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I cant say I feel that the servers are less populated these days. If anything I would say there is more people playing now. You clan people need to chill and understand that if every clan has its own server, there is and never will be enough players to fill them all.

I will like to point out another fact for the dropping number of PR players.

You got to face the fact that the BF2 engine is getting very old by now. There are alot of other games on the marked now that have much better graphics and possibilities. No you can not get around the fact that PR still is one of, if not THE only game with a high rate of teamwork and "realism" but I think people are getting tired of the old BF2 engine.
Yes I know that mods like counterstrike survived their old graphics but those mods didn't need to develope new things for a long time that required stuff that the engine couldn't handle. PR still needs alot of new improvements to reach the goal where PR players really want it to be. Improvements that the B2 engine simple can't handle.
If you think about it Counterstrike really had all what it needed from the old engine to begin with. Just look at Cs: Source. It's exactly the same but with better graphics and some people still plays Cs 1.5.

Yes I think there is a dropping interest of PR players but I don't think they are dropping the game completly. They are out there playing new and interesting games that just came on the marked but when they get tired of them you know that the game they fall back on is PR because it's still the game that has the best teamwork gameplay despite the boring graphics
Other guys are might being busy taking their exams or working on these busy winter days ... But they will be back.... ohh yes they will be back...

I feel the fact that people aren't as attracted anymore is because of the content getting older and older. I got bored of CoD4 in a week cause I got bored of all the weapons. I'll be playing lots more for sure with the new content in 0.9.

It sure seems like less people playing at night

You got to face the fact that the BF2 engine is getting very old by now. There are alot of other games on the marked now that have much better graphics and possibilities. No you can not get around the fact that PR still is one of, if not THE only game with a high rate of teamwork and "realism" but I think people are getting tired of the old BF2 engine.

I do not tire of the BF2 engine considering the alternatives, ArmA2 etc imo were disappointment.s

For me disappointments and losing interest doesn't come from old game engine or it's flaws. Hell - I played action quake 2 for over ten years actively. For long it was the only game that I had interest to play because of the gameplay and style. I think the same goes for PR as well. It's so unique on the market at the moment.

But to be honest. Yesterday I just lost my interest in PR. I know I will play it again in few days, but this is something that has happened to me lately too often. My reason to lose my interest over PR is the fact that I cannot trust my weapon nor aim. I don't want to flame this issue but this is truly how I feel about it.

Oh, in case you want to know what happened: I had normal rifleman or so in Kashan. I was able to stealth ninja myself behind a small squad of enemies building up a firebase locaded not so far in west from the north and south bunkers. so I chose my position carefully and went to prone on top of a small hill giving me good view over the construction, distance was about 20-30m.

I counted two guys building and one which just spawned. This was about to be a massacre. Steadied my breathing and counted seconds until hit 7 to be sure about the aim and took the shot. A shot that missed the target by meter hitting crosshair in upper left corner. I thought to myself that "yeah ok, these tracers tend to go randomly where ever, no worries". So I waited few seconds for my second try.

This time targets started to move about and look for me. I choose to aim for the one which was just crawling. Shot - missed, changed weapon into grenade while the proned dude stood up and started to run towards me. Now I was seen and this runner just went back to prone and started to shoot vigorously. Of course I thought there's no way he could hit me because of the deviation and not taking time to aim properly and besides I had good cover behind the small dune. I was wrong.

FFFUUUUU

Hardcore servers are full at all times. its hard enough for members to get in. Seriously, i had to wait 15 min to get in my own clan server, lol. We dont hold reserved slots, and i never ask to kick a player aside from an idler for myself, and even then i do it once in a while.

Its true, i rmbr seeing more servers full, but we still have a very strong community. Like its been said before, wait for the 0.9 to come out, ul c. I wont get in the server for 30 min then...

McCree wrote:For me disappointments and losing interest doesn't come from old game engine or it's flaws. Hell - I played action quake 2 for over ten years actively. For long it was the only game that I had interest to play because of the gameplay and style. I think the same goes for PR as well. It's so unique on the market at the moment.

But to be honest. Yesterday I just lost my interest in PR. I know I will play it again in few days, but this is something that has happened to me lately too often. My reason to lose my interest over PR is the fact that I cannot trust my weapon nor aim. I don't want to flame this issue but this is truly how I feel about it.

Oh, in case you want to know what happened: I had normal rifleman or so in Kashan. I was able to stealth ninja myself behind a small squad of enemies building up a firebase locaded not so far in west from the north and south bunkers. so I chose my position carefully and went to prone on top of a small hill giving me good view over the construction, distance was about 20-30m.

I counted two guys building and one which just spawned. This was about to be a massacre. Steadied my breathing and counted seconds until hit 7 to be sure about the aim and took the shot. A shot that missed the target by meter hitting crosshair in upper left corner. I thought to myself that "yeah ok, these tracers tend to go randomly where ever, no worries". So I waited few seconds for my second try.

This time targets started to move about and look for me. I choose to aim for the one which was just crawling. Shot - missed, changed weapon into grenade while the proned dude stood up and started to run towards me. Now I was seen and this runner just went back to prone and started to shoot vigorously. Of course I thought there's no way he could hit me because of the deviation and not taking time to aim properly and besides I had good cover behind the small dune. I was wrong.

FFFUUUUU

For me deviation is still an issue, too. From time to time the trajectory "calculation" is just as ridiculous as it gets.

biggest problem is that TG only has one server.

server admins, copy TG. Seriously, if you want a quality server that is popular just look at them. hire some admins and get some good regulars.

There are more servers out there that offer great teamwork as well .

Dude it nearly christmas lot of people on holiday's or visiting family,

SO don't expect to see huge numbers of people.

PR dead? I don't think so. Its 3:30 am cst in the U.S. and the HARDCORE INSURGENCY+2 PR.87 =]H[= is full at this time on Operation Archer. Woops, just took another look, sorry, 3 players just dropped out, but 1 is joining.

cant be dieing theres allways a few full severs that are good to play on.

privatedoodles wrote:cant be dieing theres allways a few full severs that are good to play on.

Yeah there is still alot of servers, but simply not as many as there used to be.

0.9 won't change that, people have to stop using it as the knight in shining armor, although there are a few new factions and shiny things, the gameplay is still there and the direction that the devs are taking it in, which in my opinion (and alot of others as well) is incredibly stupid is still the main catalyst which is causing alot of familiar faces to leave or simply quit out of frustration, boredom, or lack of interest.

Or as with most cases a combination of them.

last night there was about 6 servers with 64 people, is PR losing interest? no.

>this thread

Its like this at this time of year for every game that has been out a while. Every major publisher releases all their main money making titles in the last quarter of the year, in order to hit the Christmas stockings.

But look what happens ... OFP: DR released ... sudden glutch of players ... and then ... no one is playing it. But PR ... well PR continues. People come and go ... thats to be expected ... but considering we are still here after many many years ... are we worried ? Hell no !

I agree with Rudd...too many empty servers save your cash clans and affiliate.

I think lots of experienced players are taking a break, boredom/other games (EVE/OFP/ARMA).

The big problems with PRT hasn't helped.

The betas on average IMHO hasn't helped, but thats a longer term development.

Ignoring TG it does seem alot harder to 'stumble' on a squad that has TW, when pubbing I feel delighted to find three SM's who talk.

I would of expected to find more players on average in winter for obvious reasons.

I play virtually every night, but recently watching a film has become more appealing, as a pubber, a good game is increasingly rare.

I am amazed in general with how fickle lots of the MP Online community is: new things appear be it a update, new game or a new feature like mumble, they are adopted quickly, raved about then dropped as quickly. This is no critisism just an observation of this world from A MP online newbie.

I am sure this will translate to alot of people returning to PR when 0.9 arrives, at the very least to try out the new maps/factions and toys.

After watching this world I am inclined to think the future of MP online gaming will be through monthly subscriptions and frequent updates (like Eve for example), the idea of paying $60 for a game that many people would get bored of in a few months is a dieing concept. Just i hope Steam is a little more reliable by then....

This would mean however less younger players (inability to pay monthly) which ofc has its good and bad sides.

In EVE for example there must be far less younger players than VBF which costs now only two weeks EVE subscription!

It's up to us a bit when pubbing to encourage TW/VOIP/Mumble, I have noticed when i talk alot (most of the time - sorry), others seem far more inclined to participate and we have a better battle.

I bet there were similar discussions before 0.85 was released last January.

Despite being bored with most of the current maps, I'm fine with the amount of players and the beta changes.

Based on PR's history it's natural to assume 0.9 will bring back a lot of players (at least temporarily), even if it doesn't the rest of us will just have fun without them.

dtacs wrote:Yeah there is still alot of servers, but simply not as many as there used to be.

0.9 won't change that, people have to stop using it as the knight in shining armor, although there are a few new factions and shiny things, the gameplay is still there and the direction that the devs are taking it in, which in my opinion (and alot of others as well) is incredibly stupid is still the main catalyst which is causing alot of familiar faces to leave or simply quit out of frustration, boredom, or lack of interest.

Or as with most cases a combination of them.

This post is pretty much copied and posted with every release. .5 saw it, .6 saw it, .7 saw it... And yet with every release we seem to bounce back up to high numbers, and then maintain a good deal that we draw in, plus bring back a good amount of those who "lost interest between releases"

It's ALWAYS been like this at the tail end of a release and just before another release. Things get dry, some people move on, some wait for the net release, and some just keep on playing. But come release, you'll see a huge spike in players, then itll settle down a bit, then about 6-8 months from release someone will probably make the same post you just did