servers playing same maps

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Jigsaw
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Please try to avoid resurrecting old threads with a suggestion (and a re-suggestion at that).

Snow maps have been suggested numerous times, and would be a huge amount of work given that not only would you need to create the map including custom statics and terrain, but you would also need to re-skin all of the soldier models, kits and vehicles.
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ankyle62
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Post by ankyle62 »

im so sick muttrah. so many good maps out there that get little play time.
Bringerof_D
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Post by Bringerof_D »

jungle maps just arn't popular, i love them though. i love the stealthy hikes through thick brush moving between patches of trees in the shadows and ambushing enemies in the gullies. those moments are full of pure win.

urban maps i guess are more popular because most gamers like the ZOMG 1337 CQB fights, where as the small amount of players who are ACTUAL realism enthusiasts like the forest. i mean think about it, if anyone ever mentions "army" the first thought that pops up is forest or trees, or jungle. this proves that the Majority of the online gaming community prefers Spec ops and SWAT style play over army or actual military, the only aspects of military style play they like is higher fire power.
Scared_420
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Post by Scared_420 »

today i was playing on crazy *** ufear server, i joined in about halfway and it was full with about 20 idlers on each team,, at end of round they played it again and everyone left,, they then put on 7gates and it got filled up immedaitely and they kicked all the idlers too,,, server admins take note,, muttrah is overplayed and people like to play maps they dont play often
Sprats
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Post by Sprats »

cant find any server that would play kozelsk, asault on mestia or foolz road a lot, just few times a week. sad, they are the best maps :(
Nitneuc
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Post by Nitneuc »

I also can't believe most servers play Kyongan ni (or whatever it is) and Sunset which are totally outdated maps (no offense to the mappers, they used to be cool in 0.5 but nowadays they just look and play ****) while Kozelsk is pretty much never played. I mean, I'm playing at least 6-10 hours every week on various EU servers and only had a single round of Kozelsk on 0.874 :shock: .
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USMC_Grunt wrote:I need variety. In my many years of gaming, I have never played on a server that only uses one map. I even shy away from servers who only use a couple of maps.
My dream would be easily and quickly editable maps, with lots of maps and few repetition, so that the team with the best approach on uncharted ground wins, rather than the one who knows the map best.
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Post by >para< »

so servers guilty cuz they dont play kufrah,seven gates, 'ni, mestia ect. and they will be removed in 0.9 ?!
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galeknight1 wrote:my guess is that it would be the gameplay... maps like Kozelsk is a mapping masterpiece but I guess some people don't find it as fun to play as certain other maps.
TBH, Kozelsk and other foresty maps are places for PR diehards - I'd rather fly on Kashan or Qinling. Muttrah, choppering without lasers gets old fast. I may be called a noob for this, and if so I am - but, I do make sure I can fly first, and that makes me a skilled noob.
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Ghost_1ll1
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Post by Ghost_1ll1 »

WARNING, this may be somewhat of a rant.

Not everyone can get a vehicle on vehicle maps.

Its not fun to get r4p3d by "1337" vehicles while on foot / driving a HMVEE.

Its not fun to run 2000m to get shot by a sniper/tank/chopper/jet just because your APC squad is looking for rifleman to shoot w/ their 1337 APC skills.

Most people whether they even like it or not, are going to have to be infantry or the the guy in a pilot uniform standing on the runway. I dont see 24 Bradly, 16 Tanks, 16 Cobra, and 8 Jets per team on these servers.

those are just a few reasons i think they(vehicle maps) arent popular, you have the right to disagree.

I like infantry therefore I dislike Kashan, Qinling, and any other giant map. You may say o but giant map is reality, but heres the thing, giant army is reality too, but we cant make Qinling the size of Iraq w/ 125,000 per side. You can have all the vehicles you want, but wars arent won from vehicles alone. In fact, you win wars based on the ability of your infantry and the speed at which they were deployed. (Flag system simulates this beautifully BTW)

And the only thing that I really dislike about most people that play vehicles exclusively, save for Huey and Blackhawk pilots, is that Tanks can't have troops ride on them and APC's rarely transport troops. I'm excluding Jets & attChoppers for obvious reasons. Yes, 'Hey! I need a ride!"

Tanks not really their fault for being unable to xport, but dont expect me to force one of my men to drive a repair truck to you when you werent supporting us in the first place. And no, kills 1500m away from my pos is not supporting the team. Try killing that nme APC or Tank, since we get so few HATs.

That would be weird, an 'Armored Personell Carrier' actually 'Carrying Personell in Armor'. O wait, thats what they were made for :P

And yes, I know, your *insert pilot / crewman squad of choice* is the exception to all this. Im not trying to produce a string of those posts.

But otherwise, wow, this is one hell of a shooter is it not? You gotta love it.
Tholozor
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Post by Tholozor »

If anyone is looking for a server that has a good map rotation with plenty variety of maps (especially Russian/Chech), join the Virginia Mixed server (not the =HoG= server). ]TAR[ (formerly =RRF=) runs the server, and it's a well-admined server (I would know, I've got admin there). No squads before 2:00, strict asset rules, and admins with enough drive to weed out unfair players by switching to the other team to find out who they are.

The daily map rotation always starts on Muttrah, but that's only to fill the server. Once the server hits around 40 people an admin moves the rotation along. Every weekend ]TAR[ has a theme day, where they'll play big-*** maps, Insurgency, Russian/Chech Day, etc.

Default map rotation is:
- Muttrah City
- Ejod Desert
- Assault on Mestia
- Asad Khal
- Fallujah West
- Sunset City
- Operation Ghost Train

However usually during the day admins will manually switch to other maps like Fool's Road, Ramiel, Karbala, Korengal, and Archer depending on everyone's mood.
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Post by 00SoldierofFortune00 »

I wish more servers would start playing Kozelsk as I feel that is probably the most underrated map in the game. It has so many good spots to fight over too, especially the tunnel and the bridge area allows for long range woodland combat.

The only maps I really have a problem with are Kashan and Qinling for the obvious reasons. They play the same every time with Kashan probably being the worst. If you are like me and only want to do infantry work, you are screwed in Kashan since it has absolutely no cover. And the fighting that stems around the bunkers is stale. And if you go to North of South Village to cap, you can almost guranteed to be leveled with either a tank, APC, air asset, or JDAM.

I am also tired of the insurgency maps. Insurgency forces you to attack and the US side drains tickets like crazy, so its hard to have a good relaxed game. At least with an AAS3 map, you can sit back and defend for a while or take your time on approaches. I love insurgency every once in a while, but 24/7 wears things out.
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SomebodySomeone
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No variety is really boring, and the servers that have all maps in rotation are usually empty when I log in to play.
chuckMFd
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Post by chuckMFd »

I wish there was a l337 24/7 insurgency&russian maps only server!!! Would be epic until .9
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WilsonPL
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Russian Maps Only server - do want.
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sniperrocks
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Post by sniperrocks »

Yeah it's true
I always hear the same names, others like Qinling, I just heard today on this thread!
Probably a trend like in Vanilla Bf2 where city maps are more popular...
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Post by rampo »

sniperrocks wrote:Yeah it's true
I always hear the same names, others like Qinling, I just heard today on this thread!
Probably a trend like in Vanilla Bf2 where city maps are more popular...
Iv'e never seen the beauty in city-maps... But muttrah is still nice whit the choppers and stuff
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rampo93(FIN) wrote:Iv'e never seen the beauty in city-maps... But muttrah is still nice whit the choppers and stuff
Probably it's the action, not sure. I know Karkand is known for frags (and nade spam)
In some forest maps, I end up ambushed more than I have fun... but maybe that's just me xD
SomebodySomeone
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rampo93(FIN) wrote:Iv'e never seen the beauty in city-maps... But muttrah is still nice whit the choppers and stuff
Urban warfare ftw.
AdrwIvrsn
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Post by AdrwIvrsn »

I skipped a few pages, so I'm probably going to be a month out-of-date with this post.

I have a feeling that the reason forest maps are unpopular is because they are too large, and stuff like cliffs makes transportation around the map difficult, making the map size feel even worse. There may also be a reason that unskilled players might feel they will get raped in the forest (which is clearly understandable), and they chicken out.

I really feel bad about this, because forest maps are my favorite because of being able to utilize camouflage, surprise flanking maneuvers, and the maps can look beautiful as opposed to sand and more sand.
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