about reality, not about fun.

Putting words in my mouth, freakin typical

I think everyone on the mod team will disagree with your statement about the mod not being about fun.

Never said that, if i did prove me wrong.

It's only a game Crawley

Awesome i thought it was RL thanks for clarifying that

Apparently Crawley dislikes the thought of being wrong.

Ashame that im right ehh

Look if you want 8x thats fine, but its not realistic.

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-06-04 21:32

Crawley wrote:
in other words, something that's meant to be fun, fair and enjoyable for all

If thats what you want you should play vanilla.

I said the mod was 'fun, fair and enjoyable for all', you informed me to play Vanilla if I wanted that. Is that not saying the mod can't fulfill my wishes of that?

Crawley wrote:
MEC snipers don't stand a chance against the UK.
WELCOME TO REALITY!

Is it me, or is that suggesting that in real life, the middle eastern coalition snipers don't stand a chance against the UK? Seeing as the closest we got to the MEC against the UK in real life are the insurgents, that, to me, would seem to be what you meant.

I'm too tired to argue. Dumbing down the scopes to 4x because that's how the Russians do it is dumb to put it plainly. The UK assault rifle will have 4x scope a standard, let's not crush gameplay by destroying the sniper's chances of fighting them.

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-06-04 21:50

Russians do it is dumb to put it plainly.

Ok everywhere that you can find an SVD you will see that they usually either use a 2.5x scope or 4x scope, not just Russia. 4x is the most common i have seen throughout middle eastern countries, but 2.5x is found frequently too.

UK in real life are the insurgents

Are you saying that all insurgents are bad fighters?

I said the mod was 'fun, fair and enjoyable for all', you informed me to play Vanilla if I wanted that. Is that not saying the mod can't fulfill my wishes of that?

Well yes PR can... but reality isnt fair... sorry

Braddock096 · Post by **Braddock096** » 2006-06-04 22:12

Crawley wrote:Well yes PR can... but reality isnt fair... sorry

You're not wrong there, but if it wasn't fair then nobody would play on the less able side. Hence balance.

0mikr0n · Post by **0mikr0n** » 2006-06-04 22:18

Malik wrote: Is it me, or is that suggesting that in real life, the middle eastern coalition snipers don't stand a chance against the UK?

Well, technically, he's right... if you put one MEC sniper in the middle of a London street with a sniper rifle, he's not getting out of that city alive. LOL.

But seriously, this is turning into a flame war. Maybe you guys should settle this under PMs?

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-06-04 22:22

yes this is turning into a flame war get it back on topic.